tx2sturgis said:
Ok...I was referring to the difference, at idle, between an old shovel kicked into life, compared to a newer Evo or Twincam thumbed into 'ON' mode. ....there is a huge difference in sound. The old iron just has this chuff-chuff, air pump+organic sound to it...whereas the new Twincams have that 'lumpiness' engineered into them by the ECM software..not to mention the intake and exhaust plumbing is radically different.
At any rate, lots of pans, shovels, ironhead sporties, etc, are simply used in bar-hopper duty these days. Engine longevity is irrelevant for many owners, when they only ride 100 miles per month on these old bikes. They might have a newer bike for road trips, but quite often, the old rigid pans and shovels, bobbers and choppers, are just for in-town poker runs and girly rides.
Had to laugh...I got out of riding in the late 80s, and know little about the newer bikes, and havent had much interest in them since getting back to riding, my frame of reference is shovels and earlier, Im sort of color-blind so to speak on anything later. Many of the current H-Ds, I honestly cant tell the difference between them and other makes to look at them. The current rage of full dresser/fat fenders/wheels etc types also sort of goes right by me. I like the stripped down style, minimalist to a degree, and a couple hundred pounds lighter, slightly longer forks with better handling etc. So...yes, i get your point now.
When I became interested in bikes again, it was a 49 Panhead custom that started the spark. I soon realized that with the starting price, then the $2500 for electric start parts to adapt to it, then the sidecar, it was way out of my budget. My friend with the shop said he had an 84 Shovel. I was somewhat horrified at the thought of owning such a new bike. A little math, and the 47 I built in 1980 seemed ancient. Today, the 84 is older now than the 47 was then. Gads, Im getting old. Anyway, I really like the 84 once I got it. I started out on a 76 Superglide as far as H-Ds go, so its pretty familiar, besides working on them at the shop and friends having them back in the day.
Qxxx said:
Not quite a Harley, but my 4-cylinder 750 looked just like this, except the full-fairing was silver. A real beauty. Boys and their toys.
Nice clean bike! I like H-Ds, but am not a purist by any means. The world is a big place, with enough room for lots of different things, people and interests. I mostly spend online time related to bikes on the advrider forum. It has a small minority of H-D people, but scads of interesting riders, places theyve been, and experiences theyve had. Lots of good ride reports, good ideas on places to go, smart things to learn related to riding and bikes in general.
Before getting on to H-Ds I had a 650 Yamaha, then later, I had a 70s Kaw KZ900 ltd for a short while. The Kaw was scary fast, and is probably slow by todays standards.
OK, if were doing pics, heres the 84 Low Rider,
And with the sidecar mocked up, its not mounted quite yet,