badmotorscooter
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You know what they say, when everybody else is wrong it's probably you that is wrong. So I will start this rant by saying I'm wrong and behind the times, refusing to change...
With all the security challenges and hacking going on, it seems like you really have to jump through hoops to get something ordered online. Some vendors like Amazon make it fairly convenient, but a lot of others have excessive vefication protocols.
Most people will say that is the price for the convenience of online ordering, but I really question that. In spite of all the security measures and extra verifications, we still have to deal with hacked or compromised accounts, credit/debit card theft and so on.
When did this become our responsibility? If a vendor chooses to do business online and accept our credit cards, wouldn't they be obligated to provide adequate security? It seems to me all of the verification and jumping through hoops is given to us and we happily comply without question. We are the consumers/buyers and the vendors are making money from our purchases. Why can't they invest on better software or security measures that don't require our DNA to verify?
All of this stems from my order earlier today from Newegg.com. I have been ordering from them for about 15 years and today part of my order was denied because of failure to verify properly. I ordered three items at once and two were approved no problem, the third cancelled and my account suspended! It was a real $itch figuring out which item was cancelled and what wasn't with no way to log in and check. I ordered components for a micro-stx computer and bought parts from Amazon as well (no problems there). The component that was cancelled was essential and the other components were dependent on that specific form factor.
My son came to the rescue, yah! He ordered the cancelled item using his newegg account. He used a debit card that he transferred money into from savings for this purchase (he does this before every purchase). He ordered on his phone and a verification prompt was sent to him that didn't show up when I tried ordering on my tablet. He then received a notification that asked permission to approve the purchase for his debit card.
The order was successful. He uses this same process for purchasing everything online and it protects him from getting hacked. It works great, but it got me to wondering? Where is the protection from the institutes and companies who make their revenues from online sales? It seems being secure is all about taking appropriate measures into your own hands.
Difficult for someone like me who refuses to use a smart phone...
So I guess it's my fault for not accepting the status quo. But I stubbornly find something wrong with security issues being our problem with online vendors doing the minimum or less. By now you may have guessed I mostly avoid ordering online, choosing to pay cash locally whenever possible. Lucky for online vendors my philosophy on security hassles is "wrong" and everyone else sees it as "normal/acceptable".
Rant over, go ahead and flame me now...
With all the security challenges and hacking going on, it seems like you really have to jump through hoops to get something ordered online. Some vendors like Amazon make it fairly convenient, but a lot of others have excessive vefication protocols.
Most people will say that is the price for the convenience of online ordering, but I really question that. In spite of all the security measures and extra verifications, we still have to deal with hacked or compromised accounts, credit/debit card theft and so on.
When did this become our responsibility? If a vendor chooses to do business online and accept our credit cards, wouldn't they be obligated to provide adequate security? It seems to me all of the verification and jumping through hoops is given to us and we happily comply without question. We are the consumers/buyers and the vendors are making money from our purchases. Why can't they invest on better software or security measures that don't require our DNA to verify?
All of this stems from my order earlier today from Newegg.com. I have been ordering from them for about 15 years and today part of my order was denied because of failure to verify properly. I ordered three items at once and two were approved no problem, the third cancelled and my account suspended! It was a real $itch figuring out which item was cancelled and what wasn't with no way to log in and check. I ordered components for a micro-stx computer and bought parts from Amazon as well (no problems there). The component that was cancelled was essential and the other components were dependent on that specific form factor.
My son came to the rescue, yah! He ordered the cancelled item using his newegg account. He used a debit card that he transferred money into from savings for this purchase (he does this before every purchase). He ordered on his phone and a verification prompt was sent to him that didn't show up when I tried ordering on my tablet. He then received a notification that asked permission to approve the purchase for his debit card.
The order was successful. He uses this same process for purchasing everything online and it protects him from getting hacked. It works great, but it got me to wondering? Where is the protection from the institutes and companies who make their revenues from online sales? It seems being secure is all about taking appropriate measures into your own hands.
Difficult for someone like me who refuses to use a smart phone...
So I guess it's my fault for not accepting the status quo. But I stubbornly find something wrong with security issues being our problem with online vendors doing the minimum or less. By now you may have guessed I mostly avoid ordering online, choosing to pay cash locally whenever possible. Lucky for online vendors my philosophy on security hassles is "wrong" and everyone else sees it as "normal/acceptable".
Rant over, go ahead and flame me now...
