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where&nbsp;I live is so behind the times.we finally got a ATM machine last yr---no cable, no cell towers,&nbsp;out here NO high speed..just farm land.I'm adding more solar power daily..3 of my vehicles have solar panels on them too.<BR>bug -out---"never", &nbsp;i'm set ..out in the boonies,20 miles from No where.<BR>sparky1.
 
Hide? lol, not anymore. Depending on who wants to hunt you down and how badly they want to find you - you will be found. Technology and anti-privacy has gone too far.&nbsp; <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" />
 
Hi 4x4, I wish I had an RFID chip in my hand with all my medical records on it and a reader to take along to the doctor's office....<br /><br />My ubergeek electronic wizard/inventor neighbor Mikey has a chip that he programed and installed in his own hand...on video, incidently....with a couple of lock codes on it...he just waves his hand over the lock and it opens...too cool for words...I love it. He also has a tattoo of a metric ruler on the inside of one forearm. I love this couple....<br />I guess that as much as it can do you harm, it can be used for good....<br /><br />Privacy is a luxury of the rich and they pay plenty for it.<br id="tinymce" class="mceContentBody " />Bri<br /><br />PS, I'm thinking the time machine would be just up my alley...hehehe..see ya, yesterday!
 
I couldn't help but notice the mention of RFID chips being placed in various items that we carry &amp; buy as consumers. But I've got something to tell you that you may not realize. Did you know that new tires come with an RFID chip installed in them.<br /><br />From the research I've done some new tire dealers "encode" the RFID chip in the tire with the VIN of the vehicle the tire is being installed. So it's very possible that if you've bought new tires you may be carrying a few RFID chips with you right now.<br /><br />Google the subject of RFID in tires. This is NOT a joke.<br /><br />Something to think about, huh?
 
Is there some way of disarming the RFID chip so that it doesn't work?&nbsp; Magnet or something?<br />Rae
 
Frankly the biggest issue for urban dwellers in a SHTF situation is how to get out of the city. You will need to find low volume or unlikely exit routes and choose possible locations based on those exit routes. What you want is quiet.<br />You will want to find &nbsp;a hiddy hole somewhere. This could be a fun thing to do on weekends if you boondock anyway. To far from roads u will have access issues and next to them you will be seen. Away from major highways and near natural water supply. Personally I think the issue is in your movement being controlled by a creeping police state. It is unlikely the government will lose control much past the usual urban riot level or Katrina like issue. Cali folks will have to worry about the "BIG ONE"<br /><br />A faraday cage will shield your stuff if your worried about it.
 
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION... Where to Bugout?<br /><br />Mexico and Peru are looking good right now.<br /><br />
 
Anther thing to consider in this is where the sheeple will go. Everyone trying to escape from the cities will head to the mountains. The east coast will go to the Smokies and the Appalachians. The west coast will go to the Sierras Cascades and the Rockies. But the biggest move will happen when the electricity goes out, most will move south to anywhere because they are not acclimated to the surviving the cold. Few even know how to split wood. If the SHTF in fall or winter more people will die from the cold than any other reason.<br /><br />For myself, I will go in the opposite direction as the mass migration of sheeple. &nbsp;They will be more dangerous than anything else out there, a panicing mob. &nbsp;
 
Journeyman - most who vacation in the south come down in winter when it is mild. They can't handle the heat May - October, even with air conditioning. A large percentage of people who move to the south, move right back north. Heat stroke, dehydration, heat exhaustion; can also kill those who don't know how to deal, or who can't acclimate.

Being unfamiliar with what plants, insects and animals are potentially hazardous or fatal is something to consider.
There are 3 southern caterpillars (silly little bugs!) that can put a godawful hurting on you and send you to running the emergency room, simply for brushing against them or having them fall on you. They are: Buck moth, Saddle Back and Puss Moth caterpillars.
Black and brown widows are common, fire ants, scorpions, pit vipers..and many other critters that northerners either never see or assume will "go away" when the weather turns cool. Not so in the south. Year-round creepies down here <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle">

Good idea to know what you're getting into before hand. Research your area. Go there beforehand. LEARN.
 
4x4ChevyK5 said:
Journeyman - most who vacation in the south come down in winter when it is mild. They can't handle the heat May - October, even with air conditioning. A large percentage of people who move to the south, move right back north. Heat stroke, dehydration, heat exhaustion; can also kill those who don't know how to deal, or who can't acclimate. Being unfamiliar with what plants, insects and animals are potentially hazardous or fatal is something to consider. There are 3 southern caterpillars (silly little bugs!) that can put a godawful hurting on you and send you to running the emergency room, simply for brushing against them or having them fall on you. They are: Buck moth, Saddle Back and Puss Moth caterpillars. Black and brown widows are common, fire ants, scorpions, pit vipers..and many other critters that northerners either never see or assume will "go away" when the weather turns cool. Not so in the south. Year-round creepies down here <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" alt="" align="absMiddle" border="0" /> Good idea to know what you're getting into before hand. Research your area. Go there beforehand. LEARN.
<br /><br /><br />Maybe that's what the people in the south will be bugging out from.<br /><br />[video]<br />Probably one of the early signs of bugging out coming down the pike, one of the most important signs, is knowing what's being runned from.
 
I have three Bug Out Locations picked out. The first one is the main one I'll try and get to. If I can't get to this I have two other backups. I've picked out locations in the Piedmont National Reserve. There are old logging roads that aren't used anymore and are slightly grown up but accessible. The road leads to a river or to one of the streams that feed it. These roads run for miles from the main road and is no-where near any houses. Nothing but forest. <br><br>I'm still refining these locations. I will Bug In for as long as I can before leaving. <br><br>If I'm on the road I would find the most rural location that I could and head for it. The more woods and less houses, the better. That's just me. My plan is to stay hidden.<br>Where ever you end up you have to keep in mind what you are going to do about food and water. I wouldn't want to have to go back in town for supply's that are probably not there anyway. Finding a lake to hang out sounds like an idea. But, so might everyone-else. You can boil or filter water to drink and catch fish for food. <br><br>Now that I'm starting the vandwelling project and will be in the van most of the time on my trips, this is something that I need to give more thought about.<br><br>
 
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