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romani10 · Nov 10, 2011

I gotta put in my .02, for what it's worth. Traveling and boondocking with my wife has brought us much closer together than when we had the stix and brix. The hectic schedule and temporary madness of the old life is pre-configured to bust up marriages in this society. When you get out here, you at least have a chance to reflect on life and the meaning of living. One thing both my wife and I seek, a quiet mind.

VanFan · Nov 11, 2011

romani10 said:
I gotta put in my .02, for what it's worth. Traveling and boondocking with my wife has brought us much closer together than when we had the stix and brix. The hectic schedule and temporary madness of the old life is pre-configured to bust up marriages in this society. When you get out here, you at least have a chance to reflect on life and the meaning of living. One thing both my wife and I seek, a quiet mind.

I'll second that.  Our compatibility score (which is still pretty good after 30+ years) went way up during our ten day trip.  Frankly, that was a major surprise to me.  We live a quiet life in our stix and brix (too quiet?), so I can't point to daily chaos as a factor, but living in an open-ended context and making conscious choices together did us good.  Getting away from the city always helps, too. Vickie

Lyric · Nov 14, 2011

Here, here, Romani10, I second that emotion!  <a target="_blank" href="profile/1803505">

Lyric · Nov 14, 2011

Awwwww hot dang.  I am jeeaallouuuus!  After the event I do hope yaw'll post tidbits for those of us who don't qualify (lol) and those who simply can't make it. We're still inside the stix and mortar, blah, blah, but for what it's worth we have the vagabond, tramp spirit!  <img style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0); font-weight: bold;" src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">   Shoot (52 year old pout going on here); Lee has babies.  A late bloomer, having kids at 78 years of age.  Heck, I had mine when I was 2 so they are grown, gone, one their own.  It's HIS fault we can't come out and play!  Bwaaahhhh <img style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/sneaky.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">

Seraphim · Nov 14, 2011

Take the kids. Let them grow up, in the outdoors and learn to explore, to question, and to come up with their own explanations. They'll be better people for it.

dragonflyinthesky · Nov 14, 2011

A late bloomer, having kids at 78 years of age.   Wow, I'm impressed, I didn't know men could still, well never mind. How old are the kids? Do as Seraphin suggested, take them out of school and have fun.  There was a series several years ago about a family that went cross country with grandmaw and the kidsin their Suburban and an airstream. Might have been called Paradise or Promised land.

Lyric · Nov 15, 2011

"Wow, I'm impressed, I didn't know men could still" @ dragonfly . . . He's late 40's now, but have babies as far as I'm concerned (11-13 years old); as I said, mine are grown and gone (26-38 years old); so I'm donnne with the child rearing. @Seraphim, good suggestion.  Plus, they are homeschooled so it would be a geography lesson at the least. <img src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">

dragonflyinthesky · Nov 15, 2011

<IMG border=0 align=absMiddle src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/confused.gif"> I sure got his age confused. Take care Lyric. Dragonfly

romani10 · Nov 15, 2011

Seraphim said:
Take the kids. Let them grow up, in the outdoors and learn to explore, to question, and to come up with their own explanations. They'll be better people for it.

<div>  Radical concept, in this society. Didn't know you were that anti-establishment...</div>

Seraphim · Nov 15, 2011

Didn't know you were that anti-establishment...

No particular connection there. We camped, I lived in the woods nearby. If there were rocks, I turned them over. A rotted tree? I dug into the wood. If you're going to homeschool, keep in mind it's a fulltime job, or you're cheating the children. I've never used my teaching degree, my wife uses hers. She's taking early retirement because the 'no child left behind' program has destroyed public education. Get rid of that nonsense and let those trained and experienced do their jobs. But, schools are getting of higher paid teachers - DW took a very nice buyout, as did 60-80 other teachers in her district - and the order is out only to replace them (the one's actually being replaced) with first year teachers only. BS! (and I don't mean Beloved Son). Rant over. No, just teach them well, and make sure they have the qualifications to continue on with their education, should they desire.

romani10 · Nov 15, 2011

Seraphim said:
Didn't know you were that anti-establishment...

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  No particular connection there. We camped, I lived in the woods nearby. If there were rocks, I turned them over. A rotted tree? I dug into the wood. If you're going to homeschool, keep in mind it's a fulltime job, or you're cheating the children. I've never used my teaching degree, my wife uses hers. She's taking early retirement because the 'no child left behind' program has destroyed public education. Get rid of that nonsense and let those trained and experienced do their jobs. But, schools are getting of higher paid teachers - DW took a very nice buyout, as did 60-80 other teachers in her district - and the order is out only to replace them (the one's actually being replaced) with first year teachers only. BS! (and I don't mean Beloved Son). Rant over. No, just teach them well, and make sure they have the qualifications to continue on with their education, should they desire.

<div>  Yes, I know there is no particular connection. Just feeling you out. Here is my rant. Growing up in Ohio I had a teacher that beat me every day. Circa 1956. When I got to catholic military school, in 1962,  (st. stanislaus)I learned what a real teacher beating was.</div><div>  Seems home schooling in the "wild" would be a much better option than the kind of trauma I was stuck with.</div>

Butternut · Nov 15, 2011

Lyric said:
 @Seraphim, good suggestion.  Plus, they are homeschooled so it would be a geography lesson at the least. <img src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" align="absmiddle" border="0">

I was homeschooled (fifteen years ago) and would have killed for that kind of geography lesson!

Seraphim · Nov 15, 2011

Yes, I know there is no particular connection. Just feeling you out. Here is my rant. Growing up in Ohio I had a teacher that beat me every day. Circa 1956. When I got to catholic military school, in 1962, (st. stanislaus)I learned what a real teacher beating was.

We grew up in different times. If I got it at school, I got it at home. Teachers were never wrong. The pendulum swings and now it's too far the other direction. Little Johnny can do no wrong. We don't make him learn at home, therefore it's the teachers fault he can't read...

Even the best school can do only so much without the active support of parents. Parents have gotten lazy - in general.

Sorry to hear of your teacher problems.. There are so many better methods of motivation than a beating.

romani10 · Nov 16, 2011

Seraphim said:
Yes, I know there is no particular connection. Just feeling you out. Here is my rant. Growing up in Ohio I had a teacher that beat me every day. Circa 1956. When I got to catholic military school, in 1962, (st. stanislaus)I learned what a real teacher beating was.

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 We grew up in different times. If I got it at school, I got it at home. Teachers were never wrong. The pendulum swings and now it's too far the other direction. Little Johnny can do no wrong. We don't make him learn at home, therefore it's the teachers fault he can't read... Even the best school can do only so much without the active support of parents. Parents have gotten lazy - in general. Sorry to hear of your teacher problems.. There are so many better methods of motivation than a beating.

<div>  Yes, the pendulum swings. You are right about the parental support. I experienced many problems with our local school when raising my son. His imagination did not fit.</div>

Seraphim · Nov 16, 2011

Back on topic lol I guess it depends on the parents whether an alternative form of education is going to work. DW has a 'home-schooled second grader in class who - for the first two years of 'home school' was set in front of a TV all day.

Yup. That's an education.

WanderingRonin · Nov 22, 2011

Don't have much to contribute except I am glad I am not raising kids in this atmosphere... Most of the time, not just schools but society and parents are just raising the next generation of mindless consumers. It's a tough road for home schoolers but man, when it works, it works. It's the epitome of personal responsibility which is very admirable and laudable in this media driven age.

dragonflyinthesky · Nov 22, 2011

We homeschooled my daughter from the 7th grade on. We sent her to an educator who accepted 20 students, all ages. We had to provide to the public school district, program documentation, grade scores several times a year and final testing  etc. Ms Marilyn could pick and choose her students. She could void the contract to teach with no notice other than come get your child. She did this on several occasions. This made for a little community of responsible children and teens. Due to necessity and no outside funding other than our tuitions, parents would pick up where she lacked. For a while my ex taught and toutored higher math.  I gave art classes. We even did that after Dakota graduated HS from Ms Marilyn. Other parents were invested as well and there was always an overlap of parents helping out whose kids had graduated years before. I lack the organizational abilities to do something so complex as homeschooling. It is a very difficult job and I am glad we were able to have someone else do it right. My son  stayed in their little blue collar farm kids school. Both kids have done well so far but they both had a lot of expectations from us,I think that is the bottom line.      PS Whene we took out kids out of school to vacation from Nov til Jan, they never had a problem picking up where they left off. We did this til my son entered the 7th grade. No the school was never happy. Dragonfly

Seraphim · Nov 22, 2011

Dragonfly

Do you think homeschooled children - in general - can compete on the college level as well as those taught in traditional schools?

dragonflyinthesky · Nov 22, 2011

Might be some interesting stats on that if I can figure out how to do a  search.  I think it depends on the program and the vested interest the parent has. In all seriousness, if I did the homeschooling I would think my daughter would not be competative in college. Interestingly enough, her boyfriend was homeschooled until he got into highschool. His mother schooled him but she is an English professor at Wright State University. I guess I find it interesting in that few kids are homeschooled.  There is a decent population of old order German Baptists (Dunkerds) in my area. Most of them are homeschooled, often in groups like dakota was. If they are sent to public school, most are pulled out when they get in their teens. I only know what I see Lyric write, but I think she might be good at homeschooling, and it is usually the mom that does most the teaching Dragonfly

Seraphim · Nov 23, 2011

I rather like the idea of parents pooling resources - teaching what they know. It would take a dedicated group however. I watched a program about parents in England opening their own school. It was interesting.

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