Food on the Table, Gas in the Tank

[buckwilk]

Obviously there's something wrong with me because I don't get this harping and beating this dead horses carcass. I'm not sure what those of you pushing your view that Bob is doing the people who come here a disservice want. How many ways can a man explain his point of view? What is it exactly you want. We get that you don't agree with everything the man says, hell, I don't either. A reasonable man states his point of view and then moves on. I'm not sure of your motives, but I am sure they aren't in the interest of anyone here. A couple of you have seized on a point you disagree with Bob about and you are bound and determined to belabor it to death. He has spent years and untold hours building and shaping an idea that hundreds if not thousands agree with, that you have managed to single out something to disagree so loudly with is not any great accomplishment. We've heard what you think, kindly put it to bed. Good night.

By the way a Jack London may very well be hanging around here !

 

[lterry]

Stop with your opinions, stop with your encouragement!
Right?
If your opinion is different than mine, then you need to change it.
Right?
No.

When a "dreamer" is on a thread asking about taking the leap, people are free to post their opinions or advice, for or against the leap. If a person sees that the majority of the advice isn't good (in their opinion), that person can jump on the thread and play devil's advocate. Example: "Or a different option is to make a plan, save money, and make sure..., etc."
But to continue saying that some people are misleading naive dreamers, and that they need to stop offering opinions...I don't see how that is okay.
If they are continuously telling everyone to hook the wrong cables up to the battery thereby ruining everyone's stuff, then I see where a person may be need to say: Hey, why do you keep having people blow up their batteries/systems? That's not nice.
However, there is no right or wrong answer in whether or not to take a leap into something. Some leaps fail, some don't. Sometimes a plan fails. Sometimes it's luck, and sometimes people just know how to land on their feet no matter what, no matter their trade or skill levels. It's called learning.
Two of the best things I've done in my life were a leap, not one bit of planning, not one bit of saving. Oops! Today one of my "leaps" thanked me for being her mother, and for being a great role model, and for being a dreamer.

The truth is it's totally possible that a young man or woman can buy a cheap van, hit the road, find temp work, wait tables, and he or she can survive. And thrive.
Some of us who have let life pass us by don't like to admit that, but it's true.

 

[gcal]

Obviously there's something wrong with me because I don't get this harping and beating thipeopleorses carcass. I'm not sure what thospeople herrof you pushing your view that Bob is doing the peincorrect impression of his stance and I ome here a disservice want. How many ways can a man explain his point of view? What is it exactly you want. We get that you don't agree with evercompletebody of thoughteither. A reasonable man states his point of view and then moves on. I'm not sure of your motives, but I am sure they aoint you disagree with Bob about and you are boam not und and determined to belabor it to death. He has spent years and untold hours building and shaping an idea that hundreds if not thousands agree with, that you have managed to single out something to disagree so loudly with is not any great accomplishment. We've heard what you think, kindly put it to bed. Good night.

By the way a Jack London may very well be hanging around here !

Bob's voice is probably the most influential here. He stated that he does not intend to give the impression that he sometimes gives. He asked for an explanation of why some of us were getting an inccorrect impression and I  gave him mine. that is not harping it is complying with his request. Yes, he has spent years building and shaping and communicating his ideas. He holds this complete body of thought in his head. I am sure that there is a pretty complete explanation of his complete thoughts on his blog and in his book.  But not everyone reads the entire content of his blog and book. I know that i did not. So, that portion of people here are not familiar with the entirety of it. When one point is brought up with no qualifiers, that is what is focused on. 

You asked what people wanted. I will comply with what I want. I would like him to remember how influential his voice is to new impressionable people who come here and to remember that they will often not be familiar with the entirity of his thoughts.

 

[gcal]

PS: Re Jack London (or Jack Kerouac or Mark Twain) here, talking about solar panels and Mr Buddy heaters and the other mundane topics. Nope. It might be so, but I can't wrap my mind around it.

 

[Theadyn]

If people do come here with a dream...  then decide to only read into it what they want to see, so be it.  Who are we to judge the ones that jump off into the deep end without planning.  Then again, the next person can come here and read everything on here and get stuck planning so much they are dead in the ground before they implement it, so be it.  No one is the same.   I may not read things on here the same as the next person.  We are all allowed to be different.  Everyone has choices.
There is so much knowledge on here!!   It's up to each individual, in their own lives, to decide how to use it.     I, for one, am extremely glad for the information found on this site.  (Thank you Bob!!)



Now...  Back to the subject of keeping food in the belly and gas in the tank!!!!  


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BTW..  my hubby was dead at 40, having worked since he was 9 years old.   So I know how limited life can be first hand.  I come here to find information on how I can knowledgeably learn how to 'live' this alternative way.  

 

[GotSmart]

PS: Re Jack London (or Jack Kerouac or Mark Twain) here, talking about solar panels and Mr Buddy heaters and the other mundane topics. Nope. It might be so, but I can't wrap my mind around it.

They were humans who traveled.  I can completely see that!

 

[akrvbob]

you know if your 25 and healthy and life sucks where you are and you would like to go to the keys and try to make it as a fisherman,i say go for it,hightop van with enough gas to get you there,a couple loaves of bread,bologna,mustard and a case of gatoraid,walk up and down the docks telling everyone you will work your ass off for money

I gotta agree! When you're young is when you can take those risks! The worst thing that can happen is you have all kinds of problems--so what? Lets say that happens, you'll end up with a bunch of stories that you treasure the rest of your life! We always look back at the rough times with the most gusto and the biggest smile!!

My friend James and I just did that. We were camped in Sedona and it was getting cold. There was a forecast for a big storm so really quick we started breaking camp and almost got done. The last hour the skies opened up and dumped a downpour on us and we finished in a really cold rain and were both sopping wet. We drove all the way to Phoenix with the heaters on and only when we made the final descent into the phoenix valley did we finally warm up.

But you know what, we told that story like it was the best memory we ever had, big smiles, lots of gestures. Good times!!!

Do you ever look back and tell the stories of sitting in your cubicle or factory floor all day fighting with the boss, deadlines  and coworkers? Probably not, and if you do its with a snarl and a growl of hatred and rarely with a smile. 

What kind of memories do you want to die with? Better start making them right now!
Bob

 

[akrvbob]

Bob's voice is probably the most influential here. He stated that he does not intend to give the impression that he sometimes gives. He asked for an explanation of why some of us were getting an inccorrect impression and I  gave him mine. that is not harping it is complying with his request. Yes, he has spent years building and shaping and communicating his ideas. He holds this complete body of thought in his head. I am sure that there is a pretty complete explanation of his complete thoughts on his blog and in his book.  But not everyone reads the entire content of his blog and book. I know that i did not. So, that portion of people here are not familiar with the entirety of it. When one point is brought up with no qualifiers, that is what is focused on. 

You asked what people wanted. I will comply with what I want. I would like him to remember how influential his voice is to new impressionable people who come here and to remember that they will often not be familiar with the entirity of his thoughts.

Actually I think you make a very good point and I would even agree that often I get so wrapped up in my passion that I do give the wrong impression.

I'm grateful for an a reasoned voice making a very good point.

Thank you!!  :shy:

Bob

 

[akrvbob]

PS: Re Jack London (or Jack Kerouac or Mark Twain) here, talking about solar panels and Mr Buddy heaters and the other mundane topics. Nope. It might be so, but I can't wrap my mind around it.

I'm not sure I agree about that. Jack London took a steamer to the Klondike which was the most advanced technology of the time. He rode the rails as a tramp, which was also the most advanced technology of the time. As a child he shoveled coal into the coal fired generators that made electricity, the most advanced technology of the time.

It's the act of going into the unknown and embracing the risk that made them each who they were. It had nothing to do with technology.

The great heros of our day who were known to have the right stuff rode jet engines and rockets and, yes, even used solar panels. Tomorrows heros will got to Mars with incredible technology--and they will still be real heros.

Adventure and being a nomad is an attitude and has nothing to do with using or not using technology.
Bob

 

[planet-beaver]

I know one thing, reading Bob's blog will ruin us financially. I knew nothing about simple living till we saw the documentary Without Bounds and found Bob's forum. Since then my wife retired at 36 and I got 7-8 month to go out at 41. We both have, had corporate management jobs with high salaries and if we had continue to work till 59.5 we would have well over 4 million in retirement. Last year we bought a van and did six 1-2 week long trips so far and loving it. Heading for AZ in January to see some of you guys. My job doubled my vacation to 8 weeks because I wanted to quit to travel but I'm still leaving (they just don't know it yet). So now we decided to ditch our 150k jobs, home, everything we own and live in poverty. Thanks Bob.

 

[akrvbob]

I never know when someone pulls into camp if they are going to profusely thank me, or punch me in the nose!!

So far no one has punched me in the nose! Hopefully you won't either!
Bob

 

[planet-beaver]

I never know when someone pulls into camp if they are going to profusely thank me, or punch me in the nose!!

So far no one has punched me in the nose! Hopefully you won't either!
Bob

Nothing but love and hugs and more hugs. OK maybe just a hand shake from me. Wife, well she is the crazy one but with really weak upper body.

 

[akrvbob]

Nothing but love and hugs and more hugs. OK maybe just a hand shake from me. Wife, well she is the crazy one but with really weak upper body.

Well, if you later decide someone needs to punch me, let it be her!
Bob