United Airlines

[Blanch]

Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for the ceo.  Yes, he should have made amends quicker, but time and time again you see poor employee judgements made and people who had nothing to do with it pay the price.  I'm thinking about cases of employee food tampering, employees who make racial comments or refuse to serve cops, etc. Those things are undoubtedly not allowed in the handbook, but the owner or franchisee pays the price for actions by employees who have little to lose but their minimum wage paychecks.  In this case investors who lost millions due to the poor judgement of the employees on the ground.  Whoever made the on the spot decision to bump passengers in favor of the airline staff who had to be at another flight, rather than find an alternative means for them to get there, must be on the hot seat tonight.  But in his defense, how could he know.  There have been thousands bumped from flights without this type of incident.

The 'doctor' who said he needed to be on that flight to attend patients was a bullshitter.  He lost his license and if he had patients he was seriously breaking the law.  Whatever happens, he will be rich and a lot of people who had nothing to do with it will pay. It will be resolved one way or another and life will go on, until the next big headline grabber comes along and the next victim gets wealthy overnight.

This is incorrect, he got his license back in 2015.
For reference here is his Medical Board file from Kentucky
Name: 

David A. D. Dao M.D.​

Address: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]914 North Dixie Ave[/font]​

City, State, Zip: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Elizabethtown KY 42701[/font]​

Phone: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](270) 769-1049[/font]​

License: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]22439[/font]​

Status: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Active Physician[/font]​

Expiration: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2/28/2018 0:00:00[/font]​

Practice County: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hardin[/font]​

*Area of Practice: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Internal Medicine[/font]​

Type of Practice: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Private Practice[/font]​

Year Licensed in KY: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1/27/1983 0:00:00[/font]​

Medical School: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]University of Medicine of Ho Chi Minh City[/font]​

Year Graduated: ​

[font=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1974[/font]​

Board Action: ​

You can look it up online easily.
http://web1.ky.gov/GenSearch/LicenseSearch.aspx?AGY=5[/SIZE]

 

[GotSmart]

The 'doctor' who said he needed to be on that flight to attend patients was a bullshitter.  He lost his license and if he had patients he was seriously breaking the law.  Whatever happens, he will be rich and a lot of people who had nothing to do with it will pay. It will be resolved one way or another and life will go on, until the next big headline grabber comes along and the next victim gets wealthy overnight.

Do some research.  You are incorrect.

 

[Ballenxj]

  Apparently they hadn't read the earlier stories that he had lost his license due to some sort of criminal action regarding prescribing.

A lot of people have no comprehension abilities, and will go with whatever sounds the way they want things to go at the moment.

 

[IanC]

This story reports him as being a professional poker player

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/04/dr-david-dao-poker-gambling-medical-license/

 

[Blanch]

This story reports him as being a professional poker player

https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/04/dr-david-dao-poker-gambling-medical-license/

Come on!
Even this article states he got his license back in 2015.

[font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]"Since 2015, David Dao has been practicing limited medicine as mandated by the [/font][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Kentucky State Court records [/font][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]following the suspension of his physician’s license as a result of a variety of [/font][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]transgressions involving drugs for sex with patients[/font][font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]. Indeed."[/font]

[font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Lets not trash the guy with lies. He is legally practicing medicine in Kentucky since 2015.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]I posted the link to his official Kentucky Board of Medicine record above. [/font]

 

[Gunny]

Same Medical School as my VA Dr.


Rob

Hepcat ,you are correct to a point. It may be hair-splitting but the UCMJ reads "Lawful Order". I have to come down on this guys side. It was handled poorly by all but dragging him down the aisle will cost United.

It's a good conversation starter and many opinions. I just think the Police over reacted. I suppose the courts will decide.

 

[IanC]

Come on!
Even this article states he got his license back in 2015.

I stand corrected. Maybe his anger issues were fixed had nothing to do with the incident. Whatever, he's due to retire and will do so handsomely.

 

[Kathleen]

This incident hit a nerve with people round the world. Three hours ago there was an article that stated the Dr. Dao who was involved with the criminal activities is not the same Dr. Dao who was hauled off the plane.

I do not know if this info is true or not. But when millions/billions are at stake many big corps are not above a smear campaign.

A new interview with United CEO revealed he is suddenly a great humanitarian with a caring heart. He was contrite and promised nothing like this will ever happen again.

Another story said United is refunding the ticket price to everyone on that flight.

 

[John61CT]

The four "United" employees they needed the seats for were actually for a partner airline, Frontier I think.

Even if he's a drug-dealing paedophile terrorist, nothing to do with the point of the whole event.

PR flacks, social media damage control, despicable.

Let's actually fix the underlying problem rather than letting them distract us

 

[Ballenxj]

The four "United" employees they needed the seats for were actually for a partner airline, Frontier I think.

The plot thickens. This whole story is so convoluted that I am quickly losing interest. Who's on first, what's on second?

 

[StarEcho]

The fine print that was quoted here regarding being denied boarding...does that really apply when you've already boarded????? How can they spout boarding regulations and how they pick who is denied boarding....when you are already on the freaking plane, sitting in your seat????? I just don't get it. I'd be livid too and I only hope I would have enough courage to stand up for myself. Probably wouldn't though. But this whole thing just reaffirms my decision many years ago to not fly. It was mainly because of the horror that is TSA, but now even if you pass that particular horror guantlet, you aren't even safe even if you make it on the plane. They (the PTB) can still make you bend over and ask please sir can I have another?

 

[DannyB1954]

The Doctors past is irrelevant. Had someone with a perfect past refused to give up their seat, the reaction from United and security would have been the same. The story isn't how he treated United, it is how United treated him. They may want to put all the blame on security not following proper procedure, But I did not see any of the crew trying to intervene on his behalf.
Before calling security United had the option to raise the incentive to give up a seat to $1,350.00. They chose not to. Now it will cost them millions if not Billions. The Chinese media is not happy about an Asian being knocked out and drug down the isle. They think it rather rude.

 

[jonsun]

Should look up what an ad hominem is

 

[ArtW]

the story is he did get off the plane, then reborded, i dunno how that will affect the case, but I have to concur with Danny, it wouldn't matter if he was selling crack to little kids in exchange for sexual favors, horrible as that would be, that has no bearing on what happened on the plane

I had a thought on this earlier
Wouldn't it have been cheaper, overall, to put the derelict crew on a charter, than to get all this flak?
better yet, just reassign crews to cover, and discipline the crew that screwed up?
lots of wrongs here, but that's where the ball started rolling

 

[Ballenxj]

The Chinese media is not happy about an Asian being knocked out and drug down the isle. 

He was knocked out too? This is the first I've heard that.

 

[DannyB1954]

Honestly, I feel a bit sorry for the ceo.  Yes, he should have made amends quicker, but time and time again you see poor employee judgements made and people who had nothing to do with it pay the price. 

The CEO commended the underlings for doing a fine job, I think he said something like thanks for ensuring that we fly right. It wasn't until he started to realize the financial repercussions that he became apologetic. His version of being knocked out and dragged out was the passenger was being re accommodated.

 

[DannyB1954]

He was knocked out too? This is the first I've heard that.

Look at his face. I don't think he fell asleep.

 

[John61CT]

CEO has promised they will no longer call LEO to force removals for overbooking.

But refuses to resign.

 

[DannyB1954]

Wouldn't it have been cheaper, overall, to put the derelict crew on a charter, than to get all this flak?
better yet, just reassign crews to cover, and discipline the crew that screwed up?
lots of wrongs here, but that's where the ball started rolling

It would have been cheaper to buy a new airplane to fly the 4 people.

 

[DannyB1954]

Another story said United is refunding the ticket price to everyone on that flight.

Trying to buy off witnesses.