covid information

[rvwandering]

Please post only useful and relevant information on this thread.
IPA refers to isopropyl alcohol

 

[Qxxx]

As someone who is over 65 and also hunkered down, for now, I plan to try getting groceries via home delivery. Hopefully, the stores will greatly expand these services, rather than let them become a constriction point. And better to limit number of people inside the stores. So, I have been looking for trend information.

The other thing is, many stores now allocate times dedicated for "senior" shopping, but a friend in Atlanta emailed that the local store had huge lines of seniors outside and they were shoulder to shoulder inside. Duh, mobbing together of the "most" susceptible.

10. Low contact delivery, besides specific stores.

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...-grim-economic-news-many-companies-are-hiring

https://www.businessinsider.com/online-grocery-delivery-service-new-york-city

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/tech/instacart-leave-at-my-door/index.html

https://www.instacart.com/help/section/200761964

 

[Qxxx]

For travelers, here is a website I have been using for sometime ...

11. 100s of online Road Cameras.

http://oss.weathershare.org/

 

[gtinseth]

This came out last night, the coronavirus found on cruise ship surfaces 17 days after it was evacuated.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/coronavirus-found-on-diamond-princess-surfaces-17-days-later/

I presume that anything I touch outside my home could have the virus on it, and act accordingly.

The NYPost didn't do a very good job summarizing that study. The CDC study shows that viral RNA is detectable after 17 days, not the live virus. This is kind of like the difference between finding a footprint and a foot. There isn't anything in the study to indicate you could become sick from the viral residue. I am no expert, but have read what a couple of smart folks wrote about that study.

 

[WanderingRose]

I still think it’s a cautionary tale, and the article recognized the limitations.

From the article:

“The coronavirus “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess but before disinfection procedures had been conducted,” according to the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

However, the report stressed that the research “cannot be used to determine whether transmission occurred from contaminated surfaces” and whether the traces were active.”

 

[Qxxx]

As of March 24th, this page has a map of the 23 states that have "shut down non-essential" businesses. Provided as information only, if you wish to comment on this, please do so on another thread.

12. States in "shutdown".

https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/NonEssentialBusinessClosures_032420_v04_SD_hpEmbed_25x14_992.jpg
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/states-shut-essential-businesses-map/story?id=69770806

 

[rvwandering]

From FEMA  - Coronavirus Rumor Control: https://www.fema.gov/coronavirus-rumor-control

 

[Qxxx]

This link was sent to me by my off-forum angel. Written by an MIT-trained physicist who has been studying pandemics for more than 15 years. I am highlighting some salient points.

13. re Immediate 5-week National Lockdown.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ive-week-national-lockdown-column/2890376001/

"One in 7 cases require hospitalization and 5% require intensive care with ventilators to survive".

"During the first two weeks of a lockdown, infected individuals will either recover from mild cases of COVID-19 at home or seek medical attention for the 14% of cases that are severe".

"We know a U.S. lockdown can work because it worked in China. At the height of its COVID-19 crisis in mid-February, China had locked down an estimated 760 milllion people, approximately half of its population. This policy was so successful that Wuhan is now much safer from coronavirus than New York City or Washington, D.C. The few new COVID-19 cases in China now stem from foreign travelers rather than local transmission, and all are safely quarantined".

 

[WanderingRose]

I’m inclined to agree with this recommendation.

It would seem to me that there would need to be a lockdown and a period of time with no new cases, to know that the virus has been beaten back.

Recommendations coming out of both hard hit Spain and equally hard hit Italy, if I recall correctly, are that there must be both widespread testing and contact tracing of each positive result, with quarantine and isolation.

It’s a mess.

 

[crofter]

Dr. Lipkin say that it's not that bad, spesking to India TV.  -crofter

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/vid...at-coronavirus-1652451-2020-03-04?jwsource=cl

 

[Qxxx]

I moved a discussion of several points to the other thread.

https://vanlivingforum.com/showthread.php?tid=39422&pid=488330#pid488330

 

[RVTravel]

The USA raced past China in total confirmed cases today.

 

[Qxxx]

As of March 24th, this page has a map of the 23 states that have "shut down non-essential" businesses. Provided as information only, if you wish to comment on this, please do so on another thread.

12. States in "shutdown".

https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/NonEssentialBusinessClosures_032420_v04_SD_hpEmbed_25x14_992.jpg
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/states-shut-essential-businesses-map/story?id=69770806

This page has been updated. ID, MT, CO, and MN are also now in shutdown mode.

 

[Qxxx]

This website is dedicated to info in rural America. Articles indicate infection cases are higher in places with high recreational activity, and also that rural communities may not want outsiders invading their towns. If I were still traveling, I might hunker down near small cities rather than tiny towns.

14. Daily Yonder, re rural America.

https://www.dailyyonder.com

 

[WanderingRose]

One thing to consider if thinking of moving to a smaller town to sit out this pandemic, is that small towns don’t always have hospitals or even clinics, should you become ill for any reason and need care.

If they do have medical resources, they are very limited.

Smaller communities out east are seeing an influx of New Yorkers moving out of the city to their summer homes, and concerns in those communities about that increase in population also increasing the burdens on limited medical resources.

Something to think about.

 

[bullfrog]

Lake Mead shutdown I understand after having 40,000 visitors the previous day. Many people seem to be using the situation to recreate with their family and even groups not practicing social distancing. I would hope they would realize there are many of us that are trying to isolate ourselves not wanting to join their party. Parks need to close and limit visitation as non essential workers there have been told to stay home and avoid social contact. Meanwhile visitors complain of locked bathrooms and lack of services. We are still having a hard time keeping boat owners 6' away during required inspections for invasive aquatic species in order to prevent their spread spoiling more fresh water areas. All the while people are still putting boats on the lake here at Glen Canyon Recreation Area. So far there are several of my friends and coworkers are in self confinement as they find they have been exposed to the virus or others that may have and not been tested. Sad state of affairs in a place that should be easy to keep isolated as it is so remote.

 

[Qxxx]

In line with the previous post, here is an information link. Unfortunately this will impact people going north from AZ who wanted to avoid traveling through Vegas. Note there is a large area just south of Overton NV (and north of the Lake Mead NRA north entrance) that had 100 or more RVs when I went through there 2 1/2 weeks ago.

15. Lake Mead NRA Entrance Closures.

https://www.nps.gov/lake/planyourvisit/temporary-operational-adjustments.htm

 

[MrAlvinDude]

A link to the free and open source John Hopkins University database, that everybody seem to be referencing and using to produce their graphs and maps these days, at github: https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19


On that github page they also reference these visual tools to use the database: 

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Visual Dashboard (desktop):[/font]
[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,]https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,]Visual Dashboard (mobile):[/font]
[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,]http://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61[/font]

[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,]Lancet Article:[/font]
[font=-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont,]An interactive web-based dashboard to track COVID-19 in real time[/font]

 

[MotorVation]

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this post. Please move it if not. Thanks

Walmart in Lake Havasu AZ is offering store pickup as of right this minute. That could change but there are 3 time slots available for tomorrow, Saturday the 28th of March 2020

 

[MrAlvinDude]

A very interesting video about COVID-19 data. As it not only talks about what has and is happening, but it also takes a stab at: How, and when, can we tell if things are under control, or will end.



Link to an interactive version of the graph tool used in the video:
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/