Is sex allowed at RTR/BLM/Walmart/RestStops/Truckstops? (inside your rig of course)

[GeorgiePorgie]

I think less of those who use sex workers than the sex workers themselves.   There is a certain honesty in the transaction, from the perspective of the sex workers, that you get to use my body in exchange for money.  

I lived in South East Asia for many years. Prostitution is a normal part of life and men are pretty much expected to indulge. 30 years ago, there was a lot of women working in indentured servitude, but nowadays, it is mostly by choice as wages for other work is so low.

 

[Headache]

Not talking about the legal brothels in Nevada, but rather, the seedy underworld of human trafficking.

Thanks for pointing that out because there is a huge difference between the two and there's nothing wrong with the worlds oldest profession if that's the career a woman chooses to do. 

I don't think any less of them, some of them are pretty astute about business and realized they could make more money per hour doing that.  Work smart not hard!

The "lizard" part of lot lizard had nothing to do with the way they looked, at least when I was a truck driver.  It implied how they seemed to run around like a lizard(on hot sand) from truck to truck until they found a customer.

As far as the OP's question, well I guess I'm surprised you felt compelled to ask.

 

[LMTLMT]

As far as the OP's question, well I guess I'm surprised you felt compelled to ask.

I know "sex" is a sensitive and/or private subject, however, although having sex is a private matter but it does affect others when it comes to noise.  In the case at RTR, if my rig is rocking, some might get offended due to the noise, and for Walmart or Rest Stops, some might deem inappropriate being the fact that its in a public use areas and cops would be called.

I wanted to find out what legal issues I might be running into if having sex in those areas mentioned earlier.  

Yes its nobody's business but in these days there will always someone don't agree with you and bring drama.

 

[ben2go]

I'm always open for free-range sex in the woods.

Prostitution definition: Prostitution is the business or practice of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment either as money, goods, services, or some other benefit agreed upon by the transacting parties. Prostitution is sometimes described as commercial sex or hooking.

 

[TMG51]

Actually, from having worked with survivors, I can tell you: very few people have a real idea about the true conditions under which a woman is a prostitute. 

In fact, the line between trafficking and being pimped is so much thinner than most may believe. Even the word "choice" deserves a much more nuanced analysis than we usually accord it.

Here's my partially-informed opinion. I think the above is true for the previous generation of prostitutes. You're speaking in the context of girls on the street and girls in truck stops, probably with pimps. Nowadays, it's all online advertising. No one stands on the street corner anymore. They practically have Yelp reviews. I persononally know prostitutes (both female, and male) who are happy with their choices and who make more money than I do working construction. (No, I have never solicited their services, nor that of any other prostitute.)

I'm not saying women have not been subjected to the conditions you describe. Certainly they have, and their experiences are valid. I'm saying the market is changing with technology. Like with most any profession, be your own boss if you want to make the real money.

...if my rig is rocking, some might get offended due to the noise, and for Walmart or Rest Stops, some might deem inappropriate being the fact that its in a public use areas and cops would be called.

I wanted to find out what legal issues I might be running into if having sex in those areas mentioned earlier.  

Yes its nobody's business but in these days there will always someone don't agree with you and bring drama.

As for the original question, I honestly would not worry about it. In keeping with your euphemism, my "rig" has been "rocking" at all of the aforementioned locations. I don't know that there is any legal precedent for claiming that's public indecency, when you're in a closed vehicle. In fact, that's rather the idea of a privacy wall in a limo. If a cop pulls over the limo driver, he has no right to search the back quarters if they're not in plain sight.

Once (only once!) I did have someone object to "rocking" of my "rig." It was summer, and hot, and I had the windows open, and I suppose noise was evident, and a passerby voiced concerns. I conceded with her perspective rather than make it an issue. Drove two streets over and resumed. As far as I know, the only law I broke in that time was driving barefoot.

 

[FlowerGirl]

Here's my partially-informed opinion. I think the above is true for the previous generation of prostitutes. You're speaking in the context of girls on the street and girls in truck stops, probably with pimps. Nowadays, it's all online advertising. No one stands on the street corner anymore. They practically have Yelp reviews. I persononally know prostitutes (both female, and male) who are happy with their choices and who make more money than I do working construction. (No, I have never solicited their services, nor that of any other prostitute.)

I'm not saying women have not been subjected to the conditions you describe. Certainly they have, and their experiences are valid. I'm saying the market is changing with technology. Like with most any profession, be your own boss if you want to make the real money.


As for the original question, I honestly would not worry about it. In keeping with your euphemism, my "rig" has been "rocking" at all of the aforementioned locations. I don't know that there is any legal precedent for claiming that's public indecency, when you're in a closed vehicle. In fact, that's rather the idea of a privacy wall in a limo. If a cop pulls over the limo driver, he has no right to search the back quarters if they're not in plain sight.

Once (only once!) I did have someone object to "rocking" of my "rig." It was summer, and hot, and I had the windows open, and I suppose noise was evident, and a passerby voiced concerns. I conceded with her perspective rather than make it an issue. Drove two streets over and resumed. As far as I know, the only law I broke in that time was driving barefoot.

Sorry, TMG 51, I am not speaking about times past. Wish I were. 

As recently as 16 months ago, the CEO of Backpages dot com was charged with pimping through his online site, and indicted on trafficking of minors and pimping charges. Backpages is one of the largest online "Adult" marketplaces online, and in my city (New York) alone he was collecting 2.5 million dollars PER MONTH for running ads. Same in California. That's just two states. You can get an idea of the size of his operation. Most of the ads on Backpages were for "escorts" and he (along with other pimps) were behind many of them. All of the ads conveyed the perception of "choice", as if they were always placed by the prostitute/escort themselves.  This is not a new sleight-of-hand. For as long as online technology has existed, pimps and traffickers have been camouflaging ads there.You can google this yourself. 

I have excerpted some highlights of the Baclpages article which was carried via most major News stations. This is just ONE News story. There are so many. Here's another one from Feb. 2017 talking about the correlation between MegaSports like the Superbowl and the sex trafficking rings that ramp up their "supply" for these events. Again, no one is hiring "streetwalkers". Everything is done usnig ads that sound innocuous enough. 

Link: 
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...king-and-sporting_us_58a25412e4b0e172783a9fd7

No one doubts that there are some people who freely choose to prostitute themselves, and may even enjoy their work, like those you reference. However, they are speaking from the minority who have the privilege of being able to choose their work, and thus do NOT speak for the millions of women and children who are trafficked throughout the world and have zero choice (or voice) in the matter. Let's not make the mistake of allowing the relatively few privileged people to create the only narrative we want to hear. 

To keep this topic germane to RV and Van Life, as TxSturgis said, truck stops are often hubs where traffickers send their victims.
Google the truckers organization who are seeking to eradicate this; I did and it was eye-opening. The bottom line: Caveat Emptor.
What one may justify "purchasing" at a truck stop or elsewhere may not, in fact, be represented truthfully. 

Link to News Story about Backpages CEO busted for pimping/ trafficking:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/06/backpage-ceo-arrested-sex-ads-forced-prostitution

"State agents raided the Dallas headquarters of adult classifieds site Backpage and arrested CEO Carl Ferrer on Thursday following allegations that adult and child sex-trafficking victims had been forced into prostitution through escort ads posted on the site.....


The site operates in hundreds of cities worldwide, authorities said, including more than 30 in California. It collected $2.5m per month just from California, or more than $51m during the 29 months covered by the internal revenue reports.
Authorities said the state’s three-year investigation found many of the ads include victims of sex trafficking, including people younger than 18.
The department said the investigation was prompted in part by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which reported 2,900 instances to California authorities since 2012 when suspected child sex trafficking occurred via Backpage.
State agents posted escort ads online and met with those who posted to confirm that the communications were to arrange for commercial sex.
Backpage has been the subject of recent Senate hearings into its classified ads, which often promote escort services. Last month, the supreme court refused to block a Senate subpoena seeking information on how Backpage screens ads for possible sex trafficking."

 

[HerzeleidMeister]

Check with the Walmart manager first.

Guy

OMG that made me laugh, I almost snorted my coffee!