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MOTORHOME BAN Just WEEKS AWAY in 6 STATES! BREAKING
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eDJ_
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Right around 12:34 in the video he mentions Montana (and possibly others) clamping down on LLC and presumably 15 501 c3 tax exempts who use that
in order to write off the cost of such large RV's. I figure that will dampen the sales of many RV's.
In the past anyone could visit the "Universal Life Church" on line and within five minutes become an ordained minister for free. Then they could buy a big RV and use their family (as secretary & treasurer) where they were the executive officer and conform to the requirements of a not for profit and enjoy the RV life in a big RV.
I'm wondering what this will do to the National Parks when the census of users falls off ? Will the timber industry want to come in and clear crop sections of the park ? This happened in the early 1980's when James G. Watt the Secretary of the Interior wanted to promote this.
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in order to write off the cost of such large RV's. I figure that will dampen the sales of many RV's.
In the past anyone could visit the "Universal Life Church" on line and within five minutes become an ordained minister for free. Then they could buy a big RV and use their family (as secretary & treasurer) where they were the executive officer and conform to the requirements of a not for profit and enjoy the RV life in a big RV.
I'm wondering what this will do to the National Parks when the census of users falls off ? Will the timber industry want to come in and clear crop sections of the park ? This happened in the early 1980's when James G. Watt the Secretary of the Interior wanted to promote this.
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In the trucking business, we have had "Certified Clean Idle" technology for many years, meaning, the emissions controls and DPF filters on the newer Class 8 trucks are able to scrub the exhaust to the point that in the LA basin, where air pollution can be thick under certain conditions, the air coming OUT of the exhaust was cleaner than the 'fresh air' going into the engine air intake.
That's not the case in a cleaner environment, but it occurred in the more smog prone areas.
These new heavy duty diesel engines are very clean...in fact, the little APU engine (on-board generator) puts out more pollutants than the main engine does, per hour of operation.
The CARB standards have gotten very tight the last 10-15 years and it's not getting any better for petroleum burning engines there.
That's not the case in a cleaner environment, but it occurred in the more smog prone areas.
These new heavy duty diesel engines are very clean...in fact, the little APU engine (on-board generator) puts out more pollutants than the main engine does, per hour of operation.
The CARB standards have gotten very tight the last 10-15 years and it's not getting any better for petroleum burning engines there.
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It’s just the big Class A’s isn’t it? 5 miles /gallon rigs? Polluting the universe? And that’s not counting the Toad.
Past due for them hi $$$ peeps to downsize. They can get a compact EV or a bicycle and Walmart tents are cheap. Better yet a Lowe’s camo tarp.
Yep; lose the deesul pushers & Freeze dried food, too for em. Most of them could go a month without eating would do them good.
Walk, back pak & a tarp: back to the basix
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Past due for them hi $$$ peeps to downsize. They can get a compact EV or a bicycle and Walmart tents are cheap. Better yet a Lowe’s camo tarp.
Yep; lose the deesul pushers & Freeze dried food, too for em. Most of them could go a month without eating would do them good.
Walk, back pak & a tarp: back to the basix
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My 1 ton 5.9 12 valve Cummins/Dodge 4x4 truck got 24 mpg & even got just over 20 mpg towing/hauling 20,000# of equipment from Dayton with the OD off.
The pre-emissions diesels got much better fuel mileage. The newer ones with all the crap added...not so much.
This is yet another loss of your freedoms in this country. With their ready/ shoot/ aim mentality, they will quickly ruin the states even more.
CALIF CARB just passed a measure at 10PM on a Friday night to raise the already high gas prices by another $.65 per gallon on top of the $1.38 taxes they have in place.
You may not want or need a motor home like this but maybe someone else might but now can't. CA keeps digging a hole which is now a huge sink hole financially and losing tax payers every day. I've lived here all my life and my kids are close by with grand kids ( one due tomorrow) so unfortunately I choose to stay here, family over madness, but we would leave today if we could....This state is a mess..
CALIF CARB just passed a measure at 10PM on a Friday night to raise the already high gas prices by another $.65 per gallon on top of the $1.38 taxes they have in place.
You may not want or need a motor home like this but maybe someone else might but now can't. CA keeps digging a hole which is now a huge sink hole financially and losing tax payers every day. I've lived here all my life and my kids are close by with grand kids ( one due tomorrow) so unfortunately I choose to stay here, family over madness, but we would leave today if we could....This state is a mess..
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I hope all goes well & Congrats my friend!
twomountainlions
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He did not say Montana is cracking down on LLCs, he only said other states try to crack down on Montana LLC route. Montana loves LLCs.
twomountainlions
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Sinkhole is a good way to describe this state. I'm not even comfortable camping there anymore because of how crazy people are there and lack of gun carry rights encourages these behaviors and police loves to protect the criminals. Had crazy experience camping there lately and that in remote isolated places, like nut cases trying to camp right in my campsite in the middle of nowhere, while entire area was empty and got other spots. In Idaho they'd get shot probably.
Cy_5th
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So I just read this article
https://www.rv.com/rv/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-california-rv-ban/
I thought this was just for diesel.
My cousin through the grapevine I hear is going to get an RV. He is a travel nurse in CA. He probably is going with class B knowing him. But his dog is medium - large size he would need a C a think. He can afford new but will get a 24 or older If he has to because of the ban. Or travel nurse out of state and do register it that way according to the article.
This sucks. If this ban is say forever lol. For example when I retire 10 yrs from now. I can upgrade only to a used 24 or older motorhome.
https://www.rv.com/rv/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-california-rv-ban/
I thought this was just for diesel.
My cousin through the grapevine I hear is going to get an RV. He is a travel nurse in CA. He probably is going with class B knowing him. But his dog is medium - large size he would need a C a think. He can afford new but will get a 24 or older If he has to because of the ban. Or travel nurse out of state and do register it that way according to the article.
This sucks. If this ban is say forever lol. For example when I retire 10 yrs from now. I can upgrade only to a used 24 or older motorhome.
WandringKnight
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It's for builders, not owners.
Either way "don't do business with people who hate you. ". Or make your life difficult.
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It's for builders but affects buyers.
And the businesses around, employees, taxes collected, etc...huge down stream affect for many
Large RV owners pay lots in taxes - from payroll to state and local taxes. A big part of road maintenance is paid by the big rigs. They eat out a lot, attend sporting events, pay for premium campsites, pay for skilled labor, etc. They support all kinds of businesses and pay dearly to subsidize lots of others. I don't fit this profile, but it is accurate for the most part. I do have a large RV and a big diesel to tow it.
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RVMiles YouTube channel has been posting updates as he gets them.
twomountainlions
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I think a bit of sensationalism right now but it all should be resolved soon. My understanding it affects only new stuff and not even registration just CA dealers...can buy used or buy out of state...lots of battles related to EV nonsense ahead, one needs to get used to working around the gubimint stuff.
LargeMarge
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I think we ought to ban bureaucrats.
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Some folks call them 'bumblebrats', but that group are bolder than I, so I would never.
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And another thing.
Who else besides bumblebrats see our atmosphere as 'resources'.
I bet somebody in 'Human Resources' had a horridly-awful nightmare about air going around all unregulated and unregistered and free and eating too many carbs, and next morning, sharpened their favorite -- registered! regulated! -- Number Two pencil and scribbled a way to tax it.
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Hence, California Air Resources Bureaucrats.
Or bumblebrats.
Your choice.
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Some folks might say bumblebrats deserve a 'board' across the fanny.
I would never, of course, but some might.
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And speaking of complicating stuff just because you think you can get away with it:
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LargeMarge
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Joe, the wonderful and hilarious host of RVing With Joe, discusses the elimination of RecreateVehicles in his California home-town of San Rafael (just north of Frisco (now known as San Franeedle (motto : 'Watch Where You Step!'))).
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Apparently, RecreateVehicles interfere with pedestrian and emergency vehicle traffic, so they are !!! BANNED !!!.
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Of course, as always, if you buy a permit, those pedestrian and emergency vehicle interferences magically disappear.
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keyword : scam
twomountainlions
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RVs are banned in a lot of cities, in some big TX cities can not park on the street nor on private property
