Making $100 at a Casino, professional gambler discussion

[GotSmart]

A fool and his money are soon partying at the casino. 

Just my humble opinion, but the members of this forum would rather double their $100 by folding it back into their pocket. 

A $500 round of $5 bets at a casino is not in the cards for 99% of the regular membership. 

The bright lights of a southwest sunset and the embers of a fire give me hope for the future. It will go on no matter what size my bank roll is.

 

[gizmotron]

My primary interest is in traveling and seeing the sights while I can. I'm interested in people and their stories. My story is I came to a place and offered a way to make money while travelling and living free of the mortgage / rent tyranny obligation. I know that most here don't want this. But a few do. Are you suggesting that I drop it? Do you want anyone that might be interested in this to feel that speaking up will exclude them from the majority's favor? Is there a way to be a Nomad already? Conformity gets to be a tired social construct. You can't escape it.

 

[gizmotron]

The moderator should remove this too. Thanks.

So you know human nature? When it's too late, and that is my total goal in posting the Reading Randomness thread at a premier gambling forum.

This is my signature there among some of the most informed gamblers in the world:

"My edge is a large enough number of people doing this and producing win to loss results that are demonstrably beyond the possibility of inaccuracy."

What you can't figure out is why I see people looking for money, some of them dispirit in some cases.  My altruism is to feel sorry for the poor victims in the lives of Nomad-ville and throw them a worthless bone just so that I can laugh at them and feel smug. You are not intelligent.

There, that should get this thrown out. I'm not falling for this crud anymore. You have been reported.

 

[gizmotron]

You can't avoid the mathZombies. They know more than common sense and scientific peer reviewed validation can tell. I took Reading Randomness to real gamblers very active in the search for the Holy Grail of gambling in order to seek real "peer reviewed" validation. That was almost two and one half years ago. I clearly made a huge mistake in offering it to the great unwashed of people seeking freedom from the self imposed limitations and restrictions placed on themselves by themselves. The great hippy movement of the 60's failed because those people wanted a "trip free life" at the expense of others. Nomads are only asking to be left alone in a world that needs them as captives to a purchase things, tax, and regulate by forced mandate economical system. There should be a place in every community for people that want to live in their vehicles. But there won't be until those that rule the world have their perspectives changed.

I have been telling the mathBoyz, mathNazis, and mathZombies that they are wrong since 2006. They have been lying to the general public for decades. This is a lie: "The casino always wins so why even try." Here is another lie: "The odds are not in your favor so why even try?"

What I have been telling them is that a person can lose the number of bets placed that basic statistical distribution says that they should lose and still walk away profitable in the long run. The casinos can't protect themselves from coincidental good luck. All it takes is a person smart enough to deliberately target good luck using an established construct of characteristics, self awareness, and perfected skills as their only tools of the trade.

 

[gizmotron]

I'm not willing to sit here and be insulted by a person that is ignorant of what exactly is being offered for free. Not just free but to actually pay a small handful of people that have proven to me that they earned the opportunity at no expense to themselves. I set out to be a good Samaritan and instead discovered "Cast not your pearls before swine." I would never assume that 99% of people in this community are more interested in limiting themselves if it were possible to have the most fun that there is and to get paid for it too. I'm showing how to just use brain power to get money. If you want people to get that beet harvesting job then go ahead, encourage them.

My goal is to wreck all that is known about gambling. In that effort it will also wreck all that is assumed as established truth in the world of statistical beliefs. It is that or I'm just some kind of Don Quixote tilting at windmills. If the basic premise here is to reject that effort then people here should have a choice to decide for themselves. Is it really necessary to have skeptics act as commanders of the universe?

You are correct that the reputation here is open to scrutiny. I can't wait for it to be too late. It will be like the time that know-it-all sailors stood at the dock as three small ships sailed away to the west and told those departing that they were all going to sail off the edge of the world.

 

[gizmotron]

That's what is missing here. I can be your resident kook that you tolerate in your effort to be seen as inclusive.

 

[RoamerRV428]

while I am not a gambler and won't ever be cause it just ain't me.....you put what works for you with life on the road under the correct category.....so those interested can read and learn and those not interested shouldn't bother posting one post on it. About earning money on the road thru some gambling efforts, I can see some interested in it and nothing wrong with that. It could float someone's boat.

so do you. sounds good to me. Share what you do which someone might be interested in, but like me, I follow your thread but have 0 interest in it but I still allow you that freedom to chat it up with those that have interest and you did put it in the right category to be discussed so......

no one should be running you off the site in my mind on it all.

but that is just my personal opinion on it all others will vary alot on it I am sure.

 

[gizmotron]

Thanks RoamerRV428,, ...that zings, roger, wilco. It sounds like contacting the tower.

Here is what is happening in the real world of gambling experts. They know about Reading Randomness and it is clear that they resisted my teaching it. It took more than ten years for them to give up on the idea that using a trend or a pattern was not a claim of foretelling the future. They openly, in fiery discussions, wanted to win the argument that using a trend or a pattern to win by was a claim of prediction. It was like their brains had already decided what was what. I defeated them with a simple case in logic. "Math will never tell you when a win streak will start, how long it will last, and when it will end." They had magical beliefs in math. Math says that you must lose. I have been waging a war with professional gamblers over the math that they believe in. Back in 1993, after an eye opening experience on a Roulette table, I set out to discover how to exploit good luck and it's real cause; coincidence. Randomness has moments when the casino is completely defenseless. All the magical beliefs of mathematics can't mitigate that. Math does not have magical powers to defeat you. You, a human being, can outmaneuver coincidence by understanding randomness. Sometimes randomness acts like it's telling you to what comes next. But it actually is not doing that. It just looks like it does.  It does so by verifying itself with actual real time data as you go along and look at it. Is it hard? Yes. Is it amazing and profitable? For the time being it is.  They don't know. The casino bosses don't believe in it. They believe that the odds are in their favor.

It took me years to figure all this out. Once you see it as true it becomes impossible for it to continue to go unseen.

 

[gizmotron]

I've actually done a wonderful thing. I presented a way to make money that nobody cares about.

So be it.  I did discover that all my embedded YouTube videos were somehow blocked. So be that too.  This forum software has an option to bring the video right into the page like a picture does. And that worked here for a while. But now all those videos are gone. You can still see the space where they belonged so the HTML style sheet is still allocating the embedded link but not displaying it. I doubt that this is a software glitch. It could be from YouTube's side of controlling things or it could be from settings implemented by mods here. That's OK. Someone helpful here showed me how to just include a link and people can look at videos that way.

So here is my first video that I created regarding how I use my software to practice Reading Randomness with. It's a great example of why I should not become a YouTube video producer. Enjoy at your own risk:

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]If you put this on full screen then you can see it better.[/font]

 

[gizmotron]

I didn't want to start another thread on this topic as this one has shown very little interest here. I get it that people that have no gambling experience would probably have no interest in seeking a new or re-attempted experience at it. I just don't know.

So I'm wondering if any would be willing to explain why they are passing on it. Maybe some of you can recall hearing stories of buying stocks before they went up in value like Xerox, Apple, Microsoft, IBM, etc... I consider the skills presented in Reading Randomness and how it relates to trading stocks as a once in a lifetime opportunity. So I get it that it sounds too good to be true. I have been at this for more than 27 years and only came across the rigid set of suggestions in the past 3.5 years. Anyway I went back to read what I wrote at first in the instructional thread. It's not that bad. People, many of them, have learned or are learning the skills.

So if people share then fine. Here is why I'm asking. Somebody is visiting the teaching thread, like 500 visits per day. Who are these people? That traffic picked up from this thread here. It's been about five to six weeks and it's up over 16,000 views. I asked at the teaching thread and I got this answer from my question:

gizmotron: "What I wonder is who might be using it, studying the skills, proving to themselves that they can do this?"

responder: "I would say some of the silent majority, plus a few of your naysayers from over the years, but I would think their egos would prevent them from admitting as such, f*k[sic] hypocrisy lol, mho.

I would like to hope that new members or casual readers are accessing your thread due to the thread references on other threads. Hopefully they have pen and pad at hand to take notes as can be confusing sometimes, but I’m not the sharpest tool in the box yet I was able to figure out how, when and why by rehashing my notes. Some genuine lightbulb moments also I might add.

So readers stick with it , rehash the pages as needed it’s worth your while. Better still sign in / sign up and post not with question but just a thank you. You have to do your own homework on this thread and you will appreciate yourself just that much more by doing it yourself. Cheers
Thanks gizmo"

 

[gizmotron]

Since the Reading Randomness thread is a dead subject here I will do to it what I have done in the past before I wrote it 2.5 years ago. Since 2006 when I first started talking about it I would also sabotage it just to keep the mathBoyz thinking they have always been right. I do things like play exactly 50 straight sessions in a row, win every one of them and then intentionally self destruct on the 51st session. I did that three times in a row over the course of a few months. It went right over their heads.

And now from ground zero for mathZombies central, The Wizard of Vegas forum comes this from a year ago:

@ lilredrooster; "the link is to a poster - screen name Gizmotron - from another forum who claims he can beat randomness - this guy has been claiming this stuff for years the title of his thread is "Reading Randomness"

it's nonsense of course - incomprehensible babbling scribbles - he has surely written over the equivalent of 100 typed pages on this thread

I posted it just for curiosity's sake

hundreds of gamblers - actually more likely thousands - across the web have claimed they can beat negative expectancy games with bet selection and/or betting progressions - varying the size of the bet either to recover losses or to parlay wins

not a single one has ever been able to offer proof that they could do it or that it could be done

if anybody ever did do it - it could not be kept secret

it would be one of the biggest news stories of the century"

 

[gizmotron]

... and if it was one of the biggest news stories of the century then most people here missed it. The author attempted to bottle feed anyone struggling with it and not a singled person came forward with a single question. This has only been offered once before on the internet. This is actually the second time I attempted to offer personal help to a group. I'm done with that. There is only one thing that will motivate people and that will be when it is too late, they will know that they had it in their hands while it was not too late.

So I'm some kind of crackpot that just wants to waste other people's time and hopefully money. What do they say? "Don't go away mad, just go away."

It's fascinating to me. The mathZombies, the happily contented Nomads, and the Young American Showcase forum have all passed on this. Still, the original teaching thread is just about to go over 300,000 views. I wonder who these people are? I'm doing something wrong. When Ed Thorpe wrote 'Beat the Dealer' the casinos went nuts. The entire gambling world went nuts.

 

[RoamerRV428]

Math genius thru the ages is fascinating as in 'how people SEE numbers' and how they calculate them into a 'real deal life formula' that has extra sense to them.

I am not one of them

I think some are born with 'an extra math gene' of some kind....just look at our math genius thru the ages!! They see 'life in numbers' literally and that is not, I believe, the masses of humans can even comprehend.

So yea if one is a math whiz and 'goes that way' in their brain I support them going for 'all the math numbers' and calcs they can do to achieve success in fields of science, gambling even, physics and so much more

but again, most are never there and won't ever be, most won't even follow this thread with any interest cause 'their math gene' ain't there LOL

 

[gizmotron]

If people that have studied gambling for years can't grasp things then how could a person disinterested in gambling ever understand it?

 

[gizmotron]

but again, most are never there and won't ever be, most won't even follow this thread with any interest cause 'their math gene' ain't there LOL

I know. 99.9% of those that bring money to a casino, for entertainment value, have no clue that they went there with a plan to lose it.

Most of those that do go in play the slots. They would be just as good at dumping greenbacks into a blender and making confetti.

Reading Randomness is about seeing figures of ships in cloud formations, "apophenia." 

Math oriented SpandexBoyz types say that figure formations won't predict the future. And they are right. That pleases them and their brains go off to some self serving satisfaction. 

They miss everything being used to an advantage when they do that. You use the figure formation when it acts like it's predicting the future and you don't use it when it does not act like it is predicting the future. It's a clear distinction. 

It does not take a math brain's gene. It takes an artist's gene. It takes  a musician's gene. That's why the mathZombies can't see it.

Thanks for commenting. I won't be trying to assume that Nomads are dummies. It's just the opposite I think. They tend to be people that explore the unknown.

 

[RoamerRV428]

well gambling is a hobby or obsession for many who ain't got no math extra gene that can support them even being there LOL

but like ya said, entertainment with a small chance of hitting it big.....ohh the thrill...yes money to blow while ya have fun with a small hope of walking out a gazillionaire....HA

Well you said artist's gene and to me that varies in that most artist types are more flighty, not 'centered on structure' and rows of numbers as a strict schedule or device' to live your life and control your thoughts. More open minded with freedom to flip around more so I see 'those math orientated people' who just SEE numbers as 'a real life' vision and comprehend what others don't as more of a gambler but also if one sees life in math like this, they might go more about worrying about black holes in space or figuring out physics before they put all their cards into the gambling scene

Nomads ain't dummies ever....but we got math focus and gambling hobby and alot won't go there at all. Most of us don't wanna be seated in a crowded casino when we want on the road, in nature, near a stream and ALONE alot of the time so....nomads do have a kinda personality to fit us and more are not gamblers vs. more of another type of life focus ya know.

just chat on it all, I find this fun to chat it out!

 

[gizmotron]

just chat on it all, I find this fun to chat it out!

I do to. I would never have this experience at the gambling forums. Those people are too invested in finding the Holy Grail of gambling. And they blaze away on each other like it's a shooting gallery. In fact I love taking pot shots myself.

Let me try to relate this as an experience and not a how to do it kind of thing.

I plan ahead knowing I'm going to take $50 to $100 from my next casino.  I look at the weather and how hot or cold it might be in their RV free parking zone. Washington & Nevada have no taxes on gambling winnings. So I have that to consider too. But, I really like the excellent chefs. All casinos have several different choices on meals to eat. They all have player cards where you rack up points and get free stuff. Well I get free stuff because I'm attracted by my winnings and not by some lame compensation that falls far short. What idiots. People drop $500 to get a free room & a meal.

I know that randomness will align up so that I can take a few wins in a small section of any longer lasting session. So I bet the minimum on a brainless red or black position until I do see that alignment that I'm waiting for. Then I strike. I get my $50 or $100 and I'm done. I go off searching for a great meal and often times a comedian or a rock band. I can have a few drinks and I don't have to worry about drunk driving. The van is walking distance away.

After that I plan to stay one more night if allowed and plan my next casino while spending that time. I get my gas money and a few meals and move on. I'm surrounded by clueless gamblers that are telling themselves that this is fun. So my pastime is to watch their faces when it hits that sequence of events that they are compelled to plow through. It's hilarious to watch unskilled players having fun. You should see how serious the faces of the pit bosses and the dealers are. It's like they are providing a solemn public service that needs to be held in highest regard. We are here to help you through your suffering. Just tell me where it hurts.

When I gamble, I know how to win. So I concentrate on watching others.

 

[RoamerRV428]

I get you and I feel your love of your hobby.

Not a darn thing wrong with that.

But you put this against nomads on a way to make some bucks out on the road....sure a few will see this but in the bitter end, you best hit up the bigger RV community who want (and can't find as much) the free parking and want the atmosphere and have the bucks for entertainment to gamble and enjoy the WHOLE of it all and might truly use casinos as their fun in life and wander to make that happy.

but our nomad community has usually a diff focus in that we are more secluded and less likely to truly 'be you' in a way if one reads all what and who nomads are all about, well some exceptions obvy, but in the end, your fun and obsession and wins you get and your fun to enjoy 'others who don't get it and lose bucks' is just YOUR thing cause the few times I gambled, yea I lose a few hundred but had the best damn time, ate great and just literally enjoyed the casino til I couldn't get the hell away from it fast enough and never go back any time soon....so my personal experience you are laughing at is MY personal fun time so....all subjective on that one LOL ohhh, to judge ya know but we get a high out of judging others of course!

best path is hit up an RV big motorhome site type travel and you hit up those who want and have monies to spend on entertainment and would more suit your posts, in that most of us here just ain't that group but hey, you mighta gave some nomad who has that wanna gamble thrill in them some info.

More power to you but you are kinda beating a dead horse on this website truly. So many bigger 'rv on the road' sites you really would find those who enjoy it more, cause 'RV'ers on the road do differ alot' from a nomad type personality for sure.

again just honest chat on it all

 

[gizmotron]

That's an interesting take on it. I don't want to hit up the bigger RV industry. It's their tough luck for not being here. I know this is a smaller community. If just one or two people from this community work to get this skill then I'm happy. The teaching thread is done. I don't have to work on it anymore. I just saw the 'Nomadlands' movie, discovered Bob Wells, realized that I moved into my car in Santa Fe and moved to the Northwest back in 95. I can relate. There was no Bob Wells and "how to" videos back then. I had since learned all about RVing and membership parks like Thousand Trails, Western Horizons, AOR, RPI, etc... I already have a bond to this community because of life's twists and turns.

It's OK if this thread withers on the vine.  I'm just curious about 300,000 visits to the teaching thread. Somebody is looking into it and they are all staying quiet about it. It's got to be human nature.

1.) They are seeing a value in it.

2.) The world has felt sorry for me and unilaterally has decided to not ridicule me after actually spending the time to find out if it works or not.

3.) There doesn't seem to be anyone clobbering the casinos for millions yet?

4.) I'm a real living Don Quixote. It's only been 2.5 years and most of that has been under Covid-19 quarantine.

 

[Cammalu]

I just don’t have the interest and my brain doesn’t work very well like when I was younger and it’s taxing for me to even try to figure it out. I also won’t go into a Casino anyway because I’m badly allergic to cigarette smoke.

I can’t speak for others at all about this but since you spent so much time and effort in it I think you deserve some feedback.