Observations in a KOA

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Theadyn

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Had the itch, had to get out of town. Since it was just an overnight trip to get out of dodge, I didn't go far, just about 20 miles to the KOA. I wanted some hookups to try out my near new-to-me rig.

So I loaded up my little Chevy doggy (pre-named rescue doggy, I kept the name, she's been with me almost 11 years) and away we went.

The place was very shady, which was rare for Oklahoma. Grounds very well kept, lots of ammenities. Even a dog run with poop bags provided. Since we are right off I-40 there was constant noise from the cars going by, but that isn't a big deal to me.

To the right of me is a monstrous truck to pull a not quite new 5th wheel. I have not seen them leave the camper once. To the left of me what looks like a Subaru Outback wagon pulling a tiny lite travel trailer. How smart?! I thought. Decent gas mileage, and carrying some comforts with them.

So here I sit in my class C moho, with all the comforts, every convenience. I did cook out on the picnic table last night (and still needing to decide how to properly dispose of the ash and unburned briquets, later) and hang out outdoors after the temp got below 100 degrees. But otherwise, I've been very content to lounge inside reading a book and watching a video. The shower is great, the kitchen has everything I need, and the queen sized bed slept so well I should pinch myself!

I watched the couple on the left of me this morning, just out of curiousity mostly. Since their trailer is tiny, like teardrop size but a little taller, they were having to haul everything for breakfast out of the back of their wagon. Haul it all out, assemble, cook, make room to eat, eat, wash dishes, pack it all back up, haul it all back into said wagon. How exhausting!! So although I thought it was a really cool idea (!!), not sure I would enjoy doing that day in, day out, 3 meals a day, just for the better gas mileage. Just seems like wasted time I would much rather use doing something more enjoyable. But you never know, they may enjoy the symphony involved in eating. To each their own.

I guess all of this to say, I do prefer to have everything useable to me and where I can get to it easily, everything in it's place, uncluttered and easily available. I still am thinking of going with a smaller unit, a van, in the future, but I have what I have for now... a paid for class C that runs and everything works in it properly. Guess I will put up with it's crappier gas mileage and enjoy what I have.

Cheers all!!
 
That's a cool story Theadyn... the perspective of the C-camper over the tiny-camper. I've always wondered about that. Thanks for sharing!

I can almost assure you that the tiny-campers look up at the big Class C and 5th Wheel and actually feel sorrow for you guys (not envy). They do have a little more work to do for each meal, or sleep, but the freedom of movement is their reward. If you asked them I bet they would say that they LIKE having to setup for each meal and breakdown after. It is not a hassle, but a a tranquil part of their day that the couple spends together. It requires organization and communication (both are bonding experiences) followed by a good amount of gratification after.

Personally, I am right in between you both with my large camper van. I can pull up to a camping location and instantly begin "camping". I do not have to pop up my trailer, or plug in my RV, or dig out cooking supplies, or suffer single-digit-MPGs. I've always like the "jack of all trades" that a van is; Good at all things, great at nothing.

PS - I secretly admire Class-C camping. I also secretly admire teardrop camping. I guess I want to try camping each way, from tents, to tiny trailers, to Class-Cs, and beyond... they all have their pros and cons.
 
Van-Tramp said:
I can almost assure you that the tiny-campers look up at the big Class C and 5th Wheel and actually feel sorrow for you guys (not envy). They do have a little more work to do for each meal, or sleep, but the freedom of movement is their reward. If you asked them I bet they would say that they LIKE having to setup for each meal and breakdown after. It is not a hassle, but a a tranquil part of their day that the couple spends together. It requires organization and communication (both are bonding experiences) followed by a good amount of gratification after.

PS - I secretly admire Class-C camping. I also secretly admire teardrop camping. I guess I want to try camping each way, from tents, to tiny trailers, to Class-Cs, and beyond... they all have their pros and cons.

Right on the money, Van-Tramp!!

We've had every type of RV, except for a big bus conversion, and we're now back down to a tiny pop-up that we can pull behind the motorcycle, or behind our Toaster (Scion XB). We've also got an older Aladdin canned-ham TT, but it's still being restored and is not in use yet.

We don't mind at all the task of setting up our kitchen. Even behind the motorcycle, we've got all the cooking essentials to cook and prepare a full tastey meal. (it really blows people's minds how much we can carry in there.)
Even when we had our Class 'C'...we still did almost ALL of our cooking out on the picknic table. It keeps the heat and smells outta the camper, plus it just feels more like camping that way.


As for the KOA's...we've stayed at tons of them, all over the country. Some were great, and some absolutely SUCKED!!! (oddly enough, one we gave our worst rating to was featured in the TV show "Undercover Boss", and it had onna their highest park ratings! (never quite figured that one out!!??) :p
 
Everyone is different, go with your own level of comfort. I often wonder if id be better off in a C :)
 
I was camping in my 24' class C one time and watched while a huge fiver backed in to the next lot. The wife was directing, the husband was driving and both were majorly annoyed at not being able to make the sharp turn to get in the spot. I spoke to them that evening and they said they were so envious of my little rig, just pull in and park.
We see just about every possible combo here at the KOA where I work. From my view, the smaller the rig, the happier the campers. The huge rig owners are always complaining about the sharp turns and abundant trees. The ones that come in tiny campers leave positive reviews about the spacious wooded lots
 
So far my only experience with KOA has been extremely negative. Back around 2000, I drove my 4X4 Dodge Ramcharger from Tallahassee down to Orlando to see the sights. I overnighted in a KOA close to Disney - BIG mistake! I was using a tent, and asked for a 'tent spot'. They gave me this tiny sliver of grass along the back fence, between the bath house and the RV dump site. It was right on the perimeter road. So constant RV traffic all night long. The fence was the border of a sports stadium with many huge bright stadium lights, on all night. Oh gosh...... not a good night..... The onle reason they let me have that spot was it was too small to wedge an RV or TT into. After visiting some sights next morning, I left a day early. Oh, did I mention that it was middle of June - worst possible time t be in Mouseland? And they charged me $70 for the privilege of spending a horrid night there? I haven't set foot in a KOA since.....
 
I took my sister and brother-in-law on a trip through the Hill Country, to San Antonio and then to the coast a couple of years ago. We stayed in a KOA in San Antonio that was very nice. There was a city bus stop right across the street from the KOA so we were able to go sight seeing without having to drive and find parking spots. The park was very nice, well maintained, and was $35.00 a night if I remember correctly. I usually don't stay in privately owned campgrounds but this one turned out well and was very convenient for what we had planned to do.
 
Theadyn said:
Now I feel bad for owning a class C... :(
I've camped in a 1958 Porsche 1967 volvo wagon 1956 chevy cargo 1962 airstream 1972 stepvan omongst others i do not remember, and what I took away from that is. It is not the vehicle it's YOU. I will walk with a tent on my back. In my elder years I prefer a van small trailer and the company of good people.
 
No way of mobile living is right or wrong or better than another!

The ONLY thing that counts is, does it work for you!!

Never apologize for that.
Bob

PS, but we all secretly know MY WAY is the best way! :)
 
For $35, you might as well get a room.

10 gallons of gas, food for me for a week, food for the cat for 3 months, a 12v coffee pot, ice for 2 weeks.

I think I am getting cheap!
 
Within the next five years I plan to upgrade to a GM van with a cast iron 350 V-8 and a 4L80-E transmission.

I am still undecided if it will be a 6 wheel short wheelbase 20’ class C or a 130” wheelbase high top conversion van.
 
I guess I'm getting (getting?) cheap too! I complain at local state parks when I have to pay $15 per night to tent-camp, whereas a class 'C' pays $17. It doesn't seem fair to me (I think they have to cough up a few dollars more for hookups, but it's just $2-3). And $70 to tent camp near mouse-town? If an area is so popular that they can get away with highway robbery, I'm pretty sure I don't want to be there.
 
You should have seen what Da Mouse was demanding for gas! I bought gas up in North Orlando - $.50 a gallon cheaper! Fueling a heavy van or RV there would be ridiculous. ?
June in Florida isn't a good time for vacationing anyways - too hot.
 
LeeRevell said:
You should have seen what Da Mouse was demanding for gas! I bought gas up in North Orlando - $.50 a gallon cheaper! Fueling a heavy van or RV there would be ridiculous. ?
June in Florida isn't a good time for vacationing anyways - too hot.

That's the way they work, they have 'captive' customers who are willing to pay for the privilege...

Even though it's too flat for me, I have fond memories of Florida, being able to go a few hundred yards from my father's house and catch dinner, mmm steamed crabs, lovely...
 
I did manage to complete my main objective, finish Bob's book. :) Very well done Bob!!! Loved the book!
 
I look at the rate's that RV parks charge and only laugh.$35 per night times 30 days, that's $1035 per month. What can you do with that kind of money? $50 per night is $1500 per month, huh? A person could have a nice house for that kind of money.

Did you inquire at the front desk about MONTHLY RATES???

Usually, they're a fair bit lower then the nightly rates. If you don't ask, you'll never know.
 
When I first started this lifestyle, must of been '73. My first couple of weeks I decided on a shower. KOA in Kansas looked at my old van and put me in the "back lot". I was ecstatic, far from the children, dumb husbands and silly wives. The owner came by for a real nice visit along with his well mannered Setter. Later a splash of bourbon with a lady run off from a circus, along with the big tent pole and 3 dancing, less mannered, Terriers from the Act.
What more is there? Peace full camp site, far from the children, with a hot shower, and good company, (the dogs, the lady, and the manager in that order),
 
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