Buying Land

[Gr8ful]

ook it up, there is a 2nd tornado alley now, new one, tornadoes had shifted.

I did look it up & didn't find Michigan in any Tornado alley. Since 1882 2.4 people per year have died in tornadoes about 1/2 or 116 died in 1953.
Are tornadoes common in Michigan?

No, tornadoes are uncommon in Michigan, but they can still occur:

Frequency: Michigan averages 15–18 tornadoes per year

Season: Most tornadoes occur in the spring and summer, primarily in the late afternoon and evening

Speed: Tornadoes typically travel at 30 mph, but can reach speeds of up to 70 mph

Duration: The average tornado in Michigan lasts less than 10 minutes on the ground and travels about 5 miles

Warning time: The average lead time for a tornado warning is 10–15 minutes

 

[Gr8ful]

In Michigan you're more likely to die by lightning than tornadoes. 3 people per year.

 

[Gr8ful]

Look it up, there is a 2nd tornado alley now, new one, tornadoes had shifted.

Please post proof of Michigan being in a new tornado alley,Thanks

 

[Gr8ful]

100s of THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING FLORIDA!​

 

[Gr8ful]

39 acre log cabin with well & septic $69k I'm sure sold but shows what's available

 

[Lorelei072]

I am starting this new thread specifically for those of us who think buying a hunk of land is a good idea. Whether as an individual or a community. We have already had some conversations in another thread and in PMs. So, we are not looking for discussion about IF we should do this. Only about the how, when, and where of it all.

My mother and I bought a 4-acre wooded lot in Georgia paid with cash from my late brother’s life insurance policy. The deed is supposed to be unrestricted but the county zoned it as low-density residential in an agricultural community. I thought that would be fine but the neighbor called the board of health and said we were “camping” on the property and that’s apparently illegal. We only get 2 hours to occupy the property. Unclear if that’s a cumulative 2 hours or 2 hours per visit. But dispersed camping 30 minutes away in NPS land is a thing. Unless someone calls the NPS police on you and steals your gear.

The board of health has to certify the septic system. But there’s no plans to build on the property. How do we install a septic system with no house, no water, and no power? The property was intended to serve as a refuge should the SHTF but now the government is demanding money that we don’t have & documentation that we never wanted to file.

No one has ever (colloquially) camped or spent a night on the property. But the legal definition of “camping” covers any imaginable human activity. I once hung wet clothes on a tree branch there so I’m in violation of “camping” on property that’s free & clear. There must be a certified septic system.

Imagine what the North Carolina hurricane victims are dealing with.

 

[rruff]

How do we install a septic system with no house, no water, and no power? The property was intended to serve as a refuge should the SHTF but now the government is demanding money that we don’t have & documentation that we never wanted to file.

The "karens" are definitely being empowered. Probably don't like how you "look"... or maybe they were nailed by the same stupid law and don't want you getting away with it...

You don't need any of the things you mentioned to have a septic installed. You just need $$$.

There are very few places left in this country where you can poop in a hole and pour a wee bit of water on the ground on your own land, and not be in violation of the law. Doesn't matter how many acres your own. Land of the free, baby.

 

[bullfrog !]

The "karens" are definitely being empowered. Probably don't like how you "look"... or maybe they were nailed by the same stupid law and don't want you getting away with it...

You don't need any of the things you mentioned to have a septic installed. You just need $$$.

There are very few places left in this country where you can poop in a hole and pour a wee bit of water on the ground on your own land, and not be in violation of the law. Doesn't matter how many acres your own. Land of the free, baby.

Not to mention the costs of permitting and inspections!