Social Security at 62 + 1 month.

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I'd rather take it early and work part time to make up for any shortfalls, than keep working full time until I can collect more.
My life span is unknown and beyond my control, but my earning potential is entirely up to me.  I'm not trading my days for dollars any more than I absolutely have to.
 
The USA system is different than the Canadian system. I also find the USA SS people are more than helpful in figuring the best deal for you. The problem is getting the appointment and sitting in a waiting room for your turn. I will dig out my files when I return to base, but I'm fairly certain it did not take more than a few years to "break even". Whatever that means. I am glad I waited until full retirement age as it means a much happier retirement with money to spend. But that is me and I really don't care if you don't investigate your own situation.
 
You need to ask a question. Can you keep working until age 66? I did not have a light job, but I was able to continue. These figures are from my SS benefit explanation. I have rounded the figures for clarity. Retire at 62, collect $1230.00 per month. Retire at 66, collect $1640.00 per month. That is over 400 per month, $100 per week for the rest of my life. That is a lot. I paid in my whole life; $55770.00. That breakeven (stupid concept talking about insurance) is less than 4 years retire at 62. Less than 3 years retire at 66. From 62 until 66 I could have collected $59000. Seems like a lot until I'm paying for gas and food and repairs and what ever with $100 less per WEEK. I did not work much when I was younger, I had too much fun. So I had to work later in life. If you can collect more than you need at 62 because you busted your ass 5 decades, then take 3/4 of your benefit. If you were self employed and paid your own full SS tax, you have to double the breakeven, so 8 at 62, 6 at 66.
 
When I was talking break even I was comparing the difference in total monies received between starting at 62 and 66.
If you start at 62 and get $1,230 a month for the next 4 years, you have received $59,040.00, (1230 X 48 months). The person who waited until 66 has received nothing. The difference in payments between the two people is 1640 - 1230 = $410. So how long does it take that extra $410 to equal $59,040 ?
59040 / 410 = 144 months. 144 / 12 = 12 years. So they retired at 66 and 12 years later they would be 78 years old. At this point they would have received just as much money as the person who retired at 62.
I am not advocating anyone take it early or wait. I was just explaining that you do not get more money by waiting, (as in total amount). What is best depends on the individual. In my case, my pension was not going to get any bigger, (retired at 55). I had a heart attack 12 years ago, and statistics are it will be another one that does me in before I hit 78. I can use the money to pay off debts, (mortgage). Being debt free is like having more income, (a penny saved is a penny earned). If I waited until 66 to start S.S., I would still have those payments to make. In my case I would have less income if I waited. Let's say my difference was $400, and my mortgage was $600. I would be losing $200 a month until the Mortgage was paid, (compared to starting at 62 and paying off the $50k mortgage balance).
 
DannyB1954 said:
End of October I will be 62. I filed for Social Security. I went online and seen the first payment is at the end of December. I called them up and they said to qualify I had to be 62 for one month first. During that month no benefits are paid.  
Anybody know about this + one month rule?

  I retired at 62 almost 2yrs ago. They are 1 month behind because people have died and they did'nt get there money back. Just have to live with it. Also your ck will be a little bigger because there waiting for your last ck to go thought. Have a Great retirement Art
 
All I know is that's the way they do it !
 
jonthebru said:
I don't want to turn this into a political discussion, but above I commented on the idea of everyone having a guaranteed income. Here is an article on the subject. Evidently people have been talking about this for a long time.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/universal-basic-income/?ex_cid=538fb

If we can all control ourselves, this could be a very interesting thread.

BUT IT IS OFF-TOPIC HERE AND NEEDS IT'S OWN THREAD.

Posts on it here will be deleted.
Bob
 
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