The SOY-if-a-cation of prepared foods

[abnorm]

Paulette has a Sensitivity to SOY...........she quickly KNOWS if the food has "too much" Soy resulting in an upset stomach or worse

It seems everything processed/prepared these days has a soy component ...........Bread.......Box potatoes.......Chicken Noodle Soup.....all the CREAM-of-soups........Ice Cream sandwiches/Klondike bars.......Salad dressings / Mayo......Forget any frozen entree or frozen sauced Veggie.........I picked up some Turtle Brownies for Valentines day.......WRONG a "Soy Tri-fecta"........Soybean OIL .....Soybean FLOUR and Soybean LETHICEN ??????

WHY ? I'm left reading all the TINY print labels to see what she can eat..................

Now we find ourselves stocking more simple plain ingredients and actually "cooking" more...........Our first Bulk purchase was a bucket of Sliced Dehydrated Potatoes.....casserole style dinners YUM !................ Homemade loaded chicken soup.............Crock-pot RICE and meat dishes with simple sauces...........Salads with limited dressings..........

 

[NctryBen]

Yikes! Put on your chefs hat!! Kinda scary what they are cramming in our food now!

 

[maki2]

My mother could not have any legumes in her diet including Soy products. Also nothing made with eggs in it. My father was a diabetic. But those issues came along after they were past the age of 50.

 

[maki2]

Tough getting older!

 

[abnorm]

^^Interesting .............................Legumes and Eggs are also a trigger !

 

[maki2]

This article might explain why the eggs are also a problem as the chickens that create the eggs can have a lot of soy in their chicken feed. Maybe you can find eggs from a specialty egg producer who uses soy free feed.
I used to send my mother packages of “egg replacer” so she could make some recipes such as pancakes and her favorite cornbread and things like cookies.
https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/egg-allergy-really-soy-allergy/

Soy is a legume. My mother could not eat any type of legume including peanuts. Not sure when her egg allergy started, but earlier than the bean issues as she could not have any vaccines or other injections that were egg albumin based. So that is something you might also have to take precautions to avoid as that has a potential for bad reactions if eggs are an allergy. I am not a doctor or an allergist so you have to consult someone who is a medical professional to discuss the risks and medications, etc.

 

[Frood]

Paulette has a Sensitivity to SOY...........she quickly KNOWS if the food has "too much" Soy resulting in an upset stomach or worse

It seems everything processed/prepared these days has a soy component ...........Bread.......Box potatoes.......Chicken Noodle Soup.....all the CREAM-of-soups........Ice Cream sandwiches/Klondike bars.......Salad dressings / Mayo......Forget any frozen entree or frozen sauced Veggie.........I picked up some Turtle Brownies for Valentines day.......WRONG a "Soy Tri-fecta"........Soybean OIL .....Soybean FLOUR and Soybean LETHICEN ??????

WHY ? I'm left reading all the TINY print labels to see what she can eat..................

Now we find ourselves stocking more simple plain ingredients and actually "cooking" more...........Our first Bulk purchase was a bucket of Sliced Dehydrated Potatoes.....casserole style dinners YUM !................ Homemade loaded chicken soup.............Crock-pot RICE and meat dishes with simple sauces...........Salads with limited dressings..........

What part of the SOY is the allergy to? For example refined peanut oil won't necessarily trigger an allergic reaction...
https://health.osu.edu/wellness/exercise-and-nutrition/is-peanut-oil-safe-for-peanut-allergies

Can you isolate the specific ingredient?

Soy seems to be getting fairly ubiquitous as a food additive, especially soybean oil...

 

[eDJ_]

Back in the late 60's Cyclamate sweeteners were banned in the USA. At the time they were thought to cause cancer. Industry complained about Government interfering with their making money as usual. They claimed that there was very little of it in any given product people consumed as it was a very potent artificial sweetener.

What the public wasn't realizing was that Cyclamate sweeteners were being used in so many products that people were consuming even more of it than they realized each day which could lead to a cancer diagnosis.

Soybeans have a huge number of uses and the USA alone has been the leading grower of them producing some 120 million metric tons a year. They are not only in the supply stream of our whole foods (such as eggs where hens are fed soy products in their feed, but that of cattle and swine also. Some 80% of the world wide soy crop is fed to livestock. Even the milk children are given is influenced by soy) I've read where the average American consumes nearly 40 pounds of soy each year.

Soy will adversely effect some people's digestive tract which is of primary importance to the function of a healthy body. Generally small amounts in moderation are OK. But once again.....read the labels to know what you are consuming.

 

[Sleep]

On the plus side of your new dietary plans, this will probably be a good change for both of you. I know I eat to much processed food. I’ll keep my eyes open for new recipes!

 

[vanbrat]

I have to watch labels too. Hubby is always trying to find treats for me, but because he only reads the big words on the labels, I read the tiny print. I have a minor issue with wheat. I am really allergic to grasses. Wheat is a grass soooo... I love a good whole wheat bread or cereal or just about anything. and while to much whole wheat can bite me big time, over processed all-purpose does very little to me. If I overdo soy as in go to a Chinese restaurant and then eat left-overs for a day or 2 it can make my asthma nuts. But 1 bite of a peanut and nope I'm puking and my asthma hits like crazy. One cherry can make me itch for a week. I have had 1-2 anaphylactic hits but not hospital stays. I know when to chug Benadryl or hit the epy shot. I carry both.
Had to learn to cook garlic, wheat, oat, soy, egg, dairy, and yellow food color free for a kido in my care for a few years but once I learned it wasn't so hard. And I was on a USDA food program so REALLY picky about protein and veggy and fruit and milk. We ate lots of rice dishes and I learned how to bake differently....
The one that was really hard was the garlic.... And I found yellow food coloring in some very strange places.
His mom when she told me about his food issues was worried I would have to say I could not keep caring for him. But then when I told her I was already doing some of that and I looked at this as a good challenge she was shocked. His issues showed up as really strong behavior issues.....

 

[RonDean]

On the plus side of your new dietary plans, this will probably be a good change for both of you. I know I eat to much processed food. I’ll keep my eyes open for new recipes!

I know many people have sensitivities and allergies to different foods. I ALSO know that some chemicals and substances are carcinogenic. But I think we should not confuse the two.

SOY: Soy allergy is more common in infants and young children than in older children and approximately 0.4% of infants in the U.S. have soy allergy. Most children eventually outgrow their allergy to soy, although some individuals remain allergic to soy throughout their lives. I've also known people who were allergic to dairy, nuts, shellfish, gluten, and so on. By all means - anyone so afflicted should avoid those substances.

Although there's a lot we still have to learn about cancer I think we should all avoid or reduce consumption of carcinogenics.

 

[jacqueg]

What part of the SOY is the allergy to? For example refined peanut oil won't necessarily trigger an allergic reaction...
https://health.osu.edu/wellness/exercise-and-nutrition/is-peanut-oil-safe-for-peanut-allergies

Can you isolate the specific ingredient?

Soy seems to be getting fairly ubiquitous as a food additive, especially soybean oil...

Like all legumes, soy contains sugars, protein, and fat. Paulette may have issues with one, two, or all three of the components. Figuring out which is a process of elimination. The process may or may not be worth it to her.

Does she also have problems with ordinary beans, or is it just soy? Keep in mind that when soy beans are fractionalized into those components for use as processed food additives, solvents are used, and people can be sensitive to those solvents.

I have issues with liquid dairy. I react to both casein - the milk protein - and lactose - the milk sugar. As it turns out though, I can consume as much cream - milk fat - as I want! But not 1/2 and 1/2, it's gotta be whipping cream. I know, life is tough all over...

 

[eDJ_]

Just a FYI on food born allergies in this link:

Allergy Awareness

Soy is among the most common food allergens. But all food allergies can be dangerous. Epinephrine is the first-line treatment for anaphylaxis, a severe whole-body allergic reaction that causes symptoms, including tightening of the airway.

 

[camperdan]

Yikes! Put on your chefs hat!! Kinda scary what they are cramming in our food now! A book I recently read is ULTRA PROCESSED PEOPLE by an English MD. If you have a fear of hospitals and want to have a good 'health span" ' grab this book. If you were appalled at the obesity rate and wondered " where the hell did that begin?" you would enjoy this book.

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Been going on for a long time. Yikes! Put on your chefs hat!! Kinda scary what they are cramming in our food now! A book I recently read is ULTRA PROCESSED PEOPLE by an English MD. If you have a fear of hospitals and want to have a good 'health span" ' grab this book. If you were appalled at the obesity rate and wondered " where the hell did that begin?" you would enjoy this book

 

[camperdan]

Just a FYI on food born allergies in this link:

Allergy Awareness

Well, soy is bad enough for those allergic, but for the rest of us knowing it's mainly GMO should motivate
to avoid it.

 

[RonDean]

Well, soy is bad enough for those allergic, but for the rest of us knowing it's mainly GMO should motivate
to avoid it.

Well...er....
I am not totally convinced that all GMOs are as bad as that. After all, almost the entirety of our modern foods have been modified in some way or other. Admittedly, we should have worked out the problematic ones given the time it has taken us from the original "wild" version to now. And I guess it might impact us and our allergies to some degree. - Just guessing there - My research says: The main concerns around GMOs involve allergies, cancer, and environmental issues — all of which may affect the consumer. While current research suggests few risks, more long-term research is needed.

 

[vanbrat]

I wish I had the link to an article I read awhile back about the wheat issues some folks are having. I don't know if I buy it or not. It was about the timing of harvesting wheat where decades ago it was harvested fully ripe, but now it is harvested somewhat green. Kind of like apples they are mostly ripe at the time of picking but are 'aged' in gas filled warehouses. There is a lot of 'stuff' for the common consumer to hear about.
My mom is positive the reason I am allergic to cherries is she ate buckets from the trees in her area the month before I was born. The doc who found why I was so sick with asthma and such when I was 30ish said it was that I ate PeanutButter just about daily cause it was one of the foods my kids ate without a fight, Amazing how much my asthma went away a week after I quit eating it, I was a latch key kid and ate it daily for years as I made my own breakfast and lunch growing up and it didn't bother me until 30's
Now it's so many researched things that are being found in so many over processed foods. I like to cook and find the food that is made with less handling is always so much better. But I understand for those that don't like cooking it is nice to just grab a box.... And even though I like to cook I still grab a box now and then

 

[NctryBen]

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Been going on for a long time. Yikes! Put on your chefs hat!! Kinda scary what they are cramming in our food now! A book I recently read is ULTRA PROCESSED PEOPLE by an English MD. If you have a fear of hospitals and want to have a good 'health span" ' grab this book. If you were appalled at the obesity rate and wondered " where the hell did that begin?" you would enjoy this book

Good stuff… the book not the processed food. Haha! You’d have thought more doctors would have been more proactive on this. I don’t think I had one regular dr say anything about the foods we eat. But if you get carried away on the internet, you’d have to starve, because no matter what someone has a negative opinion on it! So, know your source.

 

[RonDean]

I wish I had the link to an article I read awhile back about the wheat issues some folks are having. I don't know if I buy it or not. It was about the timing of harvesting wheat where decades ago it was harvested fully ripe, but now it is harvested somewhat green. Kind of like apples they are mostly ripe at the time of picking but are 'aged' in gas filled warehouses. There is a lot of 'stuff' for the common consumer to hear about.
My mom is positive the reason I am allergic to cherries is she ate buckets from the trees in her area the month before I was born. The doc who found why I was so sick with asthma and such when I was 30ish said it was that I ate PeanutButter just about daily cause it was one of the foods my kids ate without a fight, Amazing how much my asthma went away a week after I quit eating it, I was a latch key kid and ate it daily for years as I made my own breakfast and lunch growing up and it didn't bother me until 30's
Now it's so many researched things that are being found in so many over processed foods. I like to cook and find the food that is made with less handling is always so much better. But I understand for those that don't like cooking it is nice to just grab a box.... And even though I like to cook I still grab a box now and then

I've got a theory that respiratory issues are more likely to come from air quality or pesticides in the air than from food. It is just a very small sample size but I have never had any such problems or allergies. I grew up in a time and place with clean mountain air. I have relatives (with assumed similar genetics) that have had allergies and asthma issues. They were raised in a area with agriculture and heavy transportation corridors nearby.

As I said, just a theory.

 

[user 22017]

Well...er....
I am not totally convinced that all GMOs are as bad as that. After all, almost the entirety of our modern foods have been modified in some way or other. Admittedly, we should have worked out the problematic ones given the time it has taken us from the original "wild" version to now. And I guess it might impact us and our allergies to some degree. - Just guessing there - My research says: The main concerns around GMOs involve allergies, cancer, and environmental issues — all of which may affect the consumer. While current research suggests few risks, more long-term research is needed.

My concern about GMO's is the monopoly companies like Monsanto have over seed production. It can lead to a lack of diversity in seeds. Even if GMO's are safe, the food tastes bad. Especially tomatoes and oranges. Modified to withstand shipping long distances, they screwed up somewhere with the flavor.

My sister sends me oranges and grapefruits every Christmas from Florida and the oranges in stores pale in comparison. Same with tomatoes grown at home... they are juicy and packed with flavor. The ones sold in stores lack flavor and are often grainy in texture.

There are also legal issues involving GMO's that have impacted farmers in S. America and India, IIRC.

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/food-genetically-modified