Milk is milk. Right?! Maybe not.

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maki2 said:
my friend had milk digestion issues, he put apple juice on his cereal. I tried it, not bad at all, good on hot oatmeal too.

Alas, I have issues with pome fruits as well. I've never been formally diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Syndrome, but following a low FODMAPs diet works, so I think that's what I have. Yes, it sucks to be me sometimes - what I wouldn't give to be able to eat a grilled cheese sandwich! - but the world is full of good things to eat, so I make the best of it.
 
I've never understood how a mammal can be lactose intolerant. It seems to me one would never survive infancy that way. But it happens. I hate to hear that though. I take milk and cheese for granted I guess even though I dont eat a ton of dairy.

Fun fact I'm allergic to tartaric, fumaric, and malic acid.

Malic I'm just overly sensitive to but the other 2 leave blisters in my mouth like it was battery acid. I cant eat sour patch kids, most any sour candy, persimmons, pickled peppers from blimpie, or chewable penicillin. Its sucks but there it is.
 
I'm 100% lactose intolerant. If I just drive by a cow I can't take a dump for two days. I'm way beyond the typical diarrhea that usually results with most people.


That said, I've been drinking soy milk for about 15 years. I was drinking the average of 1/2 gallon a day. I bought the Whynter 62DZ fridge because I knew I'd need the room to store a bunch of it. I did a little experiment and loaded it up with soy and just kept it in the fridge for a couple weeks. The cardboard cartons slowly disintegrated and started leaking and that happened with just minimal driving on asphalt roads. I'm sure it would have been worse on bumpy dirt roads.  

Since then I've been able to cut back to 3 half gallons a week, down from seven. I want to cut back even further as I can see it will be a real pain in the butt chasing grocery stores if I don't..
 
XERTYX said:
I've never understood how a mammal can be lactose intolerant. It seems to me one would never survive infancy that way.


Time for some sciencey stuff ........

Yes, all mammals when born have an enzyme that breaks down and digests lactose, which is what allows them to live on mother's milk. But once the youngling mammal is weaned and begins eating solid food on its own, the gene which produces this enzyme becomes inactive, since it is no longer needed. So, all adult mammals are naturally lactose-intolerant and cannot properly digest milk. This is true of humans too.

BUT

Thousands of years ago, in specific geographic areas where agriculture had been established and humans had begun raising cows and goats, mutations appeared in which the gene for the lactose-digesting enzyme failed to switch off, and in these areas (particularly in Europe and parts of Africa) humans were able to digest milk lactose for their entire lives. So, most people who have European or east African ancestry have inherited this mutant gene and can digest milk as adults. But most other humans, from areas like Asia or the rest of Africa, do NOT have this mutant gene, and although they can digest milk as an infant, they become lactose-intolerant as adults once their lactose-enzyme gene switches off.

Is "science" cool, or what?  :)

EDIT: Paragraphs, dammit.....
 
I'd also like to add to Lenny's awesome post that not only are we not cows, goats. etc. but the growth hormones and other goodies available in colostrum aren't necessary once weaned. Yes I am a diary hypocrite! I like root beer floats!

The China Study is an awesome read for those interested in getting down to even deeper science about dairy and health issues.
 
MotorVation said:
The cardboard cartons slowly disintegrated and started leaking and that happened with just minimal driving on asphalt roads. I'm sure it would have been worse on bumpy dirt roads.  
So transfer it into a plastic bottle. That is what I do because the paper based milk cartons don't do well standing in the moisture in a 12V top loading fridge. They always get condensation inside of them, that is the nature of the machine. It is not like your household fridges that suck the moisture out of stuff so much that you need to have special drawers to keep the produce from drying out.
 
Actually, a few humans are born unable to digest milk - I know this because my sister was born that way (dunno whether it was lactose she couldn't digest). She lost a good portion of her birth weight until she was diagnosed and put on soy milk.

In a "natural" state, babies like her would die.
 
^^ Yes, some folks get a new mutation that undoes the previous one.

It is not all that common though.
 
I'm no longer using milk - though occasionally will use almond milk. Once I start traveling I'll probably cut it out of my diet. I've already stopped drinking coffee so don't need milk/cream for that. I don't eat cereal. I can't think of anything I'd want milk for.

For 3+1/2 years I had no car and no easy access to a store, so I bought milk online at Amazon in 8-ounce child size cartons... shelf stable & organic.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LKVB52/ - for example.
You can get plain, chocolate, or vanilla flavors.
 
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