no build insulation

[townline]

I am thinking of attaching wool to the wall panels instead of the van for a no build. Anything wrong with this method?

 

[maki2]

Think it through. Visualize. A good quality insulation install requires a continuous no gaps or voids in the walls. Can you achieve that with your concept?

 

[bullfrog !]

I am thinking of attaching wool to the wall panels instead of the van for a no build. Anything wrong with this method?

I would be concerned about moisture/condensation build up I think.

 

[abnorm]

Thinsulate with it's black attached fabric and wide width would make your plan easier to achieve

 

[INTJohn]

^^^^ This.
Thinsulate is a dream. Yeah it’s more expensive but sooo easy to work with on the install and don’t need to worry about the moisture condensation you’ll get with wool or insects that are attracted to wool.

I looked at all the different ways to go and yeah I went with Thinsulate & 3M 90 spray adhesive. No regrets.

INTJohn

 

[maki2]

Are you talking about attaching insulation to the back of the plastic panels that are inside a vehicle? There is no room for sticking insulation to the backs of those panels. Pull the panels off and take an actual in person look at the spaces behind them. Then you can make a decision about how to proceed.

 

[rruff]

Thinsulate is a dream. Yeah it’s more expensive but sooo easy to work with on the install and don’t need to worry about the moisture condensation you’ll get with wool or insects that are attracted to wool.

Just to explain more, the condensation is caused by not having an airtight seal between the warm interior air and the cold van wall. That's why you need to seal it completely.

Some people seem to think wool's ability to absorb moisture and evaporate it takes care of this... but I don't see how it could if you are heating the interior all day for days. It will keep building up and saturate.

 

[maki2]

Wool is warm to wear when it is wet. But that is different than an enclosed space because there is air circulation on the exterior of clothing and blankets and you do dry them out sooner rather than never.

 

[townline]

Are you talking about attaching insulation to the back of the plastic panels that are inside a vehicle? There is no room for sticking insulation to the backs of those panels. Pull the panels off and take an actual in person look at the spaces behind them. Then you can make a decision about how to proceed.

I will build wood panels.

 

[townline]

Are you talking about attaching insulation to the back of the plastic panels that are inside a vehicle? There is no room for sticking insulation to the backs of those panels. Pull the panels off and take an actual in person look at the spaces behind them. Then you can make a decision about how to proceed.

Van is bare steel.

 

[rruff]

Van is bare steel.

The people who have that situation are voting for thinsulate. I have no experience with it myself. If you put the wood paneling on the interior over sealed insulation it should be ok. I'd probably be tempted make the surface of the thinsulate more durable and forgo an inner wall of wood.

Here is a description of using it, along with ez cool.

https://faroutride.com/thinsulate/

 

[LargeMarge]

I am thinking of attaching wool to the wall panels instead of the van for a no build. Anything wrong with this method?

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Sounds itchy.
Unless you plan on Merino or Alpaca [rubs fingers together in 'mucho dinero' gesture].
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An aside:
Decades ago, I saw a wool steering-wheel cover, the perfect hand warmer for cooler weather.
At the bottom of this image, I distinctly recall a scroll with the phrase "Just have to have it!" passing before my very eyes.
.
In the parking-lot of the parts store, I proudly unwrapped it, stretched it around my steering-wheel...
... and commenced to sneezing.
For extra entertainment, my eyes swelled shut while burning with the fire of a dozen suns.
.
The creases in my knuckles, my hands -- my neck! -- everything within visual range of that accursed torture device, everything, collected trillions of airborne shreds of that demonically possessed contraption as they laughingly conspired to ruin my afternoon.
And probably the remainder of my somewhat shortened existence.
.
At the return counter, the amused kosher took one amused look at my face -- by this point, my entire cranium was oddly misshapen and oozing multi-colored muck -- and casually asked in amusement "Do you think you might be allergic?"
.
I honestly truly do not know.
I probably should have some tests.
Opinions?

 

[maki2]

Van is bare steel.

If it was mine I would just do quick, easy not too expensive and definetly not too messy. Wool and fiberglass batts would both be off my list, too messy with all those tiny fibers and I do not want to inhale all those tiny fibers or suit up to keep them off my skin.
I went with foam board. I had to add furring strips so I could insulate and have paneling inside the fiberglass shell. It is not a lot of thickness but it does help and I am not in the cold north. I lived in Alaska for 7 years, had enough cold weather to last a lifetime!

 

[maki2]

If you want to adhere foam board to the back of plywood sheets before you fasten them in place I say go for it. You can always caulk the seams of the panels.

 

[rruff]

I probably should have some tests.

Only if you are poor and indigent. If you have any $$$ they will keep you there until it's all gone... and you won't know any more than when you came in...

I have a poor and indigent buddy who is a long time Eugene resident. A couple years ago he was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. They actually prescribed a drug for him that costs ~$10k/month. Apparently it works, because he's still kickin' and doing no worse last I checked.

I'm pretty sure that the HC coverage that I pay an insane amount of money for, would find at least 14 reasons why they should put me in hospice (at my expense of course) if I was in similar shape. The moral of the story is, OR is a good place to be if you are poor and indigent and need HC.

 

[maki2]

Maybe some of you have heard of using SIP construction that stands for structural insulated panel. Usually 3 layers two substrates with a foam insulating core in the middle. But as you really are not trying to do a lotof structural support glueing a layer of insulating foam to 1.8” plywood will be just fine for wall paneling. Forget the wool or thinsulite. That is an expensive and developes moisture issues too. Sometimes people forget to Keep It Simple and just get the job done without tons of labor or money involved.

 

[Gnome In Plaid]

.
Sounds itchy.
Unless you plan on Merino or Alpaca [rubs fingers together in 'mucho dinero' gesture].
.
An aside:
Decades ago, I saw a wool steering-wheel cover, the perfect hand warmer for cooler weather.
At the bottom of this image, I distinctly recall a scroll with the phrase "Just have to have it!" passing before my very eyes.
.
In the parking-lot of the parts store, I proudly unwrapped it, stretched it around my steering-wheel...
... and commenced to sneezing.
For extra entertainment, my eyes swelled shut while burning with the fire of a dozen suns.
.
The creases in my knuckles, my hands -- my neck! -- everything within visual range of that accursed torture device, everything, collected trillions of airborne shreds of that demonically possessed contraption as they laughingly conspired to ruin my afternoon.
And probably the remainder of my somewhat shortened existence.
.
At the return counter, the amused kosher took one amused look at my face -- by this point, my entire cranium was oddly misshapen and oozing multi-colored muck -- and casually asked in amusement "Do you think you might be allergic?"
.
I honestly truly do not know.
I probably should have some tests.
Opinions?

Last I knew, all fabric manufacturers have to use something that my seamstress auntie called "sizing". It's something on the fabric to make it so it goes through the manufacturing process without problems. She said to always wash any new fabric before doing anything with it. Short answer - I think it's some chemicals on the fabric and not the actual fabric itself.

 

[rruff]

Maybe some of you have heard of using SIP construction

Yes, you can even skip the steel walls entirely! Have nice flat walls! Great insulation! Much lighter!

That always made more sense to me. The steel bodies on vehicles are not made to be insulated.