Eggs - Do you refrigerate?

[Ken in Anaheim]

I kept 4 dozen in 80+ degree heat  8 weeks  and lost just 1. I coated them with mineral oil.

 

[Thirsty Boots Nomad]

I believe "wood ape" is now the politically correct term

Darn!!!  I'm always among the last to know; ... I thought the p/c term was still "great follicly (sp) enhanced bi-peds"

 

[Vagabound]

I'm posting this even though I don't know the details because it might ring a bell with somebody and lead to the answer.

There is a pretty famous but now out-of-print guide to seasteading. Can't remember the title. The author's first name might be Ken. Or maybe Penelope. Who knows. ;-) In any case, I remember that guy talking about coating the eggs with something, maybe wax, to extend their shelf life. 

Anybody have a clue what I'm talking about?

Tom

 

[Trebor English]

I remember that guy talking about coating the eggs with something, maybe wax, to extend their shelf life. 

Water glass, sodium silicate.  It works but mineral oil or vaseline work almost as well.  Waterglass can also be used to help clarify muddy water.

 

[highdesertranger]

back in the day before refrigeration they used liquid glass(Sodium Silicate Solution). as a side it will plug a blown head gasket, don't try it with out knowing what you are doing. highdesertranger

 

[WalkaboutTed]

I knew some boat people who would dip the eggs in paraffin for use dduring long passages without ice.

 

[TrainChaser]

I am not against Bigfoot. I am not saying they don't exist. I would like to meet one. But I don't believe that they roam the forests in vicious, salivating packs, looking for a poor little brainless human to eat raw. If I see one, I will advise them to cook them first. Germs, you know.

Re: recooking eggs... ??? I have been hard-cooking eggs for more than half a century, refrigerating them, and then eating them cold for a few days afterward. The thought of eating a warmed up hardcooked eggs is rather... icky.

 

[Boyntonstu]

Does this egg look appetizing?

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[meme]

As one put it, we're taught fear, period. BUT, there are differences & there's good luck, health of person too. I was even taught to wash my hands after touching an egg! Anyway, in the U.S. if I bought a refrigerated egg, I would refrigerate - if at ALL possible BUT I wouldn't lie & say I never have. Don't be paranoid, just be smart, listen to your instincts.

 

[mayble]

And from your FDA.gov source:

Serving
Follow these serving guidelines for eggs and egg dishes.

• Serve cooked eggs (such as hard-boiled eggs and fried eggs) and egg-containing foods (such as such as quiches and soufflés) immediately after cooking. Cooked eggs and egg dishes may be refrigerated for serving later but should be thoroughly reheated to 165° F before serving.
  
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  Again:  165* F !

that would make for some seriously disgusting deviled eggs

 

[mr_elijah_gardner]

Does this egg look appetizing?

No, No it does not. I don't consider myself a picky eater and I will generally eat anything. I would need some encouragement to try that.

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I had chickens growing up. One of my chores was to get the eggs before school. We never refrigerated them. They would sit in a bowl on the kitchen counter. I did this even with store bought eggs up until I met my wife who thought I was insane and insists they stay in the fridge.

 

[Vagabound]

I just had an interesting eggs-perience. Had some eggs in my ice chest for maybe a week, then they couldn't fit, so I took them out and put them on the counter. About a week later I noticed this odd stench. While searching, I came across the egg carton. One or more had become rotten.

I was surprised how fast that happened. Someone may have mentioned that if they had ever been refrigerated, they'll spoil faster once you take them out of refrigeration.

After that accidental experiment, I think I'm going to do some purposeful experiments as time goes by.

Tom

 

[trailsailor]

Egg shells are porous, when they come out of the hen the pores are filled with hen-goo and will last a long time not refrigerated. Commercial eggs are washed and refrigerated. If you want to keep commercial eggs non refrigerated then you need to refill the pores with something, easiest is plain old vegetable oil.

Float test rings a distant bell in my mind, gonna have to Google it to refresh my aging brain.

Lots of folks are selling eggs roadside these days. The best ones look dirty and little nasty because they haven't been washed, they will last the longest.

There is one 'rule' I've heard that says once refrigerated, keep refrigerated. But if you recoat with some kind of oil I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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[highdesertranger]

float test,
put the egg in enough water to submerge it,
if it floats it's bad
if it stays on the bottom it's good.
highdesertranger

 

[Scott7022]

Same thing my Mom would do to every egg she cooked HDR. She worked at a chicken farm when my father was overseas fighting in WW2.  I do the same and when I did it here, as my Russians preferred my Canadian BLIN CHIK KEE, over their usual fare (more like a crepe) they got all excited and I heard Babu along with a stream of fast Russian. When I asked them to slow down I understood that I had reminded them all what their grandmothers did.

I agree with the fear rant 100% No need to be unhygienic but no need to live in a PURELL world either.

African Egg story.

...We are given special permission to land in Maputo Mozambique. I had a very special visa at that time and we had a medical emergency onboard. Four actually, lol. So while the lads are at the hospital I go looking for lunch as we'd been in the bush for a month. I find a little cafe not far from the medical center, sit outside, because I stink, and order a coffee. The menu is in Portuguese, with no pictures. I recognize burger and do the price buy. The price buy is the most expensive should be the best burger the joint sells. It works most of the time. I point at the order when the waiter returns, and to my surprise he says in English; "Do you want fries with that?"
"You can speak English?"
"A little."
"Can I get a strawberry milkshake too?"
"Sure I'll send someone out for strawberries."

My Iridium block starts making noise and it is my number two, Sunday, telling me that two of the lads have to stay the night and the local government types are looking for me and suggest I call the Embassy. I tell Sunday to tell the locals where I am and to bring the number for the embassy when they come. The Special Police do me a favor and call the Canadian Embassy in Maputo and tell them where I am and head off to do what they do, leaving me alone in my cafe. My burger arrives and it is a marvel. Two patties, two colors of cheese, a hotdog and two fried eggs on top. A ranchers burger, straight out of vegas, in Mozambique. After a month of bushmeat and rice this is heaven. I chow into this banquet of gooey greatness and manage to get two thirds of it eaten. The milkshake came about halfway through the meal and it was fresh heaven.

The embassy man arrived halfway through my after dinner cigar. I knew it was "an embassy" guy for the same reasons everyone can tell an embassy guy. They just ain't right. He walks onto the deck and my waiter intercepts him. They have a brief discussion and then my waiter comes over and announces him and asks if I want him to wait till I am finished eating. I laughed and said it was ok to send him over.

He had several questions (official) that aren't part of this story. During these questions he keeps looking at the remains of my burger. So much so I feel I need to offer him.
"Are you hungry? I can get Sam (the waiter) to bring you a burger, they are very good."
"What, no I am fine. You ate that?"
"Ah yeah, well most of it."
"You are fucking crazy. The meat is still red, the eggs runny, and hotdogs are lips and assholes in the best countries. Was that a milkshake?" He said pointing to my empty pink glass.
"Yeah. It was good fresh strawberries from the market."
"Mr. Covey (I had told him Scott was fine but... Embassy type) they do not pasteurize or sterilize the milk in this country. That is a hamburger so they used ground PORK, not beef, and the eggs need to be cooked hard or hard boiled to be safe. You are going to get very sick."
Sam was standing nearby and rolled his eyes at the statement.
"Sam could you get me a glass of water, tap is fine." I said, and turned back to the Embassy guy. "Did you need anything else from me?"

He left shaking his head. To be honest I did get a little queasy, and the undercooked pork did come to mind, but it also could of been the rich diet after the bush. I didn't get ill, and I didn't die.

Here in Russia the eggs come unwashed. Still a little poopy are the types I buy. They are the freshest and sell out the fastest. But they are a day or two out of the chicken. The processed "clean eggs" are a week at most out of the chicken. At home in Canada the Vancouver Organic specialist brag about being only a week old. Safeway employee friend said the eggs are around three weeks old. Pork is killed Sunday and sold by Friday, outside of big cities. I think what gets introduced intravenously, or in the feed is of more of a concern than how long the eggs stays in the ambient temperature air.

But I still water test them....

 

[Linda Cripple-Creek]

@ Wabbit (et al). If you can get the eggs from straight under the hen, i.e. never been in a fridge, they last a long long time unrefrigerated. But ... store-bought eggs have already been refrigerated, so they won't keep nearly as long unless you refrigerate them. But that's only important if you're trying to keep them till next Easter. just sayin'. I did see a video about a guy who kept his in a jar of limewater. I think those babies were still good after 6 months!

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[KMAG YOYO]

A friend of ours had spent some time on Alaskan salmon boats. She swore they kept eggs 3 months unrefrigerated on the boat...Now maybe she misspoke, or my memory has played a trick on me (it was about 10 years ago), or it was simply a fisherman's natural penchant for exaggeration...but I was incredulous even if she meant 3 weeks. I suppose a salmon boat in Alaska isn't the warmest place, so the eggs might have been quite a bit cooler than room temp. It's also possible they had a source for unwashed eggs at the time.

 

[TrainChaser]

I've eaten unrefrigerated eggs. I've eaten eggs that were washed and refrigerated for a month. When I hard-cook an egg and the shell comes off easily, I know it's at least 1 to 2 weeks old. I eat farm eggs. I eat store eggs.

MY main question is: if you CAN refrigerate eggs, WHY DON'T YOU?

 

[wasanah2]

I've eaten unrefrigerated eggs.  I've eaten eggs that were washed and refrigerated for a month.  When I hard-cook an egg and the shell comes off easily, I know it's at least 1 to 2 weeks old.  I eat farm eggs.  I eat store eggs.

MY main question is:  if you CAN refrigerate eggs, WHY DON'T YOU?

And that begs the question, WHY REFRIGERATE and take up limited space if it's unnecessary?

 

[highdesertranger]

that's is exactly why I don't refrigerate my eggs. it takes to much refrigerator space. highdesertranger