Hi Pikachu...Yikes, what a hard question to answer and not slip into the spinoff ideas...lol... as is evidenced by the replies....<br /><br />I don't think in terms of bugging out. Frankly, the last place I would want to be is in a vehicle. It only takes a small power outage to shut down all gas pumps in an area. If I am away from home I will make do, if I can get home, that's where I am going. Or into Mexico where many people already live close to the land and I could offer what I know, and my labor to make it. <br /><br />My wife and I own our own place a half block from the Rio Grande and we have our own hot water well, which is essentially what we drink here in town with a bit of cleaning up and sterilizing...<br /><br />2KW genset is on the list of stuff to buy and I believe I will soon buy a hand pump as well. I keep a lot of wood on hand, several propane bottle full. A couple cans of gasoline also. I keep as much food on hand as I think reasonable...cans of spam and fish, beans, corn, rice, green coffee beans etc....none of the dry goods keep all that long tho...I also have trade goods and some other wherewithal...as well as a small solar power system.<br /><br />Unlike Steve, I want to be in an area with my neighbors who I know and are like thinkers to myself and believe strength and survival comes with living and working together. I chose this community because we pull together, not apart.<br /><br />I live in the desert and my off grid neighbor friends already forage for food and medicine and I think my chances would be better with them, where I could fish the river even for carp and hunt bunnies and they could forage for things like Mesquite beans, etc. and we could share dinner.... many of us utilize the waste stream and grow food, etc. already.<br /><br />In many ways this is the perfect place to weather most anything....<br /><br />Although I love vandwelling, I am not a believer in it being a good way to survive a disaster involving more than just a section of the country. I think we may fool ourselves a bit by thinking what we do could take place in anywhere that wasn't as rich and abundant as our country is.<br /><br />I don't say that lightly, I have traveled the third world a lot and what we do is laughable and unreachable to them. A pleasure of the very rich in their eyes. They are busy scraping together a living and trying to obtain at least the standard of living that gives them a few things beyond survival.<br /><br />So, I believe that what I am saying is perhaps rather than thinking about living as a refugee in hiding, think in terms of a suitable, affordable spot to base camp in, near water and take the measures you need to to own it. <br /><br />Even if you need to join with a few others to be able to afford it. Possibly joining something like Escapees or some other club that owns their own RV parks. <br /><br />One possibility is going to Why, AZ and paying yearly for a spot in Coyote Howls East campground and get a solar power system bought and paid for and installed on your rig. It only cost $500 a year for a spot including well water and access to a bathroom with showers and a clubhouse with a computer area and wifi and you will have a real home. <br /><br />Just saying. Don't let fear guide you...it will lead you off into the ozone. I have been in several disaster situations and no matter what the fantasy books, doom and gloom radio programs and movies say, people usually show their best when the chips are down. I was in NYC during the first blackout in 66 or 67 or whenever that was, the crime rate dropped to zero during the duration....it changed my view of people for the rest of my life....<br />Peace,<br />Bri
