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I am from the South and not familiar with rusted undercarriages.  Can someone who has experience look at the pictures here from this inspection and give me your advice?  It seems excessive.  (RV is in Illinois.)  I have not spent the extra $ to look up the VIN history yet, as I just now got this report back.

Thanks in advance everyone!

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I think these are the pictures you're asking people to look at? Might help people see them this way.
 

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I just looked at the photos TMG51 posted and the rust would be no issue at all where I live in the Ohio Valley where Kentucky, Ohio, and West Virginia come together.   A vehicle like this (If it is an RV) have very low miles
on it.   The rust may come more from sitting in the yard beside the house on a grass or gravel parking space.


A lot of the parts I see rusted are cast iron or steel components.  These will tend to rust within months of
leaving the Factory. 

Every vehicle I own presently would look about like this and there is no problem with any of them.

My Parents lived in the Ft Bragg area of North Carolina where the ground is sandy and very well drained and
their cars never rusted up like what these photos show.  What seemed to kill cars there was the hot summer sun.

Where you need to inspect on vehicles from Illinois, and the Great Lakes region is for where the salt (they use
extensive amounts of salt in those areas because of the lake effect snow and ice)  eats through the metal
where the hardware mounts to a unitized body vehicle.  If the vehicle has an actual frame,  look at the mounting parts to see if they have been eaten out.  As a rule of thumb,  if the fender wells are rusted through you should carefully inspect for damage where hardware mounts to that body.  


When my Father was down in the Caribbean for a few winters in his work he came back telling stories of how
the locals there purchased this Rust-Oleum product called "Rust Reformer" and mixed it 50/50 with
used motor oil.   They would drive the vehicle up on these concrete ramps where they could work under it and use paint brushes to brush off all the sand & salt build up on the undercarriage.   They would next blow it
clean with compressed air and finally spray the warm motor oil/Rust-Oleum all over the bottom of the vehicle.
They did this once a year he said.  I've never tried it but he did show some pictures he took of the guys doing it.  They said it worked well around salty wet conditions.  What I can tell you about salt water on a car undercarriage is that between 40 and 50 degrees F  the sunlight tends to make the salt water and metal parts
think that they are a battery.  This is when the metal is most damaged.   Around the coastal areas you will often see Car Wash Businesses have a strip of 2 X 5 with a groove cut through the middle of it and a 1/2 pipe
with small nozzles installed in it to deliver high pressure water spray to the bottom of the car.   The car is often driven over this device several times when returning from the beach. (if the car/truck/suv etc was taken out to where it was wet to surf fish.

That's what I can tell you.
 
whats the asking price? the rust looks pretty normal for that part of the country,would have to be hands on to know for sure,make sure the leaf spring shackles are solid,i would need to spend 2-3 grand on getting it road worthy,suspension,brakes,tires and a bunch of little stuff
 
TMG51 said:
I think these are the pictures you're asking people to look at? Might help people see them this way.

There are a lot more pictures in the link, as well as a full inspection.  I don't think clicking on a link is too bothersome.
 
goingNOwhere said:
There are a lot more pictures in the link, as well as a full inspection.  I don't think clicking on a link is too bothersome.

Yep there are a lot more pictures there. I had to click through quite a few to find the rusty undercarriage ones which seemed to be the focus of your question. Many people here can't do that due to bandwidth restrictions associated with the mobile lifestyle (and others just won't want to). Just trying to be helpful.

There are a few interesting interior shots in there too for anyone else who wants to scroll through them.
 
eDJ_ said:
I just looked at the photos TMG51 posted and the rust would be no issue at all where I live in the Ohio Valley where Kentucky, Ohio, and West Virginia come together.  

That's what I can tell you.
Thank you for your input.  I feel like i'm in over my head and now fear is telling me not to purchase.  It needs new shocks, new front tires, new engine battery, possibly new radiator, new muffler, and that's just the visible repairs. I know all vehicles I look at are going to need some repair but the rust scares me.  the shoddy repair work captured also makes it seem like the previous owner didn't care about the van and it was just a patch job to sell it.  Seems like they didn't take very good care of it. (no pride in ownership to me means lack of upkeep)
 
As a lifelong resident of the northeast, I can say as a fact, that there are no rust issues of any significance here, period. The claim that the propane tank needs to be replaced is BS, BTW. Every tank looks like that, here in salt country, after a decade. In my neighborhood, Dodge vans of that vintage are long gone for one simple reason. They have rotted into the ground. On a scale of 1-10, given the age of the rig, I would give the undercarriage an 8.5. Overall, the vehicle is well graded by the surveyor. It's in fair condition, with a lot of small, yet poorly done repairs, and a long list of deferred maintenance items. You have been give a long list of well documented issues that you can easily place a fair value on (new tires, radiator, shocks, etc...) and use as negotiating tools. The shoddy repairs might not be what you think. Some folks just have very little in the way of skills, and a need to try to fix anything they can. I have a buddy with a fairly new fifth wheel trailer that looks like hell, since he tries to fix everything and shouldn't be allowed near a hammer or screwdriver. As a retired snowbird, I see this fairly frequently. I Can't tell you what's best, but that van wouldn't scare me in the least, and certainly doesn't have rust issues worth worrying about.
 
First, thanks for posting the inspection, I have never seen one. You should pay for a car fax if you are truly interested. The front bumper is off kilter on both sides for a reason. Something happened. It would be wise to find out why and the car fax may have that info. An important thing about the inspection details is the problems found can be used in bargaining. The chassis rust as others have said is the result of a 15 year old vehicle driving around (and being parked.) Get prices for new tires, exhaust replacement, main and coach batteries, the radiator and the transmission cooler (a radiator for the transmission) need to be completely inspected, repaired and maybe replaced so there are no leaks at all. Basically you should get estimates for all the things the inspector noted. This must be really exciting for you. If you aren't a good negotiator, find someone who is and take them with you for the deal making. If you do buy it, drive straight to a tire shop and have them replaced and have the brakes inspected. Get all the belts and hoses replaced soon as well when the radiator work is done. What price are they asking?
 
goingNOwhere said:
There are a lot more pictures in the link, as well as a full inspection.  I don't think clicking on a link is too bothersome.

For future reference, many of our members have limited bandwidth so clicking on a link and searching through pictures to find relevant information can be not only bothersome but not do-able.

When asking for help, you really want to make it as easy as possible for those whom you are asking. We're fortunate, on this forum, to have many members who will go the extra mile and post those pictures for you.
 
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