cyndi
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Whoops! van and trailer submerged on Oregon coast
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Gee, it LOOKED like a great place to park ......
Tee hee hee.
Tee hee hee.
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Oh sheesh complete ruin. I guess he might be charged for the clean-up too, to really rub it in.
Likely the owner went out on the sand at low tide when it was very firm. Then got stuck in some soft deep stuff, and the tide came back in. Either no one was around or had enough torque to pull the rig out and back to the road. The photo gallery shows the trailer was totally disintegrated and the van had apparently rolled over on its roof once or twice. It's always something. (lenny is shirley one of the Bad Dogs around here).
Ha, which reminds me. Once I was out at Okracoke when there was a good surf, and these people came with their catamaran. There was this extremely muscular guy grinning and kicking sand in people's faces. He got in the catamaran with a couple of other and pushed forth. Then, like an idiot he turned sideways across the breaking waves and immediately went over. Catamaran was demasted. The people walked to shore coughing and wheezing. I think the extremely muscular guy drowned (awww, didn't really but probably should have).
Ha, which reminds me. Once I was out at Okracoke when there was a good surf, and these people came with their catamaran. There was this extremely muscular guy grinning and kicking sand in people's faces. He got in the catamaran with a couple of other and pushed forth. Then, like an idiot he turned sideways across the breaking waves and immediately went over. Catamaran was demasted. The people walked to shore coughing and wheezing. I think the extremely muscular guy drowned (awww, didn't really but probably should have).
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wow, and bummer. I would NEVER drive one of my vehicle on to any beach. all that salty sand getting kicked up on the chassis, no thanks. curious as to how this happen, I would think that rig had all kinds of problems getting across the soft sand just to get to the waters edge. once there probably got caught is the rising tide. highdesertranger
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What a disaster.
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regis101
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Back in the early 80's, in Galveston, we saw something similar.
Peeps would drive onto the beach at night and not be aware of the tide(s).
oops!
Peeps would drive onto the beach at night and not be aware of the tide(s).
oops!
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They were just camping I suppose, not a good day. Afterwards you make your way home & in a year of two you'll have a story even the driver can smile about.
If they were vandwellers they'd have to start over... I find myself asking "what would I do"?
If they were vandwellers they'd have to start over... I find myself asking "what would I do"?
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I always try to keep enough reserve in the bank that I can replace the van and everything in it if something like this happens to me.
Sadly I do realize though that many dwellers are not in the financial position to do that.
Sadly I do realize though that many dwellers are not in the financial position to do that.
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Reno I have seen that video before.
some advice for newbies, in the western deserts NEVER EVER drive on dirt roads right after a rain storm. most are clay based and when the clay gets wet it's like ice. as you can see in the video the more they tried to fight gravity the worse it got. gravity is a mother efer on off camber roads and when they get slick it's 1,000 times worse. you could tell he didn't know what he was doing in the first puddle. he tried to avoid the puddle by driving closer to the edge, big no, no. all driving through a puddle does is get your vehicle wet. driving to close the edge could have disastrous effects.
it's much better to wait a couple of days and let the road dry out. even with my big old 1 ton 4x4 I wait it out.
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some advice for newbies, in the western deserts NEVER EVER drive on dirt roads right after a rain storm. most are clay based and when the clay gets wet it's like ice. as you can see in the video the more they tried to fight gravity the worse it got. gravity is a mother efer on off camber roads and when they get slick it's 1,000 times worse. you could tell he didn't know what he was doing in the first puddle. he tried to avoid the puddle by driving closer to the edge, big no, no. all driving through a puddle does is get your vehicle wet. driving to close the edge could have disastrous effects.
it's much better to wait a couple of days and let the road dry out. even with my big old 1 ton 4x4 I wait it out.
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becida said:
This is one reason I wanted a trailer and truck, even though that's arguably the hardest thing to drive and park and I don't even have binocular vision to help (strabismus, an eye condition). I figure if I lose the trailer, I can sleep in the two vehicle,and if I lose the tow vehicle, I can probably still sleep in the trailer.
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On the road in the video, your trailer would slide sideways and likely pulled your truck and you over the edge with it.
Once I was on a canoe trip down the Green River starting at Mineral Bottom west of Moab. Week long "organized" trip, so stay on schedule, all of that. It rained the night we all got there. Next morning the local outfiitter was taking our crew and the 15 rented canoes over to Mineral Bottom. The rain had turned the red clay road into slick red clay. I was in the 4x4 pulling the canoe trailer, and as we were crossing a 30' dropoff area the trailer went sideways and almost pulled us over the edge. It took us an hour to take off the canoes, move the trailer to flat ground and reload the canoes.
Then we turned around and went back to the bus that was carrying the other 30 people. It had slid sideways off the slick clay road a mile back. So 30 people pushed the bus back on the road. We all turned around and came back the next day when the road was dry.
On the road in the video, your trailer would slide sideways and likely pulled your truck and you over the edge with it.
Once I was on a canoe trip down the Green River starting at Mineral Bottom west of Moab. Week long "organized" trip, so stay on schedule, all of that. It rained the night we all got there. Next morning the local outfiitter was taking our crew and the 15 rented canoes over to Mineral Bottom. The rain had turned the red clay road into slick red clay. I was in the 4x4 pulling the canoe trailer, and as we were crossing a 30' dropoff area the trailer went sideways and almost pulled us over the edge. It took us an hour to take off the canoes, move the trailer to flat ground and reload the canoes.
Then we turned around and went back to the bus that was carrying the other 30 people. It had slid sideways off the slick clay road a mile back. So 30 people pushed the bus back on the road. We all turned around and came back the next day when the road was dry.
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On that video they talk about it being the scariest moment of their lives and how close they came to real disaster, but...
There was a recent discussion on Expedition Portal, "Do It For The 'Gram", about people that put themselves into ridiculous and often dangerous situations just to get something good to post to their social media; Instagram, Youtube, etc. This is a perfect example of that kind of stupidity.
The Youtubers in the video, despite the scary and dangerous situation they were in, managed to capture the entire incident on video to post to their (monetized) Youtube channel and with over 300,000 views it has surely rewarded them. Also note that when their rescuers teamed up to help them, of the couple in trouble, she was busy filming the whole rescue and he was standing around with his hands in his pockets while kind strangers were mucking mud with shovels.
And finally, after getting yanked out you could see they did some serious damage to the muddy road. Who thinks that the Youtuber hands-in-pockets dude actually borrowed a shovel to try to straighten out the mess that he made of the road, or did they just drive away leaving a hazard for other travelers. That's exactly the kind of road damage and abuse that leads to back-country roads being shut down.
There was a recent discussion on Expedition Portal, "Do It For The 'Gram", about people that put themselves into ridiculous and often dangerous situations just to get something good to post to their social media; Instagram, Youtube, etc. This is a perfect example of that kind of stupidity.
The Youtubers in the video, despite the scary and dangerous situation they were in, managed to capture the entire incident on video to post to their (monetized) Youtube channel and with over 300,000 views it has surely rewarded them. Also note that when their rescuers teamed up to help them, of the couple in trouble, she was busy filming the whole rescue and he was standing around with his hands in his pockets while kind strangers were mucking mud with shovels.
And finally, after getting yanked out you could see they did some serious damage to the muddy road. Who thinks that the Youtuber hands-in-pockets dude actually borrowed a shovel to try to straighten out the mess that he made of the road, or did they just drive away leaving a hazard for other travelers. That's exactly the kind of road damage and abuse that leads to back-country roads being shut down.
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QinReno said:
I think my superpower of cowardice will likely keep me out of many situations that easily defeat mere mortals. My fear of heights might have come in particularly handy when deciding whether to park where these two were going. Sometimes it can be my ace in the hole!
I've already realized that a lot of the adventures others crave are not for me.
If I wanted to go somewhere that I could even conceive of as tricky, I'd probably drive the tow vehicle down it first, by itself,just to check things out. My visual handicap makes it obvious to me that I simply couldn't get out of the scrapes some people get into, or that I could make problems out of nothing, so I just won't even try to push my luck.
Probably part of the problem with some of the folks who get themselves into unnecessary trouble is that they are too young to take things very seriously yet. They instinctively think they have their whole lives ahead of them and plenty of time to make up for anything they lose. They may have family and/or plenty of savings to fall back on. They can probably heal in two days what takes me two weeks. I'm the opposite, all too aware that I'm not bulletproof, that bad things happen to good people all the time, and that if anything goes terribly wrong, I may not be able to come back from it.
