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<div>this is so dead on how i feel. thanks.</div><div><br></div>
paddling_man said:
Lol. I'm a light-hearted guy who loves people. I find it preferable to be able to defend myself in a life-or-death confrontation and avoid it vigorously than being caught in an unavoidable bad situation with no means of defense. Avoidance is paramount but I refuse to let bad folks rob me of my freedom of adventure too.<br><br>I am just a simple, peaceful, quiet dude trying to make my way in a harmonious world that occasionally turns ugly. <img src="/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"><br>
 
<div>now that is sweet. much more of an edc than the models available when i was considering one.....of course, i was then more looking for a woods gun....</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://twokniveskatie.blogspot.com/2008/02/katie-get-your-gun.html" target="_blank">http://twokniveskatie.blogspot.com/2008/02/katie-get-your-gun.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>it's funny, i woke up thinking about this blog post. i had a dream that Mutt was attacked by coyotes ( we get them close up on the farm here alot...had one in my yard once). i kept looking for my gun, but wasn't carrying it. i stuck a rake in the coyotes mouth and held it's head down until a man came by and cursed at me for not being prepared, and killed it with a baseball bat. it took a long time to shake off that dread after i woke up.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>anyhow, i love the ruger and the fact that it's compact and always on me now, like the 2 knives, but still think i will get a woods gun with a more appropriate fire power......&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>
VanTramp said:
Nice collection there Paddling Man!<div><br></div><div>Hey Kate, this is the one I was thinking of.</div><div><br></div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><a href="http://www.ammoland.com/2010/01/22/taurus-judge-public-defender-polymer-revolver/" target="_blank">http://www.ammoland.com/2010/01/22/taurus-judge-public-defender-polymer-revolver/</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ammoland.com/2010/01/22/taurus-judge-public-defender-polymer-revolver/" target="_blank"></a>&nbsp;</div>
 
Katie - No apology necessary but very sweet of you to say, all the same. I've been a moderator on forums and it can be a thankless job.<br><br>Dragonfly - Offer still holds for you and katie. My side of the creek is always open to friends. In fact, some of my closer friends remind me, "I'm coming to your place if the zombies ever come!"<br><br>Katie: I like knives. I mean, I really, really like knives. <img src="/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"> (That forum I referenced above is Bladeforums.)<br><br>A Busse Active Duty is on my hip right now and the Busse SFNO (pictured below) rides next to me when I'm in the drivers seat. Yep, legal in Indiana to carry concealed or open fixed blades of any length. Just no autos.<br><br>
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<br><br>Like you, my camp will be the one with paddles! <br>
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<div>hi Steve- once in my van i loaded my gun during the night when i felt a friend was in danger. situation resolved without any drama, other than that of me trying to load the gun in the dark.</div><div><br></div><div>i was not vandwelling the one time i needed a gun. the assault by an armed attacker happened in my home, lasted 6 hours, and left me with a knife wound (and others i will not describe). it took me decades to get over the fear, but when i did, and knew i wouldn't shoot the first person who said "boo" i began to carry.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>most recently, my nerve was tested by a man who burst in the back door of a closed and locked office at my friend's business. i was alone, and must say there was a bit of shouting and i almost sh!t myself, &nbsp;but i pulled the gun and not the trigger. i did stop him in his tracks and backed him right up and i must say that felt pretty darn good. i can tell you that i believe the book "the gift of fear" by Gavin De Becker (mentioned earlier) was significant in my reaction. when i was working at the desk, i heard a faint clank in the garage bays. without really thinking, and acting on instinct, i reached for my gun in my messenger bag. seconds later the guy burst through the door. if i had waited to draw my gun until i had a "real reason" i would never have untangled it from my knitting in time.&nbsp;that is one of the reasons i got my little pistol. it's always on me now.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>the decision to carry is individual and very personal. it's not for everybody. &nbsp;most people will never need it. but like paddle man said, sometimes bad sh!t happens. i feel better with the options i chose.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
sl1966 said:
<div>Has the need to carry a firearm for personal defense come up with those of you full timing?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>I don't have plans to carry firearms for personal defense at this time. I will have a rifle for hunting, but would like to know if I might need more.<div>&nbsp;</div>
 
<div>i really like your sharp things. i have some pics somewhere of mine, and my sinew-backed hickory longbow. i'll dig some up.</div><div><br></div><div>i have, in the interests of minimalism, gifted quite a few of my knives in my travels. i now know i will never reach a state of knife minimalism, though. knives are the one place where i break my rule of "something in, something out"&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>an izula came into my life not long ago. that makes 3 knives i EDC.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>i'm surprised to hear Indiana is so good about knives. it is one of the states i avoid like the plaque with the atitude towards travelers and guns....is that only residents that can carry knives?</div><div><br></div><div>i've often thought of joining bladeforums. so many groups, so little time though. i neglect this one alot......</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
paddling_man said:
Katie - No apology necessary but very sweet of you to say, all the same. I've been a moderator on forums and it can be a thankless job.<br><br>Dragonfly - Offer still holds for you and katie. My side of the creek is always open to friends. In fact, some of my closer friends remind me, "I'm coming to your place if the zombies ever come!"<br><br>Katie: I like knives. I mean, I really, really like knives. <img src="/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"> (That forum I referenced above is Bladeforums.)<br><br>A Busse Active Duty is on my hip right now and the Busse SFNO (pictured below) rides next to me when I'm in the drivers seat. Yep, legal in Indiana to carry concealed or open fixed blades of any length. Just no autos.<br><br><br>
 
It seems like blade and firearm laws are, in many States, a reflection of the concessions made by each side to get them passed. <br><br>Missouri? No fixed blade carry. Autos were legal to own but not carry. Anyone over the age of 21 could carried (concealed or open) a legally owned handgun <i>in their car.</i> No permit necessary. Unfortunately, to buy a handgun (from a dealer or individual) one had to submit a request to the local magistrate via a <i>Permit to Purchase Concealabl</i>e <i>Handgun.</i> Wait two or three weeks, drive to pick up the signed permit and use it before it expires in 30-60 days. Once purchased, you needed to return the form with the particulars. <br><br>Indiana? Fixed blade, any length, are fine. Folders? Any size. Just no autos. The permit to carry - concealed or open - is inexpensive and requires no classroom or range time. Downside? If a resident, you can't even an unloaded handgun to the range without said permit. For dealer or private handgun purchase there is zero local involvement from law enforcement / municipalities. If from a dealer, you do the NICS background check and fill out the BATF paperwork. Unless there is a "ding" in the check, you walk out in 15 minutes. If from an individual, the seller is just tasked with the legal responsibility to feel certain that the purchaser is not a <i>prohibited person: i.e., underage, non-resident, felon</i> and then the purchase is cash-and-carry with no paperwork. The law doesn't state *how* the seller needs to be certain. I have a certain amount of <i>float </i>in my personal collection and buy/sell/trade a bit. Most folks I know, check the State DL and their carry permit but record no information.<br><br>Katie - I'm sorry to hear of the past trouble. We're a reflection of our experiences. I understand from an abstract viewpoint though I don't pretend to comprehend fully.<br>
 
twokniveskatie said:
you carried when i was under the influence of drugs post-op. matter of fact, i think you carried all the way into pre-op, to save my ass. oy.
Tara said:
I never carried while vandwelling cause of the driving back and forth through Canada thing.  I usually carried a good sharp little knife (and yes, I know how to use it).  

Holy chit y'all. Katie's on her way into surgery and then she's like, "uh, Tara, guess what I forgot to take out of my bag?" LOL
 
oh, gee. we can really blame facebook for that. yakkity yak. and add to that a very boring life.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>not sayin' that's bad, though&nbsp;<img border="0" align="absmiddle" src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/crazy.gif"></div><div><br></div><div>i will. i will think of something to say. promise.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
 
twokniveskatie said:
on my wishlist:<div><br></div><div>i traded in my old clunky .38 revolver and picked up a Ruger .380 LCP, compliments of my brother. he hated that revolver (i didn't exactly love it) and the fact that i rarely carried it. the LCP is perfect for edc for now, even if it's alot less firepower than i like, because it's so compact and always there.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/index.html?r=y" target="_blank">http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/index.html?r=y</a></div><div><br></div><div>when i have the money, i will get the glock 9mm......</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thought you might enjoy this Kate since you know Heidi so well <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle">&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We stopped in at a local gun shop we hadn't been to before to see if they might have a PX4 in 9MM since that's what she wants for EDC. She explained to them how much she enjoyed shooting our/my .40 cal version &nbsp;and that she felt having a 9MM too would save us some ammo costs at the range while still keeping a fairly consistent feel overall. So what does the guy do? Shows her the LCP in pink... Not a smart salesman! I thought she showed pretty good restraint though! Guess where we will never be shopping now?! LOL!</div><div>&nbsp;</div>
 
<div>hahaha, i can just see her now!</div><div><br></div><div>i'm glad she's carrying. next time somebody's beating a horse with a shovel in her presence, i won't have to worry as much. well, maybe about the bad guy:) numees is awesome.</div><div><br></div><div>i'm liking that PX4. never saw one before. is she thinking of the compact or the sub-compact?</div><div><br></div>
VanTramp said:
<div><br></div><div>Thought you might enjoy this Kate since you know Heidi so well <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle">&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We stopped in at a local gun shop we hadn't been to before to see if they might have a PX4 in 9MM since that's what she wants for EDC. She explained to them how much she enjoyed shooting our/my .40 cal version &nbsp;and that she felt having a 9MM too would save us some ammo costs at the range while still keeping a fairly consistent feel overall. So what does the guy do? Shows her the LCP in pink... Not a smart salesman! I thought she showed pretty good restraint though! Guess where we will never be shopping now?! LOL!</div><div>&nbsp;</div>
 
Yeah, the horses will all be well defended now!! <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle">&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>She says she wants the full size version just like mine. It feels pretty much perfect to both of us so we are willing to deal with the extra PITA factor of keeping it covered. I will say she hasn't had a chance to hold the compact of sub compact yet though so perhaps her mind will change. If we drive to the cities to buy instead of ordering one from here, she could at least get that opportunity.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Hey, when we see you next, you can perforate a stump or two and see why we like em so much <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"></div>
 
Little update <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"> Heidi's new Compact 9MM PX4 is on the way! Should be here Tuesday. We bugged the nice folks on the Beretta forums for a while to help her decide between the compact and full size. They made some pretty good arguments! Wasn't considering the subcompact at all. Really that one isn't even the same gun. Different locking system, barrel doesn't rotate etc.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>CPLs came in today too, yay!&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Katie, I have another gun for you to check out, the Stoeger Cougar. I decided that will be my next one. After that, who knows <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"> I think we are addicted now!</div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_cougar.php" target="_blank">http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_cougar.php</a></div><div><br></div><div>Have seen them priced as low as $339! Pretty great deal for that gun!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
 
hey, Sweet Enabler! i mean Mike&nbsp;<img border="0" align="absmiddle" src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/wave.gif"><div><br></div><div>you keep showing me these guns, and my wish list keeps getting bigger. between you and Paddling man, i am a ruined woman.&nbsp;<br><div><br></div><div>this is the first i saw the preceding post. of course i'll perforate stumps with you! i really really miss you guys. and Dad too. i think of him every time i hear Allison Krause, or get short of breath at elevation. any elevation&nbsp;<img border="0" align="absmiddle" src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/rolleyes.gif"></div><div><br></div><div>i am looking forward to pics of numees' new gun. maybe of her perforating a stump?</div><div><br></div><div>so what swayed you to the sub-com over the other?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
 
"Once you go Glock, you never go back..."&nbsp; lol<br><br><br><br>&nbsp;<br>
 
<div>i think you've called me on this one. i am so in love with the 9mm baby Glock. but hey, a prudent girl has a lot of back-ups, eh?</div><div><br></div>
4x4tour said:
"Once you go Glock, you never go back..."&nbsp; lol&nbsp;<br>
 
We miss you too Sweet Katie! Dad asks about you often, even Joyce does on occasion! Lots of stumps here waiting for you too <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"><div><br></div><div>The Compact is about 3/4" shorter barrel length and a half inch shorter in height than my full size so it isn't a lot different, but the barrel is actually thicker and there are some differences in the recoil spring etc. The main reason overall is that everyone that has them on the Beretta forum loves them and even with some pretty sizable collections, claim it is their favorite gun to shoot. One guy in particular posted a ton of pics of his full size and compact versions side by side and really knew a lot about them. His opinion of them seemed pretty trustworthy too.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>She would never want the sub-compact, just too small and not nearly as smooth a shooter. The compact is sorta like the goldie lox story. In the middle size wise and just right <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"></div>
 
4x4tour said:
"Once you go Glock, you never go back..."&nbsp; lol<br><br><br>
<div><br></div><div>Have shot quite a few of them over the years. They are decent, but don't do it for me. I like Sigs over the Glocks too. I know Glocks have a pretty good following though. But I guess they all do. Preferences and all that <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"></div>
 
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