will pay $$$ for meal plan with shopping list

[offroad]

so people want to raise some money? &nbsp;find me a meal plan!! &nbsp;requirements are<br><br>1) it has a shopping list with all the ingrediants combined<br>2) it is for a whole year of food, broken down into two week shopping intervals<br>3) it is nutritionally balanced with listing of calories<br>4) recipes do not require all day to prepare<br>5) it is for one person<br>6) ingrediants are commonly found at any supermarket<br><br>7) the cost for food is reasonable frugal<br><br>so far only www.emeals.com is close but it does not do nutrition very well at all. so i stick to the vegitarian plan from that company<br><br>

 

[James AKA Lynx]

OK<br><br> 360 pounds of rice and 300 pounds of beans per year. 30 different spices, about 1/4 pound of each. more for favorite pepper (not black). 2+ year shelf life.This will fit into 4 foot lockers. Cook 1 pound of rice and 3/4 pound of beans per day. Spice differently each day. Add whatever raw leafy and a few citrus. Eating the peel will get the most vitamin out of them.&nbsp; Get from forest or store.<br><br>Good luck, This is the cheapest that I have found buying at one time. Will provide calorie and protein needs. May want to add a multi vit if you cannot get greens. <br><br>Best, James AKA Lynx

 

[Ziggy Moon]

How much is offroad gonna pay ya now, Lynx?&nbsp;<img src="/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" class="emoticon bbc_img">

 

[James AKA Lynx]

Enough gas to run my van for a ????<br><br>James AKA Lynx

 

[offroad]

thats a good start to a meal plan. would like a little more diversity. but good idea about what to get for bug out survival food.

 

[James AKA Lynx]

With the rice you could add 2 cans of ??? per day. That's 60 cans a month. Shelf life of 2 years +. That reduces your stove top time.<br><br>Depending on how much room you have will depend on how long you can stay away from stores.<br><br>I would stay away from a yearly meal plan. Never could do it. Having enough spices and recipes is the key for happy eating. Also, not having to eat what you like all the time is helpful.<br><br>My needs change with how much I do or NOT do every day.<br><br>If you do not want to cook as much, Try a eastern way of cooking/feeding. Do not eat before there is enough light to see the lines in your hands. eat/Snack until 1pm and do not eat after that. What you cook will stay good for 4 hrs or a little more. Cook 1 big pot and you will not have to cook the rest of the day. You will also not have any dirty dishes to clean at night Nor a hot stove or fire.<br><br>You can soak the rice for 1 - 2 hours and reduce the cooking time by half. A tall heavy SS pot with a metal lid will do you well. IF you want, get an ice chest that it will fit in and some towels. After boiling, wrap the pot in towels and put in ice chest. It will slow cook for some time and will reduce your stove top time.&nbsp;<br><br>Best, James AKA Lynx

 

[Wild_E]

Well if your thinking of the above meal planner, try adding this as well.<br><br>= Amaranth seeds, eat them many ways and also make flour<br>= Quinoa seeds " &nbsp; &nbsp; " &nbsp; &nbsp; " &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;"&nbsp;<br>= Honey enough said is also great on and in the above food, makes it more &nbsp;breaky friendly too<br>= Cinnamon, real cinammon see above.<br>= arrow root flour (sp??)<br>= corn bread mix, non gmo .. can be made into pancakes as well or muffins<br>= Vega and Vegan brands powdered meal replacers and such, non gmo<br>&nbsp; ==== add to anything above<br>also check out Halalua Acres for some other powdered non gmo products, meals etc<br><br>someone posted that they picked up some Ovalteen and Powdered milk, mixed together, so just measure and add water..<br>=== milk,,, yuk ... maybe find some powdered soy/almond and such do the same thing<br><br>just some of the things that I do as well..<br><br>O am getting into sprouting, look for sprouting chart that tells you how long to soak, how quick they grow and how many times a day to water.<br>same are very easy, some not..&nbsp;<br><br>

 

[Wild_E]

awww. James..<br>slow cooking with Hay Box cookers and Thermal Box cookers.. another name - I do just that myself sometimes<br><br>might want to get a book/books/guides on Wild Edibles, just learning more on that myself<br>...need more spices too boot, thanks for reminder

 

[James AKA Lynx]

A cook book for single meals for scratch would be well worth it, just for the spice data alone. I have one.<br><br>James AKA Lynx

 

[offroad]

am finding that some recipes i use have an irritating variety of spices. &nbsp;my palet is not the sophisticated to tell the difference between twenty spices. ten maybe.&nbsp;

 

[James AKA Lynx]

The most I like to use is 5 or less. However, in making different dishes from different countries, it is best to start with a good cook book.<br><br>James AKA Lynx

 

[offroad]

Found this link for $100 a month.&nbsp; Will try to integrate it into my thoughts and plans for food and recipes and living well.&nbsp; Thats how much all the groceries on this plan will supposedly cost you in 2011 dollars.&nbsp; supposedly.<br><br>http://flybytheseat.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/healthy-meal-plan-for-under-100month/<br><br>Also am experimenting with a new meal plan service that is kind of expensive, but actually seems to have more intelligence, and less smarmy sales tactics (does everyone have to sell, instead of just being a great intelligent resource?)&nbsp; there service costs $15 a month and you can get discounts as you lengthen the service.&nbsp; <br><br>www.mealime.com and that's not misspelled.<br><br>My old emeals.com service was just getting weird with all the extra 20 to thirty spices they expect over the year.&nbsp; Just doent find having tens of spices to be useful.&nbsp; Please the ingredients are just weirdly complex.<br><br><br><br><br><br>

 

[Wild_E]

I have looked at that shopping list a few times now and can not figure out how it is for 1 month !<br><br>They are buying 1 can of everything, how can 1 can of black beans last a month?<br>why not buy a bag of black beans, a bag of mixed beans then having those bags last two or more weeks. Cost about $2.50-$4 per bag.<br>why not buy bags of Quinoa or Amaranth, mix with beans and brown rice, add in some wild rice, some diced veg and voila very healthy meal.<br><br><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Last month, picked up a bag of Soup Mix;</span><br style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">ingredients include, pease, beans, some soup pasta, mixed dried veg. This 10kg bag totaled about $22 this bag will last me over 2 months maybe 3 even if I had some every 2nd day.&nbsp;</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Bag of Corn Bread Mix size 10kg, will last 2-4 months, use like bread, muffins or pancakes<br><br>At the time I also picked up a 2kg bag of dehydrated veg, I have used 1/4 of it by now. So it will last another 2 months at this rate, price was also $15-20 off the top of my head<br>Everything picked up at a Bulk Grain Store, the one that supplies Bulk Barn in Canada</span></div>

 

[James AKA Lynx]

Buying in bulk - I really check the ounce price compared to the non-bulk. Surprising how many times it is more.&nbsp; (at the places where I shop)<br><br>James AKA Lynx

 

[trouble1138]

I am not really into the whole paleo thing and this does seem expensive but it does come with shopping list and meal plan.&nbsp;<a href="http://personalpaleocode.chriskresser.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://personalpaleocode.chriskresser.com/</a>

 

[RV-Kitty]

The problem I ran into buying beans or rice in bulk were those grain insects. Tiny little bugs that make the food webby and their tiny little white worms. Keeping these insects out of natural grains and beans (seeds) seems to be impossible unless you can keep it all refrigerated, in an airtight metal container or in a freezer. I'm back to buying a few lbs at a time. <br><br>BTW, if a few insect eggs are already in the seeds or rice/grain, keeping them airtight is a waste of time.

 

[Guest]

If you have access to a freezer (or a cold climate), the bugs will get killed after spending 48 - 72 hours in the freezer.&nbsp; I do this every time I buy grains that will be sitting around for a while (of course, I haven't moved into the van full time, so I still have easy access to a freezer)

 

[jeanontheroad]

Dumb question, but if you wanted to keep a couple year's worth of staples - rice, beans, flour, sugar- stashed away and were concerned about bug eggs, could you not pack them in airtight containers and use argon or helium? Bugs have to breathe.

 

[highdesertranger]

nitrogen is what you would want to use. cheaper than both argon or helium. it is what the bulk food storage people use. highdesertranger

 

[offroad]

You can get nitrogen gas cheap. Some put in in tires.