Terrorism in Oregon

[Optimistic Paranoid]

Couldn't help myself . . .

 

[LeeRevell]

Couldn't help myself . . .

Hehehe!  Most excellent!  Added it to my archives.  Destined to be on online classic!   

 

[Patrick46]

All I'm gonna say, is that I think this is going to end very BADLY for these guys...and the government will use it as yet another scare tactic to keep the rest of the 'sheep' inline.

In their eyes: "Thinking outside the box is a no-no! Just do your jobs, mind your own business, and we won't f*ck with you."

 

[SaltySeaWitch]

HDR, Buckwilk, and Patrick46....I concur. There is a reason there are very few farms and ranches left that are privately owned. When the government wants your land, they will do anything to get it. One need only look at the history of the railroad to see what lengths the government will go to.

 

[gcal]

All I'm gonna say, is that I think this is going to end very BADLY for these guys...and the government will use it as yet another scare tactic to keep the rest of the 'sheep' inline.

In their eyes: "Thinking outside the box is a no-no! Just do your jobs, mind your own business, and we won't f*ck with you."

I think it's a hoot. You could not get better on Saturday Night Live.

Some guys poach deer and elk and set a fire to hide evidence. While they waiting trial, for whatever reason, they set a second fire that gets way out of hand and puts firefighters' lives at risk and costs the taxpayers a ton of money. They are lightly sentenced for the first fire and poaching. If they had not set the second, the second judge would never have learned that the first judge had been unaware of the legally mandated minimum sentence and had given them a much lighter sentence.

Now, some more guys are upset about poachers and arsonists going to jail. They have decided to do the equivalent of holding their breath until they turn blue by squatting in an empty, closed Visitors Center in a bird sanctuary and sitting in their cars in the parking lot making YouTube videos about how noble and brave they are. Nobody cares. It's winter and even the birds are gone and don't care. Sorry, this whole thing is a joke.

 

[mockturtle]

In their eyes: "Thinking outside the box is a no-no! Just do your jobs, mind your own business, and we won't f*ck with you."

Minding their own business didn't seem to work at Ruby Ridge.  

 

[LeeRevell]

Minding their own business didn't seem to work at Ruby Ridge.  

Nor at Waco.  There is always a better, nonviolent way to address the issue, but when Big Government gets it's frilly knickers in a wad, people die.

 

[mockturtle]

Yep, both were sad examples of government power run amok.

 

[SaltySeaWitch]

Couldn't help myself . . .

Awesome! Had to copy that one to share

 

[gcal]

Government overreach or not I don't think it is ever advisable to have a standoff with armed government agents even if you are 100% sure that you are abiding by all laws and depressing.

IF, however, you are openly breaking laws because you don't agree with them as they are written, perhaps a move to a location where every individual gets to make their own rules without fear of government harassment is in order. I can only think of Somalia at the moment but I'm sure there are others.

A friend of mine had a brother that was a follower of the Sovereign Citizen movement. He made the decision that it was worth loosing his life in a confrontation with SWAT to defend his sovereign right to drive a car without a tag or drivers license. One life pissed away..... for what?

Guy

Sovereign Citizen? Did he ever bother to look up where that phrase came from and what it means? Believe me, it does not mean what he thought it means. As the Articles of Confederation were superseded bythe Constitution two hundred years ago, it has no practical meaning at all, now. Even when it did, it would not have excused him from his own stàte's licensing laws. The state of education in this country is sad and depressing.

What is it with these people? The wild west is gone. It is not coming back. It never existed the way they believe it did, anyway. The words "disfunctional" and "mental illness" come to mind. I will not say more because I am sure that it will be censored.

 

[AltTransBikes]

Interesting the chief protagonist in all this, the Bundy boy, garnered a $550,000 SBA loan to get his fleet business off the ground and the Koch brothers have seen fit to funnel cash to his dad's campaign.

IMO, if these people had their way, Yosemite Valley and every other N.P. would be a giant walmart and a parking lot,  with them as the owners. "Stewardship" is not a concept they understand. John Muir recognized these kind of grifters 120 years ago...they see the grandiosity of nature only as something to be dollarized.

 

[gcal]

Just a snarky update. The bird sanctuary squatters, who obviously are a well regulated militia and planned their squat out carefully, forgot about food. They sent out an urgent request for supplies, and gave a general delivery address to the post office run by the evil government. (That about gave me a heart attack from laughter) Jon Ritzheimer's recent video, among others showed that the country has responded. Concerned citizens have sent hundreds of tampons, condoms and rubber dicks. To my knowledge, they have not yet received a supply of Vaseline.

Unfortunately, they are also missing any sense of humor. They think that these packages are signs of hate and do not realize that they are not taken seriously and are being pranked.

 

[Canine]

Looks like the Bundy boy is going to have to use the $500,000 he got from the taxpayers to pay his fines and to pay the feds for damage to public property.A judge in Oregon says he will impose $70,000 a day in fines.These people aren't scary,just pathetic.

 

[gcal]

Interesting the chief protagonist in all this, the Bundy boy, garnered a $550,000 SBA loan to get his fleet business off the ground and the Koch brothers have seen fit to funnel cash to his dad's campaign.

IMO, if these people had their way, Yosemite Valley and every other N.P. would be a giant walmart and a parking lot,  with them as the owners. "Stewardship" is not a concept they understand. John Muir recognized these kind of grifters 120 years ago...they see the grandiosity of nature only as something to be dollarized.

The Koch brothers would dearly love to get greedy hands on any BLM public land they can. If we are dumb enough to let them, that will be the end of public use.

 

[mockturtle]

These people aren't scary,just pathetic.

Yep.  

 

[Canine]

A little lesson in the Bundy type mindset.A pitbull attacked a child in a small town in Alabama.A man grabbed a stick and beat the dog off the child and in the process killed the dog.A reporter who witnessed the event ran up,shook the mans hand and told him he was going to do a story about it.He was going to headline the story"Local man risked his own life to save one of our children from a rabid dog".The man said that was fine but he wasn't from that area.OK,says the reporter,I'll title the story"Alabama man saves child from viscious dog".Actually,said the man"I'm not from Alabama,I'm from New York."So when the story came out in the paper the headline was"Yankee Scum kills beloved family Pet."

 

[gcal]

A little lesson in the Bundy type mindset.A pitbull attacked a child in a small town in Alabama.A man grabbed a stick and beat the dog off the child and in the process killed the dog.A reporter who witnessed the event ran up,shook the mans hand and told him he was going to do a story about it.He was going to headline the  story"Local man risked his own life to save one of our children from a rabid dog".The man said that was fine but he wasn't from that area.OK,says the reporter,I'll title the story"Alabama man saves child from viscious dog".Actually,said the man"I'm not from Alabama,I'm from New York."So when the story came out in the paper the headline was"Yankee Scum kills beloved family Pet."

In this case, the Bundy bunch are the Yankee Scumm. The locals want them gone. Cases involving that very wildlife refuge made it to the Supreme Court twice, both involving big land owners against the government ownership. In both cases, the small land owners and locals sided with the government. The cases firmly established the right of the Feds to ownership of federal land (this place, in particular) and to administer it for public good.

 

[rvpopeye]

I suppose they have never thought of just driving down the road to the local grocery store ????? Buncha Geniuses I tell ya !

 

[mockturtle]

A little lesson in the Bundy type mindset

I'd say that was more a lesson on how the media treat news stories.   :-/   And, by 'Bundy type mindset' you are creating a 'type' from the stupid behavior of a few individuals.

 

[gcal]

I'd say that was more a lesson on how the media treat news stories.   :-/   And, by 'Bundy type mindset' you are creating a 'type' from the stupid behavior of a few individuals.

Yes. That's how profiling is done. People are not all that complicated. Don't you find that you can group people in categories, yourself, and can correctly guess a lot about them from what you know about others in that category? You really can judge a lot about a book from its cover because we human books put a lot into communicating who we are by how we put together our cover.