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Offgrid, so sorry it is under dharmagirl, I couldn't log in on one day so I changed to yogidog. Using the captain's log so I don't take thread off topic :). I will make a blog to chit chat in a couple of weeks when I am out of the house and have time. Thanks!

Suanne, do u know how far closet camping is to Reno? I am seeing truckee? I would rather not be in town either. 

Great recap. II am seeing different solutions work forndifferent climates, humidity being huge thanks for reminder.

SKy14 u are one of those hearty ones I envy!
 
Tjaybird said:
OH MAN!  NOW WHEN I SAY "YOU SURE LOOK CUTE IN YOUR PINK BUNNY SUIT"   :)  
FOLKS ARE GONNA START TAKING POTSHOTS AT ME AGAIN!!!   ;)    AND STOP KICKING THAT CAT WHEN YOU THINK WE CAN'T SEE YOU    :angel:    GOOD MORNING,,,,,,, TJB...Queenie is down for the count and whats that cats name anyway?

If I wore a bunny suit several things would happen.  

1.  Next door neighbor would shoot me. (Y'all never believe what I git this mornin!) 

2.  Cats would run and never come back.  (Revenge of the fluffy bunny!)

3.  I would shoot myself!  (You'll put your eye out!)  :p

I may trip over a cat, step on a cat, sit on a cat, have my lunch eaten by a cat, but deliberately kicking a cat is not an option.  Tigger would give me dirty looks for the rest of my life, and I could not allow that to happen.
 

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GotSmart said:
If I wore a bunny suit several things would happen.  

1.  Next door neighbor would shoot me. (Y'all never believe what I git this mornin!) 

2.  Cats would run and never come back.  (Revenge of the fluffy bunny!)

3.  I would shoot myself!  (You'll put your eye out!)  :p

I may trip over a cat, step on a cat, sit on a cat, have my lunch eaten by a cat, but deliberately kicking a cat is not an option.  Tigger would give me dirty looks for the rest of my life, and I could not allow that to happen.

:p i just knew if u responded you wouldn't  put that pink bunny suit on your response!   queenie is down for the count for hours and i'll join her in a few  so  good day to you   [i do like cats iv'e had 3 felix.. smokey...& dammit.......#3 was the reason i nearly had a "laying on of hands" for a neighbor....no proof......the ol' farts age....his heart condition...saved him..... that and .......if i take time to think i usually calm down.....i still laugh when i think of a friend who said he'd rather be shot again than face my verbal abuse when i'm angry...i don't know what he's fussing about in the 34yrs we've known each other i've rarely raised my voice to him around him yes...i almost lashed into him yesterday  HE SAID I WAS JUST LIKE MY MAMA WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG......THEM THAR IS FIGHTIN" WORDS [true tho] our families go back to 1939 thru many military postings & one foundling home.     now i'm really outta here :)
 
ok back to the original discussion. I use a combination of sleeping bags and blankets. I have 2 sleeping bags, a summer bag and a winter bag. so you can guess use the summer bag in the summer and the winter bag in the winter. if it's really cold I put the summer bag inside the winter bag. I usually keep the bags unzipped and use them like blankets. I also like to keep a fleece blanket, just cuase they are so comfy. oh yeah both my bags are down. highdesertranger
 
Yogidog said:
... Suanne, do u know how far closet camping is to Reno? I am seeing truckee? I would rather not be in town either ...

When I was heading north on US-395, I checked for public lands for dispersed camping using the app "US Public Lands" around the Reno area. I found that there was housing developments on some of the BLM land south of Reno. So, I was confused.

If I were you, I would contact the BLM and NFS district offices for the area and ask. I would guess Truckee has some dispersed camping, but I'd think there would be areas closer to Reno that might prove more convenient for you.

Suanne ... who expects to be going to sleep tonight to the sound of rain's pitter patter on the roof
 
highdesertranger said:
ok back to the original discussion.  I use a combination of sleeping bags and blankets.  I have 2 sleeping bags,  a summer bag and a winter bag.  so you can guess  use the summer bag in the summer and the winter bag in the winter.  if it's really cold I put the summer bag inside the winter bag.  I usually keep the bags unzipped and use them like blankets.  I also like to keep a fleece blanket,  just cuase they are so comfy.  oh yeah both my bags are down.  highdesertranger

This is along the lines of what I do too.

With the current temps I'm using my heavy sleeping bag (Teton sport 0*F for $50 at Sportsman's Warehouse) unzipped and like a blanket over me enveloped inside two pieces of fleece fabric sewn together. I use that in lieu of sheets or a sleeping bag liner. I also have an actual sleeping bag liner, which I tend to use more as a pillow these days. Same with a small couch blanket I didn't want to part with. I have neck problems and never met a pillow I liked, so I don't carry one. My lighter sleeping bag is a 45 degree cheap thing I saw on clearance for like $10 and it's been awesome. On the coldest nights I zip up both sleeping bags nested inside each other, with the liners inside that, crawl in, don a ski mask and gloves, and throw the blanket over me. I also use the lighter bag for lounging around in the cold van. Since it's very thin and slippery, it's easy to shimmy in and out of fully clothed. With my coat covering my top half this covering the rest of me is super comfy (as long as the van started out warm!).

For the 4 months of warm weather we have here I tend to put the large sleeping bag into storage, keep the small one around, and pull out the cotton-backed comforter from storage. In summertime I just sleep with the comforter, liners, and blanket, with the lighter sleeping bag as backup.
 
Truckee is MUCH higher elevation, and if you are worried about staying warm, that is not a good idea. Some of the casinos allow overnight parking for free. Atlantis and Baldini's do according to https://www.campendium.com/nevada
 
is the Miden/Gardenerville area close enough? or should I ask how far do you consider to far from Reno? highdesertranger
 
Thank all, tried two mummy bags I had last night, that is a no go. Will try your suggests tonight.

II saw Atlantis thank u will call them and see what they say about an old pick up truck if I am a patron.

LLove the arms out gets away from Christmas store element!

Thank u on the elevation situation. Having trouble remembering to factor that in not having done this in the past in mountains. So close on the map. They do allow disperesed camping I had called them a while back. In a pinch could work for one night.

Minden, does 395 take u there? Hard to see. Is it hour, hour and half? That would work part of time for week long stays, then Walmart, Atlantis, I believe u said Carson city before, casino for one overnight between to stock up and get daughter.

I see Verdi as option to but believe elevation may be high.

Jaybird, offgrid starting a blog to chitchat so I am not using captains log when I have not even left port! Will.post in few days. Hope u will talk to me there!
Good day to all.
 
it's going to be chilly at night right now in the whole area. Minden/Gardenerville is about 1 hour south of Reno depending on the traffic. just north of Minden take Johnson lane to the east once you get past the subdivision it's all BLM and Forrest service. dispersed camping is allowed. basically all you have to do it's get outside the city to BLM land. highdesertranger
 
Do you have to stay in Reno? Because if you don't, 395 down into the Owens Valley near Bishop has great weather now. I've been staying in the valley for the last few days, its cool at night but warms up right nicely once that sun comes out. Alternatively you could cross over into Cali on I-80 and stay in the western Sierra foothills.
 
just a warning about the Owens Valley. the city of Los Angeles owns 90% of the valley floor and it's day use only. you must get at least into the foothills to get off their property and on BLM/FS land. highdesertranger
 
No don't want to stay in Reno other than overnight to pick up daughter. Main purpose of being there is to help daughter become comfortable with exploring the area camping, as she lives there and is not used to climate, terrain, elevations, culture either. Thinking a circle around Reno might be nice to explore, so this info u guys are providing is exactly what we need to know. Thanks so much.
 
Yogidog said:
No don't want to stay in Reno other than overnight to pick up daughter. Main purpose of being there is to help daughter become comfortable with exploring the area camping, as she lives there and is not used to climate, terrain, elevations, culture either. Thinking a circle around Reno might be nice to explore, so this info u guys are providing is exactly what we need to know. Thanks so much.

Don't know if these people can help you or not:

http://www.reno4x4.com/forum.php

It's a site for people who explore the surrounding area in 4x4s.  Still, they might be able to point you towards some interesting Class 1 trails.  Class 1 trails are the easiest and are considered suitable for high-clearance 2 wheel drive vehicles.

Regards
John
 
Optimistic Paranoid said:
Don't know if these people can help you or not:

http://www.reno4x4.com/forum.php

It's a site for people who explore the surrounding area in 4x4s.  Still, they might be able to point you towards some interesting Class 1 trails.  Class 1 trails are the easiest and are considered suitable for high-clearance 2 wheel drive vehicles.

Regards
John
 
Awesome resource John, exactly what we need to be able to ask questions of local people who know what they are doing. I agree with your signature and I think I am also your user name, thanks
 
Stay undercovers,,, press remote start,,, 10 minutes later get out of bed and drive off
 
Since last fall, I have been truck camping most of the time, both to build savings faster and to learn what I can about the lifestyle as I prepare to build out either my box van or my school bus - or perhaps both. 

If you want to be absurdly comfortable, you will eventually end up with a Wiggy's sleeping bag. There are a few pieces of gear you should spend top dollar on, and this is one of them. No matter how long you live, it will be the last sleeping bag you ever buy. 

Wiggy's Lamilite insulation fiber makes down obsolete. You can spend an evening reading his site - www.wiggys.com It will be time well spent.

Here are the highlights: Lamilite fiber does two things no other sleeping bag insulation - man made or natural - can do: first, it's incredibly durable.  It just doesn't break down.  Wiggy puts a lifetime warranty on all his products, yet actually encourages you to wash your bag every time you return from the field. This is not the typical limited lifetime warranty, either.  It's repair or replace, regardless of how old or abused the product may be, regardless of whether you bought it new or used.   

Second, Lamilite fiber insulates quite well but does not absorb a bit of moisture. In fact, you can climb into a Wiggy's bag that has been submerged in water, and your body heat will dry it from the inside out.  You will wake up warm and dry! This has been proven in the real world by Alaskan bush pilots, and I and many other skeptics have replicated that test at home. (There s a Wiggy's hypothermia rescue bag that has a national stock number, a Canadian stock number and NATO stock number. These stock numbers are essentially permanent purchase approvals...)

I use a Wiggys two bag FTRSS. The inner bag is the Ultima Thule, rated to -20.  The outer bag is the FTRSS overbag, rated to +35. Together, they are rated to something like -40. Winter camping in Colorado, I have never had to put the two bags together.  This is remarkable, because to be comfortable in any other brand of bag, I need to deduct about 25 degrees from the rating 

I have greatly increased comfort by using a 100% cotton flannel sheet inside the bag.  In those moments of disorientation when I first wake up, toasty warm, I often LOL as I realize where I am and how comfortably I slept. 

With any other sleeping bag, the sheet would get wet from trapped perspiration and you would freeze, but due to the moisture passing qualities of Lamilite it doesn't even get damp.  On really cold morning, the outside of the bag will be moist and clammy, but the flannel sheet and the inside of the bag are always dry. Wiggy himself told me that moisture passes through so well that you can see steam rising from the bag in the morning, but I never have. Apparently I don't use it in cold enough conditions.

In the decade plus that I have owned the bag, I have washed the outer bag at least once a month.  Whenever it was in constant use, I washed it two or three times a month. Overall, I would guess it has been washed around 150 times.  Save for a small hole in the shell from a camp fire ember, it is indistinguishable from new. The much heavier inner bag has only been washed a few times a year, and you can't tell it from the outer bag that has been washed several times more often.  

Interestingly, my dog has always sought that bag out and slept on it, no matter what time of year it was or where in the house it was stashed.  Her shedding is one of the reasons the bag was washed so often over the years. I finally broke down and bought her a Wiggy's comforter, which is far easier to wash.

With the recent addition of the inner sheet, washing has been cut back even further.  That is particularly nice for the heavy inner bag, which due to bulk can only be washed in a large commercial machine.

Hope this helps a bunch of people stay warm...

cd
 
cognitive dissonance said:
Since last fall, I have been truck camping most of the time, both to build savings faster and to learn what I can about the lifestyle as I prepare to build out either my box van or my school bus - or perhaps both. 

If you want to be absurdly comfortable, you will eventually end up with a Wiggy's sleeping bag. There are a few pieces of gear you should spend top dollar on, and this is one of them. No matter how long you live, it will be the last sleeping bag you ever buy. 

Wiggy's Lamilite insulation fiber makes down obsolete. You can spend an evening reading his site - www.wiggys.com It will be time well spent.

Here are the highlights: Lamilite fiber does two things no other sleeping bag insulation - man made or natural - can do: first, it's incredibly durable.  It just doesn't break down.  Wiggy puts a lifetime warranty on all his products, yet actually encourages you to wash your bag every time you return from the field. This is not the typical limited lifetime warranty, either.  It's repair or replace, regardless of how old or abused the product may be, regardless of whether you bought it new or used.   

Second, Lamilite fiber insulates quite well but does not absorb a bit of moisture. In fact, you can climb into a Wiggy's bag that has been submerged in water, and your body heat will dry it from the inside out.  You will wake up warm and dry! This has been proven in the real world by Alaskan bush pilots, and I and many other skeptics have replicated that test at home. (There s a Wiggy's hypothermia rescue bag that has a national stock number, a Canadian stock number and NATO stock number. These stock numbers are essentially permanent purchase approvals...)

I use a Wiggys two bag FTRSS. The inner bag is the Ultima Thule, rated to -20.  The outer bag is the FTRSS overbag, rated to +35. Together, they are rated to something like -40. Winter camping in Colorado, I have never had to put the two bags together.  This is remarkable, because to be comfortable in any other brand of bag, I need to deduct about 25 degrees from the rating 

I have greatly increased comfort by using a 100% cotton flannel sheet inside the bag.  In those moments of disorientation when I first wake up, toasty warm, I often LOL as I realize where I am and how comfortably I slept. 

With any other sleeping bag, the sheet would get wet from trapped perspiration and you would freeze, but due to the moisture passing qualities of Lamilite it doesn't even get damp.  On really cold morning, the outside of the bag will be moist and clammy, but the flannel sheet and the inside of the bag are always dry. Wiggy himself told me that moisture passes through so well that you can see steam rising from the bag in the morning, but I never have. Apparently I don't use it in cold enough conditions.

In the decade plus that I have owned the bag, I have washed the outer bag at least once a month.  Whenever it was in constant use, I washed it two or three times a month. Overall, I would guess it has been washed around 150 times.  Save for a small hole in the shell from a camp fire ember, it is indistinguishable from new. The much heavier inner bag has only been washed a few times a year, and you can't tell it from the outer bag that has been washed several times more often.  

Interestingly, my dog has always sought that bag out and slept on it, no matter what time of year it was or where in the house it was stashed.  Her shedding is one of the reasons the bag was washed so often over the years. I finally broke down and bought her a Wiggy's comforter, which is far easier to wash.

With the recent addition of the inner sheet, washing has been cut back even further.  That is particularly nice for the heavy inner bag, which due to bulk can only be washed in a large commercial machine.

Hope this helps a bunch of people stay warm...

cd

That website could be addicitive,.awesome! Not unreasonably priced at all. Just the being able.to wash it sells me.on it, and.Colorado truck camping, all winter that is inspiring ! Do want to start investing in good quality stuff as I can't see myself wanting to change this way of life. Forwarding  site to daughter she has being doing alot of.reasearch also
Thanks again!
 
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