Is it my imagination or is the noose tightning

[wagoneer]

It seems with the current tides of homeless the man is closing more avenues of freedom. 

 

[dragonflyinthesky]

According to my ex who traveled to some of our old boondocking spots 2 years ago, yes. He was very saddened by the restrictions.  This was in AZ.

 

[Willy]

 So far, it's pretty good up here in Canada when compared to the USA, but I can see that changing in another 20-30 yrs, when it might be like the USA is now. ..Willy.

 

[Ziggy Moon]

I've noticed a change happening here in Florida. Although, it seems as though it started more than a decade ago. We once had a very nice undeveloped, free beach here. It was way out of the way from the local population, and even more, unknown to tourist. <br><br>Now, while it is still undeveloped, it is not free, and it is heavily patrolled by rangers and other staff. A toll booth now keeps the less fortunate from entering. I guess they have to make up the money if you want patrolling rangers. <br><br>I'm a native here, I never wanted this change to this beautiful beach!! I have good reason to place full blame on those stuffy, nothing better to do snowbirds who decided to make my home, their retirement destination and mission.<br><br>Do it like it's always been done...... or GO HOME! <img src="/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" class="emoticon bbc_img"> MHO

 

[RogueRV2]

We have greater unemployment and the worst economic numbers since the Great Depression and it will only get worse, and eventually much 'worser' than the Great Depression. It will be known as the Greatest Depression, and much more... The Goobbermint will seek to enforce all sorts of petty laws to control the homeless and mobile homeless as these numbers will grow. The states such as Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, for a variety of reasons, will have fewer restrictions in comparison. I'm setting my rig up for the long term for the extreme cold weather of these states. The single best upgrade for this purpose and lower operating costs, is the wood stove. When I get down to Q I'll have some compact wood stoves for sale that I made, or one can look for tent stoves on the internet. Many of the Chinese stoves are junk. Get one with a 3 inch pipe or larger.....

 

[Willy]

What they'll do with the 'homeless' is, through various newly enacted (or otherwise) laws, to criminalize them. Throw 'em in jail and when they get out and have their newly minted 'record', force them into becoming new-age slave labour.. complete with omnipresent surveillance and no easy/legal way to leave the country. ..Willy.

 

[highdesertranger]

I think the noose has been tightening since the 60's. you see it everyday if you look. highdesertranger

 

[jeanontheroad]

Location, location, location. The US population had grown to about 319 million in 2010 and is estimated to be about 408 million in 2050. We all use resources and we all make a mess. Everyone wants to have access to and use the same desirable areas. If you don't want to run in the Rat Race, you are going to be pushed and priced out. On the other hand, if you are willing to go to less desirable areas, you can even own a chunk of it. You can get 40 acres of AZ desert for the same $35k that an acre of mostly flood plain easement and telephone pole easement will cost you in Keystone, SD. You can buy 2.5 acres of AZ desert in some areas for less than $3000. Of course, you'll have to use a septic tank for water and have it emptied periodically. You'll have to use a water tank snd have it filled periodically. You may have to depend on solar panels and propane for power and get satellite wifi. You may even prefer to go somewhere else in the hottest part of summer. But the place will be yours, all yours. No one can shoo you away.

 

[Stargazer]

Interesting reading...do a search for road closures national forests, especially in Oregon. Access to public lands is being restricted.

Reasons given are protection of wildlife and lands and I understand and agree. However, it is a concern -- where will it end?

 

[akrvbob]

having been on the other side for 4 years as a campground host, I have a different perspective.

Yes, we own the land, but a small percentage of us "owners" seem to hate the land and are doing everything they can to destroy it. Unfortunately, they are very, very good at it.

It's made much worse by ATVs that let them up the amount of destruction they do exponentially.

The only way to control that small percentage is to control and restrict everybody. It's sad and terrible but true.

The noose tightening on public lands isn't the government, it's the asshole owners.
Bob