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Deb_A

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I've decided three times that the next year, I'm going to move into a van. Every year, I've found reasons not to.

I decided not to think about all the reasons not to, and just concentrate on getting ready. There is much to do, which has nothing to do with buying a van and outfitting it for the road.

I have to get rid of so many possessions it's not funny. That will take months all in itself. 

I have to get in shape and lose weight. I can't start my journey unhealthy, so I'm trying to lose 40 lbs in the next year and work out daily to be in the best possible shape when I head out. 

I have to build some kind of business that will give me passive income on the road. I'm thinking affiliate marketing through blogging or publishing ebooks. I'm not doing YouTube. I don't want my face online. 

I think that's enough to keep me busy for a few months. Once I have that all done, and have enough money to start seriously looking for a van and outfitting it, it will keep me from ruminating on every horrible thing that could happen on the road.
 
Sounds like a plan. Also, take baby steps by camping in a vehicle first overnight in your driveway, then at a campground. That way you can tweak your set up and become familiar with your gear and your needs. Even if the curent vehicle is not the one you plan to go full time in, the gear will most likely transfer over.
 
It sounds like you’ve got it all thought out. Good planning!
 
How many short camping trips I get to take depends on how long it takes me to get the money for the van. I have to save up from zero, and I only have a year to do all this -- well, a year from July 17, when my last year's lease starts. I have to be out of here by July 16, 2019, but I can do it. I'm hoping i can save the money for the van in six to eight months, then take a few short trips, then start my build. It won't be fancy, but fancy never got anybody across the country from FL to WA state in a van, did it?
 
Deb_A said:
"I've decided [to] just concentrate on getting ready. ... to get rid of so many possessions ... to get in shape... to build some kind of business that will give me passive income on the road. ... I don't want my face online. ..."

Deb_A said:
"... I only have a year to do all this --..."

I have similar sentiments and on nearly the same path...your posts may help to keep me on track...thank you...
 
right there with you Deb!, working, saving, planning, getting healthy, trying to keep to the master plan.

i know it might cut into your savings to buy a tent, but i find that the chances i have to get away from work and stress, even just an overnight or weekend, renew my motivation and confidence to make this lifestyle mine. will also help you figure out what you really need to be happy (in terms of necessities vs. luxuries) 

stay strong!
 
tav 2020, I have a large tent, but I'm going to sell it and get a smaller one for the road, if I can fit it into the budget. The budget depends on how much money I can make between now and then. I'm shooting for $6000 for the van & necessities and a $2000 emergency fund. I know that's not much of an emergency fund, but that's probably the most I'm going to be able to save between now and then. Luckily, I have almost everything I'm going to need to furnish the van, will just need a few pieces of wood and things to pull it all together. If I'm lucky, I'll run across a few more free things along the way.
 
You’ve got time. You can do this.
People dimmer, more out of shape, less money, older, weaker, (pick more words) have done this.

The times I have made this work I went crazy from fear. Did everything I could think of to save money. You will think of more and better things to do.

Unplugged everything! except the stove and refrigerator. If I wanted to watch tv I plugged in then unplugged right after. So many things pull electric power even when off. Lived in a house so turned off the water heater (breaker box). Turned it on 30 min a day to take shower and run washing machine. 30 min later it was off. There is 30-50 gal of hot water and takes long time for it to cool. Water heaters are well insulated. Summer time was able to not even use the water heater. Showers were tepid not cold. -I told a walking partner about the water heater thing. She poo-pooed but then tried. Told me it took $15 a month off her electric bill and that was before our recent rate increases. 
Paid for water so captured the water that runs till gets hot from tap or shower. Gallon jugs or plastic buckets. Water captured was used for washing machine, watering garden in summer, even flushing toilet. Yup do the toilet thing too, yellow let mellow.

Got rid of cable TV, Netflix, Amazon Prime. Either TV came over the air, got DVDs from library or fed a neighbor’s cat and watched some tv while petting the beast. Phone and internet costs are huge. Find ways to cut, do without. Go slow in buying new gadgets or phone plans to save money. Things may, will, change when you hit the road.

Turn down the heat or up the AC or just off. Spend time in the library. Sleeping mattress on the floor is cooler than the bed. Heat rises so closer to ceiling is warmer. If you live in a townhouse sleep and live in basement in Summer and top floor in winter.
Cut my water, electric bills more than in half.
Looked at every bill. When I’d saved enough, raised the deductible on car to $1000. Canceled some parts if car was too old. You can change your insurance at anytime don’t need to wait for renewal.

Don’t need new clothes unless down to rinsing last pair of panties in the sink everynight. After all there won’t be much room in the van.

Eat everything in your house including that can of Lima beans in the very back. Had strange but creative meals. I budgeted using the federal cost of food charts. Most states use the thrifty maybe low amounts for food stamp amounts. Current amounts are weekly $37.60 thrifty-46.70 low for women 50-70. Or $5.37-6.67 a day. Bet many people on this site eat well for less. Since you’ll be cleaning out your stored food your spending food budget will be less.

I did the envelope thing. Got monthly cash at one time from the bank. Filled 4-5 weekly envelopes with $37.60 each. Had a budget weekly for gas and did cash for that too. Took all credit/debit cards out of my wallet and stuck a $20 bill in a hidden spot for emergency. When going to the store my weekly food money was all that went in the wallet. When I came home the remainder went back in the envelope. Didn’t eat out didn’t swing through McDonald’s. Quickly figured I could eat for a whole day, maybe 2-3 for the price of one meal. If I was really starving, crazy, could buy a loaf of bread on sale, any jar of peanut butter or can of tuna and mayo for the cost of the McDonald’s meal and still be able to eat more meals with the leftover food. Became much more adult about my impulses.
Learned how much I was paying for a serving of X. Found the best tasting of the cheap/on sale coffee brands. Used a little less cream and sugar. Found the heaviest frozen pizza for the price. Sadly beer and ice cream were out of my budget but the pull of freedom became stronger than the pull of ice cream. That part was tough for me.
I read and reread The Complete Tightwad Gazette book (Look in library or used book). Much of the prices are out of date but the concepts and math still work. I even read the stuff on kid toys and Halloween costumes. The thought process works for many things.

Used a thing called SmartyPig. It’s at an online bank. You make up one or more things to save for -van, emergency fund, dental bill, new walking hiking shoes. Put a future price on each item and when you you wish to meet that goal. You can have it setup to pull that money from your bank account monthly and you can make extra deposits to specific goals. You earn interest on the money. I got a kick out of seeing those pigs fill up each month.

Every penny does count and is worth the effort to save or pickup off the ground.
 
I have decided to follow this great advice! Usually, I go buy food and cook fresh each day, which is a good thing. however, today I ate through stuff I already had. Felt great. I saved $10, easily. I'm going to keep this going until the cupboards are bare. I drink water and make my own coffee so that's a savings there. No vices other than daydreaming and that's free. 

I haven't had a TV in years and so no cost there. I also, even though I am deep in the South, struggle through this heat with a floor fan and a lot of water. I get a reprieve during the hottest part of the day when I run errands. So, seriously now, my electric bill runs around $30 a month. I hike;read;write and paint - all for mere pennies and that is my entertainment. I am rarely bored. This IPad is my one luxury. I am in the nonacquisition phase of life and so no need for chachkies. 

I'm going to try your envelope suggestion , as well. I am curious to see just how much $ I can save. I'm thinking about giving up my phone and getting one with a prepaid card since I don't really require the minutes.

Anyway - Thanks. 

:)
 
LivGolden said:
I'm going I'm thinking about giving up my phone and getting one with a prepaid card since I don't really require the minutes.

Suggest start a thread on the internet communication forum. Say what model phone you currently have and your network (ATT, Verizon or ?), current plan minutes/data/texts, if you are off contract, how you use your phone, number of minutes, texts, internet? How techie you are or if you have a techie friend or two if you need assistance to initially setup. Libraries and senior centers often have people to help or better to watch you go through the initial steps. - Not hard but like anything else if the first time you’ve done it’s all new. 

Then ask for some suggestions for prepaid service for the prepaid newbie. They may point you to some previous threads. No need to really rush changing on this item. 

— The envelopes were really great for me. Very visual. Kept me on track because what was in the envelope was all there was.
 
if the phone is paid for don't give it up, try cricket or metropcs, or even the walmart phone plan, all of them allow the use of your own phone. if you are not a heavy internet user then the 30$ plan is pretty decent just for calls and texts, use wyfi for surfing whenever possible. and that can be done all over the place for free.
jim
 
and i do not remember the name of it but there is a plan that costs as little at 10$ a month that was advertised from target, mainly for seniors that do not use the phone much but need to have communication. lord the song and the movie, jeepers creepers, howd you get those peepers, ohhhhhhh dang it CRS is creeping in.
jim
 
i have the lifelinephone, they gave me a small smartphone. i can add 2gb each month for 10$, but getting a signal out here is really hard. in town no problem.
 
re: health. i have been a type 2 diabetic for 11 years. on tons of drugs per the doc. last feb i went straight keto diet and am now off of all the meds except a tiny bit of metformin. i could get that gone too with more exercise, but i hurt my back helping kids move, so working on that to heal.
i only saw my doc twice a year and he was always wanting to put me on some new pill. i quit that. my only line up at this time is two cavities to be filled. I think being healthy going into this will help a great deal.
 
Update on my plans. I had to rethink things, because I was making myself sick and crazy trying to push myself to accomplish everything in a year. A year sounds like a long time, unless, like me, you have no savings and make very little money and have to save up to buy a van and build it out. I just need more time to do things right, or I'll be miserable.

Anyway, I've been posting about it on my blog, if you'd like to read. http://simplydeb.com
 
Think it was Oprah (or in a 12 step meeting) that said “we change when the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of change”

Maybe take one issue at a time. I’m guessing maybe saving money, but even that can be broken into things like, the darn envelopes, saving every utility penny, checking insurance policies, Grocery shop only sales .... what else? Get some success and rejoice

Then tackle food plan or walk around the block or.

Yes some items can be low pressure/pain and done together with more challenging stuff, like reading ideas here, travelers blogs, Craigslist ads, getting your steps in wandering used car lots, looking at paper road maps - thinking planning dreaming.
 
Deb, sometimes I over think things when I plan.  I plan for this and that and back up plans if plan A doesn't work out.  I work out a plan C if B doesn't work.   I end up packing too much because I wonder if I need more water containers, and what if I get out there and one of them springs a leak?  What if this thing happens or that thing happens and then it ruins all the fun and I'm just a mess.

So I was having problems like that.  I called it "Failure to Launch."  So I really got mad at myself.  I was determined I would try this out if it killed me.  It was more important than my next meal.  So I started out taking short trips.  And doing Walmart and stealth camping.  I found out if the dang water container leaks, I'll just get one at the next trip out.  I wasn't going to the Moon, I was going to be in a Walmart parking lot part of the day anyway.

The short trips helped me a LOT.  My first trip was to spend the night at a rest area that doesn't post that you can't sleep there.  I had a blanket and pillow and slept on the van bench seat (I'm short).  I didn't even have curtains yet.  I parked on the end, and no one bothered me.  The next morning I rewarded myself with saying, "You just saved yourself $70 by not staying in a hotel last night."

I went home and the next trip was to try a Walmart parking lot that allowed overnighters.  I branched out from these little victories.  And the next day I would tell myself how much I saved.  I don't know why but just saying that made a difference to me.  I guess I'm extra thrifty and like to save money.  LOL

I just wanted to encourage you to go with what you have to start out and maybe don't plan so much since it's causing you to have fears.   Half the things I planned, maybe more, I'm not even doing.  I'm not even using the vehicle I thought I would use.  I wasted a lot of time with "what ifs" when I could have done way better by figuring I'll just wing it.

Good luck to you.  I know you can do it, Deb!
 
wasanah2 said:
"... I would tell myself how much I saved.  I don't know why but just saying that made a difference to me.  I guess I'm extra thrifty and like to save money.  LOL ..."

Thank you!
I'm going to see if this makes a difference for me too!
 

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