I would like to remind everyone that many public libraries offer you free internet access to newspaper articles through your library card service. If you are concerned about keeping up to date and want to read some of the Covid 19 articles that you cant access online without paying perhaps that might be an affordable option you could check out.
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Wuhan ended its lockdown today after .... 76 days, 11 weeks, almost 3 months. But with some restrictions still in place. Life is not the same as before.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...uhans-coronavirus-lockdown-ends-after-76-days
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-lockdown-lifted-intl-hnk/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...uhans-coronavirus-lockdown-ends-after-76-days
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-lockdown-lifted-intl-hnk/index.html
The New York Times newspaper just announced that most of the Covid 19 articles in the paper are now free to read online at their website.
Last week the Seattle Times did the same thing, free reading of Covid 19 articles.
Remember you won't be able see for free all the news articles in the papers, just the ones they feel like making public regarding Covid 19 coverage.
Naturally you will get lots of advertising along with the stories.
Last week the Seattle Times did the same thing, free reading of Covid 19 articles.
Remember you won't be able see for free all the news articles in the papers, just the ones they feel like making public regarding Covid 19 coverage.
Naturally you will get lots of advertising along with the stories.
crofter
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Wal mart in AZ is engaging in price gouging. Sure they will sell you one package of paper product at 4 times what you bought it for in January before all this started.
I cannot prove they planned this, but the profiteering is happening today at Wal mart in Arizona. And staff are as rude as ever, nothing new there. -crofter
I cannot prove they planned this, but the profiteering is happening today at Wal mart in Arizona. And staff are as rude as ever, nothing new there. -crofter
Hmmm, that doesn't sound good. I'm surprised stores would be doing this ... or maybe not.
FWIW, I just now finished placing an online order with Walmart. Free home delivery, but it won't arrive until next Thursday, April 16. They don't do anything fresh, only canned, and you can't always get exactly what you want. Didn't try to order any paper.
The prices were regular and not inflated, although on many items you have to order quantity 4. But then, realistically we need to be looking at this mess going on for another couple of months, at least.
FWIW, I just now finished placing an online order with Walmart. Free home delivery, but it won't arrive until next Thursday, April 16. They don't do anything fresh, only canned, and you can't always get exactly what you want. Didn't try to order any paper.
The prices were regular and not inflated, although on many items you have to order quantity 4. But then, realistically we need to be looking at this mess going on for another couple of months, at least.
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To end my foray to wmart on a positive note, after haggling with the pharmacy for two plus hours I was able to pay extra for drugs and get it all in one trip.
I wore a mask the whole time and most other shoppers avoided me. Cool. About half the shoppers wore masks.
And I was able to get a case of "Its-it" bars and yes we had ice cream this afternoon, and more in the freezer.
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I wore a mask the whole time and most other shoppers avoided me. Cool. About half the shoppers wore masks.
And I was able to get a case of "Its-it" bars and yes we had ice cream this afternoon, and more in the freezer.
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crofter
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How to clean a mask??
I heard on tv about hospital staff cleaning their masks with peroxide and re using them.
I cleaned my mask by spraying down both sides with kaboom peroxide cleaner. Do I rinse this out then, or just dry the mask before wearing it again?
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I heard on tv about hospital staff cleaning their masks with peroxide and re using them.
I cleaned my mask by spraying down both sides with kaboom peroxide cleaner. Do I rinse this out then, or just dry the mask before wearing it again?
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Instant karma. Wmart faces consequences for their lack of action resulting in death.
Based on my experience at the unemployment department, I will have to say that Wmart employees are the most hardworking and loyal, and get treated the worst by their employer. The employees deserve better. -crofter
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wal...lawsuit-employee-dies-covid/story?id=70040675
Mod edit, the above link takes you to an ABC news report about Walmart being sued for wrongful death because employees got the virus.
we need a description of all links.
Based on my experience at the unemployment department, I will have to say that Wmart employees are the most hardworking and loyal, and get treated the worst by their employer. The employees deserve better. -crofter
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wal...lawsuit-employee-dies-covid/story?id=70040675
Mod edit, the above link takes you to an ABC news report about Walmart being sued for wrongful death because employees got the virus.
we need a description of all links.
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crofter said:
In answer to my question, I should have soaked my used mask in 25% bleach solution (1part bleach to 3 parts water) for one hour. Then I should have rinsed it and hung it to dry. -crofter
Article on various ways to clean a face mask
https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241798621.html
I would read the label carefully on anything you’re going to use to clean a mask, lest it be toxic if ingested or irritate your skin.
I snagged a single box of face masks at Walgreens late in January, and wore one to the grocery store the other day.
I just left it in my car to use next time I’m out, figuring anything that may have adhered to it will be long since dead before I go out again.
Going out every 5-7 days, which may still be too often.
I snagged a single box of face masks at Walgreens late in January, and wore one to the grocery store the other day.
I just left it in my car to use next time I’m out, figuring anything that may have adhered to it will be long since dead before I go out again.
Going out every 5-7 days, which may still be too often.
There is a peroxide vaporized fume system in use in some areas for sterilizing mask such as the N95. That is very different than cleaning a mask with peroxide liquid.crofter said:
I have an N95 mask around but as I social isolate there is enough time between wearings that I don't need to do anything to it other than set it aside for any virus to die off naturally.
Kaboom peroxide cleaner is not suitable or needed. It is made for cleaning hard surfaces in a bathroom such as a shower or bathtub that can be rinsed off. It is not for cleaning articles of clothing.
The Covid 19 virus is not long lived on fabric surfaces. Just have several mask and rotate using them. Two or three will do if you are only going out to shop once a week.
But if you are using a cloth mask you can hand wash it and let it dry after every trip. Just use diluted bleach water and a small amount of soap for cloth mask washing. Let it soak for 5 minutes or so then rinse several times to remove the soap and bleach sollution. Bleach is a very affordable and cost effective disinfectant. That mask won't be getting so dirty that you need to do a lot of hard scrubbing to them. You only need to wear them where there are other people around that might come closer to you than 6 feet. Having two or three cloth mask should be sufficient to rotate between them so that you always have a clean one on hand.
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How about popping a cloth mask in a Pressure Cooker? Placed on a trivet out of liquid, home pressure cookers can reach Autoclave temperatures above 121 Degrees C.
My planned scheme has 4 parts:
1. wipe down while still wearing the mask.
2. then, disinfect using bleach solution or 70% IPA.
3. then, wash the mask with soap and hot water.
4. use my hot air gun, normally used for heat-shrink tubing.
If that sounds like overkill, then good for me. I had thought about nuking the mask in the microwave, but then I don't want it near to my cooking area.
OTOH, being in the high-risk group, I've also not gone out for 3 weeks, and have placed home-delivery orders from both Smith's and Walmart. Smith's will do fresh and frozen items, since they use Instacart people. Walmart only does non-perishables delivery.
I just saw on the news, local people have started a website showing the 100 or so local restaurants who are providing take-out service. Good idea.
1. wipe down while still wearing the mask.
2. then, disinfect using bleach solution or 70% IPA.
3. then, wash the mask with soap and hot water.
4. use my hot air gun, normally used for heat-shrink tubing.
If that sounds like overkill, then good for me. I had thought about nuking the mask in the microwave, but then I don't want it near to my cooking area.
OTOH, being in the high-risk group, I've also not gone out for 3 weeks, and have placed home-delivery orders from both Smith's and Walmart. Smith's will do fresh and frozen items, since they use Instacart people. Walmart only does non-perishables delivery.
I just saw on the news, local people have started a website showing the 100 or so local restaurants who are providing take-out service. Good idea.
Life in Wuhan after the 3 month lockdown ends ... different.
https://www.marketplace.org/2020/04/09/wuhan-returns-after-covid19-lockdown/
https://www.marketplace.org/2020/04/09/wuhan-returns-after-covid19-lockdown/
CDC says 140* will kill Covid19 so a heat gun works by itself or throw the mask in a clothes dryer for a few minutes, dryers run from 140 -150* on high heat.
Another way is leave your mask on the front seat of the vehicle for an hour in the sun. UV kills this virus as well as many others.
Another way is leave your mask on the front seat of the vehicle for an hour in the sun. UV kills this virus as well as many others.
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Ticklebellly said:
That’s a good idea. I recently put items in a black trash bag with hot water and dawn soap and set it out on the sun. I’ll rinse items and let them dry in sun.
Also thought about zapping in the microwave for a minute or two using a microwave safe container and lid w solution of dawn and water.
Heard the Covid molecule has an oily protein exterior... Just what I heard. You’ll have to research yourself. I can’t confirm it. That being said... I don’t of anything better than dawn for breaking up oil.
Lots of overkill thinking about mask cleaning going on here. If you are using a cloth face mask a simple washing in soap and water is sufficient to kill any virus that got onto the mask. Just as soap and water will kill it on your hands or surfaces. You can even wash and reuse your disposable gloves if they have not been torn or holed.
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IMHO, this will not be over soon with the infection risk continuing on, unknown and unseen for to asympmatics, for months to come since no widespread testing will be coming based upon present reality. In my state they advise not to go to the hospital and you can not get tested. They're requiring that you phone a 1800 number first to determine if and when to test you.
Masks and self isolation will be the 2 main personal methods that we will have available.
Maki had an excellent post on mask fabrication and links that should be transferred here I think.
To continue my previous NYT link which was not available directly, here is the gist of it:
Dr. Wang’s group also found that when certain common fabrics were used, two layers offered far less protection than four layers. A 600 thread count pillow case captured just 22 percent of particles when doubled, but four layers captured nearly 60 percent. A thick woolen yarn scarf filtered 21 percent of particles in two layers, and 48.8 percent in four layers. A 100 percent cotton bandanna did the worst, capturing only 18.2 percent when doubled, and just 19.5 percent in four layers. The group also tested Brew Rite and Natural Brew basket-style coffee filters, which, when stacked in three layers, showed 40 to 50 percent filtration efficiency — but they were less breathable than other options.
Dr. Wang’s group tested two types of air filters. An allergy-reduction HVAC filter worked the best, capturing 89 percent of particles with one layer and 94 percent with two layers. A furnace filter captured 75 percent with two layers, but required six layers to achieve 95 percent. To find a filter similar to those tested, look for a minimum efficiency reporting value (MERV) rating of 12 or higher or a microparticle performance rating of 1900 or higher. The problem with air filters is that they potentially could shed small fibers that would be risky to inhale. So if you want to use a filter, you need to sandwich the filter between two layers of cotton fabric. Dr. Wang said one of his grad students made his own mask by following the instructions in the C.D.C. video, but adding several layers of filter material inside a bandanna
Masks and self isolation will be the 2 main personal methods that we will have available.
Maki had an excellent post on mask fabrication and links that should be transferred here I think.
To continue my previous NYT link which was not available directly, here is the gist of it:
Dr. Wang’s group also found that when certain common fabrics were used, two layers offered far less protection than four layers. A 600 thread count pillow case captured just 22 percent of particles when doubled, but four layers captured nearly 60 percent. A thick woolen yarn scarf filtered 21 percent of particles in two layers, and 48.8 percent in four layers. A 100 percent cotton bandanna did the worst, capturing only 18.2 percent when doubled, and just 19.5 percent in four layers. The group also tested Brew Rite and Natural Brew basket-style coffee filters, which, when stacked in three layers, showed 40 to 50 percent filtration efficiency — but they were less breathable than other options.
Dr. Wang’s group tested two types of air filters. An allergy-reduction HVAC filter worked the best, capturing 89 percent of particles with one layer and 94 percent with two layers. A furnace filter captured 75 percent with two layers, but required six layers to achieve 95 percent. To find a filter similar to those tested, look for a minimum efficiency reporting value (MERV) rating of 12 or higher or a microparticle performance rating of 1900 or higher. The problem with air filters is that they potentially could shed small fibers that would be risky to inhale. So if you want to use a filter, you need to sandwich the filter between two layers of cotton fabric. Dr. Wang said one of his grad students made his own mask by following the instructions in the C.D.C. video, but adding several layers of filter material inside a bandanna
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Not a hot spot. -crofter
Description of link: from monitoring data, Yuma county is not a hot spot. Residents staying home consistently, with a Bplus score by the end of the week. Thank you everyone who is doing this. Hospital motto: ..."together we can do so much."
https://kyma.com/news/2020/04/09/study-yuma-county-ranks-highest-for-social-distancing/
Description of link: from monitoring data, Yuma county is not a hot spot. Residents staying home consistently, with a Bplus score by the end of the week. Thank you everyone who is doing this. Hospital motto: ..."together we can do so much."
https://kyma.com/news/2020/04/09/study-yuma-county-ranks-highest-for-social-distancing/
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