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Zil

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Reference shogun's thread. I'm going away for a while to think this (forum) over for a while. I thought it was a fair question based on the whole of the conversation. Trying to gain more incite into the unsolvable problem.
Why ask for help if there are nothing but unmentioned reasons the advice will not work.
So I feel all are friends here, but I got to go. To much cult.
 
I'm sorry to see you leave, even if for a little bit Zil. I consider vandwellers my community-of-choice. You all "get me." You will be missed. But, I don't consider us a cult, even remotely. A "cult" is a religious organization, usually with blind allegiance to a leader. So, the term "cult" just doesn't fit.

Also, I'm glad you referenced Shogun's goodbye thread, I especially concur with Seraphim's post there(https://vanlivingforum.com/showthread.php?tid=11064&pid=103923#pid103923). Even with my analytical bent, I appreciate kindness over logic in those I call my friends.

Suanne ... who prefers hellos
 
This is similar to the case of the political discussion threads--which were mostly banned--because Bob and the forum moderators want this to be a friendly, supportive forum.
 
PastTense: friendly, supportive forum

Jean: How friendly is it to support choices/attitudes that you are pretty sure will lead to harm for the person making them or others affected by them? Are all choices/attitudes equal? Should all choices/attitudes be supported and encouraged? Aren't we all adults with experience in life and with what various choices/attitudes will lead to?
 
Clarification for me: I strive to support the person even when I don't support their choices. And when I share my opinion about their choices, I hope to do it as a friend, in kind ways. This is how I want to be treated.

Mods: I know we are again going off topic from saying goodbye to Zil ... so, remove this post if you need to.
 
Not so sure about it being off topic. It does address the reason Zil is leaving. There seems to be a disagree about whether the original question was valid. I did not find asking the question while providing evidence to support the original questioner ' s confusion and reason for asking to be out of line or disrespectful. Others did.
 
Zil, you've helped me a couple of times with mechanical questions so I'll say thanks and all the best.

In the end, more and more I think most sites like this best serve in that regard: mechanical/technical topics with explicit questions to tap the experience of others who may have already undertaken specific task.
 
AltTransBikes said:
In the end, more and more I think most sites like this best serve in that regard: mechanical/technical topics with explicit questions to tap the experience of others who may have already undertaken specific task.

You make a good point for a men only sub forum, where hormonal spikes don’t come into play.
 
Amazing to see censorship......even more sadness to see friends go for that reason...
 
Mr.LooRead said:
You make a good point for a men only sub forum, where hormonal spikes don’t come into play.

You are offending me as I'm already hormonally discriminated against by being a guy.
 
Mr.LooRead said:
You make a good point for a men only sub forum, where hormonal spikes don’t come into play.

This is a very sexist statement and attitude. But there is a woman's forum, you say? That's different! :)
 
There was a guy's topic thread a while ago. The subject matter seemed...uh...limited. (Yes, I peeked. Didn't you ever want to see inside the girl's bathroom in school?)
 
In the final analysis, this place ain't a clubhouse where we get to elect the club president and have a say in how the club is run.

This is Bob's forum, and he gets to play benevolent dictator and make whatever rules he likes.

You're either ok with that, and stay, or you're not, and you leave.

Zil, I always found you helpful, and I hope that after you think things over a bit, you decide to come back. If not, good luck to you.

Regards
John
 
yes zil I have always enjoyed your posts, so I am sad you are leaving. hope you decide to come back. highdesertranger
 
In this house, the rules are very similar to the house we all grew up in:

No fighting!
Play nice.
No name calling!
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
Take care of your brother.

It's our mamas rules. I think they're good ones. :)
Bob
 
Online culture is so funny. Good by is a real thing??? There are literally 1000 more forums five seconds away. Just follow the rules for each and make use of it. If you need the "have to correct them !!" forum just take five seconds to go to that other site. If you get grumpy just get a new email address and create a nice version. -- to me bob is the only real person as he is manager superuser. -- though I do like zil posts. Maybe come back as liz instead? Lol.
 
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