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lenny flank said:
It sounds to me like dudes who are just pissed off that they can't get laid.  ;)

LOL. There is some of that to be sure! Yet, there really are also thoughtful sweet guys who just are tired of the effort. They don't seem angry or bitter at all but more seem to find MGTOW as permission to not be coupled while being OK with it. I can appreciate that. I am like that as a woman. I wasn't getting what I wanted from men so I just gave up and put my energies elsewhere which, honestly, has worked out well for me. I guess I am WGTOW ;)
 
eDJ_ said:
Yeah the MGTOW item is a growing thing.  It isn't a movement as some suspect,  but an attitude men have aligned with to distance themselves from issues that foil them with so many "types" of women today.   It doesn't mean that they are all "Haters",  as they aren't.  
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Since my getting on the Internet I've been watching trends.   I've noticed in the late 90's so many young girls were saying,  "My mothers Feminism has ruined guys for me today".   it seems this has come to a "school of thought" with many men today and even some women are supporting it (called Honey Badgers). 

I'm sure this is much of the intrigue for men to get a Van or some form of vehicle that they can live in while clearing their mind and purging their emotions.

One of the more notable spokes people on this Youtube circuit is Sandman.  If you wish to view his videos.
Very well stated.
 
lenny flank said:
It sounds to me like dudes who are just pissed off that they can't get laid. 
Um, no. That wasn't a problem at all. The problem was the price of getting laid.  I have been through that meat grinder multiple times, losing property, houses, and lots of money.
Had a GF off and on over the years, and a long hiatus from her for multiples of years before I ran across her again and took her out to dinner for old time sake. Just on a friendly basis mind you. No intention of getting laid for my effort, but since I truly cared for this girl once, I did it strictly out of friendship. Plus I was doing well enough at the time I figured it was the thing to do. She saw that I had a Trans Am, 71 El Camino, and a nice tricked out Jeep Cherokee along with a three bedroom, two bath condo.
We had a lovely dinner, after which I drove up and parked right next to her car so she could get right in and go home. Next thing I knew, she started bawling and telling me how much she loved me. I sat there listening till she was done, and waiting for my reaction. It wasn't what she expected. With a stone cold poker face I asked her why it had taken her ten years to all of a sudden tell me this? She left and I didn't see her again for another couple years, when we dated again briefly.
 
I plan on being the biggest RV whore out there. Hey I"m 52 not dead. ... Why not have a lover in every state? A little van nookie here, a little van nookie there.



Joking of course. ....
 
You're getting way off topic, here.

The question is, "Are most vehicle dwellers single?"
 
After 19 years of marriage and now divorced all I can say is been there, done that but you can keep the t shirt.
 
DuneElliot said:
I have wondered how hard it's going to be to meet someone in this lifestyle with not being in one place long enough to form long-term friendships/relationships.

Come to the RTR and you'll form the best long-term relationships of your life!
 
bullfrog said:
 Compromise isn't a word to be taken lightly.  Finding 2 people that value each other enough to make compromises is rare in this group in my opinion.  Most would rather not have company if they have to compromise it seems. 

This is the whole issue among Rubber Tramps, a deep need for independence, even while enjoying the company of others.

I'll compromise a little, but not enough for the vast majority of "normal" women.

And if she is a woman I could be with--she doesn't want to compromise for me either!!!!!
 
For all the bad relationships people have been in and the beating you can take, it's understandable why so many have the views on relationships that they have. But it works the other way too, when you actually find the right person and don't settle, a good and real relationship is a life changing experience. One of the best things in the world I think.
 
I think the older we get (and most of us seem to be old here) the more baggage we acquire - the barriers we put up based on past failures, the wariness of being taken advantage of, the more adamant we are to do things OUR way. To take on a relationship at our age, we also take on all the ghosts of past relationships, the adult problem children, the financial failures. Many of us (myself included) are pretty damaged by life. It's hard enough to meet that perfect person when we're young and starry eyed, but the chance of two people meeting - at our age - who are both willing to compromise is slim. After all, we are the people who were willing to pick up and go - we just aren't as dependent as most people on the security of another person.

Now, if your talking about a relationship with dogs.......Todd and I have never had a cross word between us and I LOOK for ways to give him as much freedom and autonomy as I possibly can. I suspect he'll never leave.
 
I came out to the desert to heal. The sunshine and nature have amazing powers. If I blame others for my failed relationships I will never heal. I was involved in what happened, participated in the insanity, and bought the T Shirt. My hope would be to meet others who take personal responsibility for their baggage and insanity. Life is a journey and I am only rowing my boat. I have no illusions of meeting someone to complete me or save me. ....

I'm in the last third of my life and I am trying to enjoy it. New friends are welcome. But those new friends need to be people who are also on a healing journey, people who point fingers need not apply.


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Blanch said:
I came out to the desert to heal. The sunshine and nature have amazing powers. If I blame others for my failed relationships I will never heal. I was involved in what happened, participated in the insanity, and bought the T Shirt. My hope would be to meet others who take personal responsibility for their baggage and insanity. Life is a journey and I am only rowing my boat. I have no illusions of meeting someone to complete me or save me. ....  

I'm in the last third of my life and I am trying to enjoy it. New friends are welcome. But those new friends need to be people who are also on a healing journey, people who point fingers need not apply.


Well said ..... and very true
 
One Awesome Inch said:
After 19 years of marriage and now divorced all I can say is been there, done that but you can keep the t shirt.

I can understand that after 27 years of marriage and being single now for 11 years. Too bad it took half my life to realize I'm happier single with very few responsibilities that allow me to fulfill my need to roam the country free.  However I do have two great daughters out of it, one similar to me that also thrives on freedom and independence. We even share a few activities together like hiking and motorcycling. So, no complaints in these, the last few decades (or years) of life.
 
deserttrails said:
Too bad it took half my life to realize I'm happier single with very few responsibilities that allow me to fulfill my need to roam the country free.

It's a shame that our culture (most cultures?) relentlessly pressures people to be in relationships while rarely promoting being single as a healthy way of being.

I can't answer the OP's question, but it does make me curious if people who live unconventional lifestyles would be more open to unconventional (open, poly, etc) relationships?
 
Our culture, and most cultures, rely on people being together and producing (hopefully) well adjusted and productive new generations, in order to keep new generations of taxpayers paying taxes, so those of us who don't do that get shamed
Even animals form families, temporarily, based on mutual benefit, and then disolve those families once the benefit isn't there anymore
Monogamy is pushed because Polygamy doesn't quite work out for the lower level men in a society, who do all or most of the infrastructure work, and without an reasonable expectation of a family, men tend to enter a hedonistic lifestyle where we're not very productive, working only enough to provide for our most basic needs
Give us a roof, food, and some form of entertainment, and most men are content, if we've determined we have no mating options

If you have your infrastructure workers being hedonistic and unproductive, the society cannot survive

I do think being single is far more healthy for us individually, but it's not such a good model for maintaining a functional society

Watch the video 'people farming' on youtube if you have the data and inclination
 
Interesting political philosophy, but the harsh reality is that humans are primates, and like all primates, we form social groups to survive and reproduce. It's all part of the darwinian game.

Even the most isolated and individualistic of us is still a social animal---which is why we are here online, interacting socially with others in our community. We are innately social animals--our genetics have made us social animals for millions of years. Humans can no more live as isolated individuals than can honeybees or antelope.




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IanC said:
Now, if your talking about a relationship with dogs.......Todd and I have never had a cross word between us and I LOOK for ways to give him as much freedom and autonomy as I possibly can.  I suspect he'll never leave.

Ah the dog! Mans best friend. I don't know when or where I heard it but it explained why the dog is mans best friend. It goes something like this......

"Lock your wife and your dog in the trunk for an hour and see who is happy to see you when you open it"
 
vtwinkicker said:
"Lock your wife and your dog in the trunk for an hour and see who is happy to see you when you open it"
You beat me to it. :p
 
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