cheap land?

[izifaddag]

We bought some super cheap land in eastern Washington state ($30 a year in taxes on 30 acres!)

We just put another pole barn on it (first one we built ourselves, open side 24 x 40 x 16 feet high for tall RV), second one we had built 30x40 metal enclosed with a concrete floor.

I am a big fan of cheap land!

I love that barn, what a great idea.

 

[izifaddag]

Maybe hang in there till the fall, around mid-September or so and, depending on government financing and pandemic effects, head on down to the LTVAs (Long Term Visitor Area, part of the BLM system) in southern Arizona around Quartzsite, as mentioned earlier in the thread.

For $180 you get about 7 months of land use, to park and live in your rig. Water supplies and trash dumps are nearby, as well as entertainment and events all season long. Winters in the Quartzsite area are mild to warmish most of the time. The rest of the year, the warm months, you could head north to forest land or rent a spot somewhere with full-hookups if needed.

I just wanted to add that one of the reasons I like your idea so much is the community. I really like the idea of similar minded people hanging out, keeping each other company, having something to eat and maybe a beer. I have spent over a decade isolated and making some friends would be really nice. I am told it is easy to be sociable at Quartszite. An opportunity to meet new people in a safe environment. I like it.

 

[LoveCareThinkDo]

I recently saw a sign of of 95, in Nevada, for a website called desertacreage.com. they've got some cheap land. But few are under $10k. There's a 20 acre, off-grid parcel for $9,500, about 20 minutes west of Winnemucca, NV.

 

[Qxxx]

Panda and some friends bought 40 acres near Williams AZ, dividing it 20-10-10. A number of youtubers who have been on the road constantly for several years are wanting home bases, even ones who travel in "real" RVs, like Class-C and cab over pickup campers. And that guy jamie did so back east. I don't know any details.

 

[bullfrog]

One of the biggest problems for me is I start to collect stuff, build stuff and fix stuff. Pretty soon I stay in place so I can take care of all the stuff. I'm having a hard enough time keeping room enough for sleeping without moving stuff. I tell you stuff can flat wear you down! I'm trying to make my home base a dumpster!

 

[Qxxx]

Frog, you might check out HDR's new trailer to help solve yer problem. For my part, I keep revising my van layout, so I can pack even "more" stuff in there on each trip. Got stuff piled to the ceiling now. All the comforts of home. I put in a rear-view camera because I cannot see over the piles of stuff now. So anymore I have to live in the tent outside, and I just bought an even bigger tent, 20' by 10'.

 

[bullfrog]

Ain't no easy fix for me! Thought I had it beat when I sold everything and bought a motor home but ended up stripping out all but the driver's seat in an old Honda Civic and filling it full of tools as well as having my wife drive a second old Honda Civic full of stuff. Now I'm on about my third attempt in 15 years with an old Suburban pulling a half camper/half flatbed trailer with the Samurai on the flatbed with her refusing to give up her old Sequoia. I came close last time with my old Jeep truck camper flat towing the Samurai but my wife's ankle wouldn't let her climb the steps and I got tired of all the maintenance, I still got radiators to put in vehicles I barely drive! Good thing I still have storage 700 miles away! LOL!!! By the way my 10 x 14 Kodiak tent is still in the truck camper if you need more storage!

 

[Qxxx]

LOL, good story Frog, yer an example for all of us,  :angel:.
10x14 in addition to 10x20, that would be very cool. Hmmm .... let's see.

 

[desert_sailing]

There is plenty of cheap land around Williams and Ashfork, AZ. 20K for 40cres or smaller lots 1-2 acres for about 3-4K.

WOW you are hitting them out of the park Sofi with all the great tips!

I just got off a 45 minute call with Coconino County and while it may be a bit cold in the winter..  most of the county is at 7000 feet they are very open to alternate building.

They have a department called the sustainable building division. I am posting the link here.  https://www.coconino.az.gov/625/Sustainable-Building-Program On the left are the sub menus. Resources for Sustainable Building is going to have most of the info. Nina suggested that as the best tool to start out with.

They have two programs within a "pilot" and a "certification". The pilot program sounds to be the most flexible to the point where they county doesn't even inspect your facility and you sign 4 affidavits certifying meet min. criteria. The standard issues need to be addressed such as black and grey water. She seemed to think the pilot program would be best in my case as I would like to maybe put up a yurt out there. She made sure to inform me that their office is there to fully assist to "make it happen" and will walk folks through the entire process!

Under this program I was told that they even allow folks to live in their rvs full time year round..she said many of them do the blueboy  to deal with waste water. Of course a septic is possible but I was told there are many places where that is not possible and an alternate needs to provided.

Nina was super kind and helpful and Coconino is one of 2 AZ counties the other being  Cochise that has an alternative living program. Forward thinking counties is exactly where I want to put my money!

She did mention that Ashfork and Williams were very popular with folks that are looking for an off grid/minimalist/alternative lifestyle.

Thank you for sharing this little secret Sofi.

 

[Qxxx]

There is plenty of cheap land around Williams and Ashfork, AZ. 20K for 40cres or smaller lots 1-2 acres for about 3-4K.

Yes, thank you Sofi for bringing up the area around Williams, . It looks like a good place for a homebase. Much too cold and snow for winter time, but nice in the summer. And it's beginning to look like you would have tons of other RVers all around. Could be the new Summer Quartzsite, LOL.

 

[Qxxx]

There is plenty of cheap land around Williams and Ashfork, AZ. 20K for 40cres or smaller lots 1-2 acres for about 3-4K.

Sofi, I was just watching Panda's video. There are cows grazing all over the place, although the RVers are not specifically camping on their own property as yet, and the Sheriff drove through on the video. I wonder what the grazing rights may be up there. I wonder if the cows are allowed to roam through people's property. I wonder if one can fence in their own 40 "private" acres. There were a couple of trails going through Panda's property, and I was wondering where those had come from.

 

[B and C]

Yes you can fence in your property. Can't imaging what Panda's 20 acres would cost to fence.

Not sure what the rules are on the cows that are free ranging.

 

[highdesertranger]

ask and you shall receive,

here's the low down on grazing cattle. counties/states decide on policy,

open range = the cattle have the right of way. they can graze anywhere. if you as a landowner don't want cattle on your property it's up to you to erect and maintain a fence. if you run into a cow on the road with your vehicle you are liable

closed range = it is up to the rancher to keep the cattle fenced in, the rancher is responsible for erecting and maintaining fences. if you run into a cow with your vehicle the rancher is liable.

test on Friday, class dismissed.

highdesertranger

 

[Qxxx]

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[shadowmoss]

Cows jump fences. I believe that area is open range. It has been fun watching a friend who lives up there chase cows out of his fenced property.

 

[B and C]

I don't think a three wire fence would ceep the cows out. My FIL always had a 4 wire fence and it didn't always work. Now may if the middle one was electric?

 

[desert_sailing]

I don't think a three wire fence would ceep the cows out.  My FIL always had a 4 wire fence and it didn't always work.  Now may if the middle one was electric?

Having grown up with horses and cows and tons of barbed wired properties, I would suggest no one ever use barbed wire. It causes terrible injuries to livestock and to wildlife.
Ever come across a deer tangle in a barbed wire fence or your horse with 6 inch deep lacerations across its chest??... I have and it is terrible. Use braided, wood, or even one strand that is electrified.. its enough.

I would strongly suggest that before anyone plans on using barb wire to keep some critters off remote land to just stay in the city. Does it really matter that a small herd of cattle are passing through?. They will be fertilizing the property. and they are friendly just like the deer and antelope who will visit.

Learn an instrument and share an experience. Cows enjoying a jazz concert >>>    

I can't imagine having much better neighbors.

 

[Qxxx]

Yup, miles of wire add a lot to the bill in the end...

For the pasture-management-challenged, I found this website. The PDF file shows that for a steel fence with those little square-y things, aka Fixed Knot Fence, rather than barbed wire, you'd need about 7 rolls, or 2000 pounds worth of wire. Plus 200-300 posts. They don't show the price, but I'm guessing $10,000, $15,000, who knows. Plus 2 years worth of heavy work for one guy. 

https://pasturemgmt.com/landing/default.html
https://pasturemgmt.com/landing/pmsi_brand_book.pdf

Good thing I like cows.

 

[desert_sailing]

1 strand about 3 feet high of electrified wire.  Pretty simple. Sturdy enough posts are the main problem.

 

[B and C]

And weeds that short the fence out.  

His calves would try to go between the wires, some of the cows were able to jump over.  His were not free range cows.