beware of use taxes if you have to register your vehicle in CA

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I'm still resistent to having to do this, but I didn't prepare because I didn't know I'd be hit with such taxes.

I bought my van last year but haven't gone vandwelling yet. I move to California (to move my mom and sister out of Arizona) and we move pretty far from the Arizona border (650 miles). My registration on my van ran out at the end of December and I go to the Department of Motor Vehicles to register the vehicle. I find out that I owe over $350 in use taxes (not including the registration charges) because I didn't pay sales/use taxes in Arizona. I bought it through a private party and Arizona didn't require me to pay sales taxes on it! They told me that they charge the use tax unless I bought it and brought it into California more than a year ago. The vehicle originated in CA so I hope I don't have any of the emissions penalties (it passed the smog check.)

I read that the state of Washington also does this.

I don't think its fair that I have to pay use taxes when I was an Arizona resident at the time I bought the vehicle. Use taxes are primarily intended for residents of the state that buy stuff from out of state to avoid buying from businesses in the state (like when you buy something on the internet from a company out of state and get to avoid paying sales taxes.) Charging someone from out of state use taxes is unfair and nothing more than ripping off an out of stater.

They also verify the information you put with the motor vehicle department in the state you had the vehicle last registered with.


I know what some of you are thinking:

"Why don't I just reregister it in Arizona?"

I try to avoid trouble with the law. I hate it but in some cities with corrupt police, they can even plant evidence to get you arrested.

I would not really be staying in California that much (only in the winter and sometime in the summer) but I also have a crossover SUV that I'm lending to my mom and I'm worried that she'll eventually be hassled for driving a vehicle with out of state plates in a small city (pop 65,000) that's not part of the contiguous part of a metropolitan area.

I already had my two vehicles smog checked (costed me $68 for the van) and the info was sent to the CA DMV.

I've had bad experiences before when trying to save money. Still, it's hard to stomach what might eventually come out to be $620 (including the smog check) to register my van (about $250 for my crossover SUV) for a total of $870. If I reregistered my vehicles in Arizona, it'd cost only $180. I can see why so many people hate this state.


Actually it'd cost $235 (because of the smog check on both vehicles) to reregister the vehicle in Arizona

It'd cost $170 to drive my Crossover SUV to Phoenix to reregister (I have to do the smog check there as well) and more if I can't sleep in my vehicle (since it's not been altered to sleep in.) I'd be passing by the RTR if I go in my van so it's not a problem to go to Phoenix on it ($50 extra.) A mailbox (with a physical address) might cost about $120 for 6 months. So the total cost to reregister the two vehicles NOW since I left Arizona would be at least $575 (not including the van trip to go to Quartzsite, AZ to the RTR.) This doesn't include if I get pulled over.
 
I'm really aggravated at our Texas government, but hearing stories like this makes me feel just a bit better. I'm just sorry you have to deal with it. It costs me about 75.00 per year to have my vehicle tagged and inspect, also because I live in a rural small town...NO SMOG.
 
There is a mail forwarder here in Quartzsite that charges $125 a year and needs a $30 deposit for mail forwarding. If you register the vehicle in Parker, you don't need a smog check. The county requires them, not the state, this county doesn't do smog checks. However, if you have a residence in Phoenix they will catch you but if you live in the car they will not.
Bob
 
Welcome to California, the land of taxation. Hopefully you will figure out a workaround. The cost of gas alone to RTR will kill your pocketbook too.
 
Why would you register in CA at all?

Simply go to http://www.yourbestaddress.com/ (or any other service, this is just one of many) and get your vehicle(s) registered in SD for half the price and no emissions testing. It can all be done over the phone and vial mail, so no hair off your back.
 
Van-Tramp said:
Why would you register in CA at all?

Simply go to http://www.yourbestaddress.com/ (or any other service, this is just one of many) and get your vehicle(s) registered in SD for half the price and no emissions testing. It can all be done over the phone and vial mail, so no hair off your back.
What about drivers licenses and insurance?


South Dakota requires real id compliance. As a Libertarian I oppose Real ID as unconstitutional governmental overreach. Any good states that have the same service that do not comply with Real ID?
 
You can keep your current license and your vehicle insurance is based off where you live (pick which address you want). Tell them the SD address and I bet your insurance drops by half over a CA address, so even better!
 
Not sure what the requirements are for those two. SD and FL are very, very full-time-RV friendly when it comes to vehicle registration an such. It is very common to find many full-timers with SD plates because they do not have to ever set foot in SD while many other states require proof of residency, emissions test, inspections, etc.

Call the number on the website, they have all the answers.
 
Yeah, except for real id they seem great. As far as that goes though I already live in Florida and it doesn't seem any different from them. Real ID is my only reason for switching states.
 
Texas hasn't gone the REAL ID route yet, and is also very full-timer friendly.

Regards
John
 
I understand that your vehicle must be inspected to be registered in TX, which means you have to bring each vehicle all the way to TX every time in needs to be registered? Correct me if I am wrong.

I'm not sure what the issue is with REAL ID, in fact this is the first I have ever heard of it. I admit I'm not fond of more personal information being collected by the gov. Sounds like you have an option with TX, but the above concern may be a deal-breaker too. Just check on that item first.
 
I am glad I will have a Missouri address to fall back on. Registration is due in June, and will be $68 for 2 years, plus $12 for the safety inspection. I leave in July, so Shazam!

My insurance will be cheaper, as the homeowners policy on the furniture I am "storing" at my children's place also covers the contents of the van. Also by having more than one policy, I get a large discount, so that policy will be almost nothing for $15K of coverage. Life, $500k auto, and renters will be running perhaps $150 a month.
 
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