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britendarkk

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Hi everyone! My name is Lori and I'm a newbie. I am in the beginning stages of looking for a conversion van...to be a home away from home. I want to travel the Oregon Coast, Sedona, Canada, and anywhere else my heart desires. For those who are knowledgeable, what kind and type of engine should I be looking for? Strong, reliable, and cheap and easy to work on if it needs. I'm thinking a Ford or Chevy, at least a 5.8 liter, and a V8? Can anyone advise? Thank you!
Lori
 
I have a 6 cylinder Ford cargo van, the 4.2 liter. It has 206,000 miles on it and still running strong. I'm in Oregon most, but have been to the Midwest, Alaska, Canada, and the Southwest. It is a bit short on power when climbing mountains, but I just slow down some. With good maintenance, the engine might last me another 1-200,000 miles. I'm hoping! And I get 16 mpg around town, 18 on the highway.

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Converse to Iggy: I have a Dodge 5.9L at 114k, it's already blown up and been replaced, if it blows up again IDGAF I'll replace it again.

Oh, wait. You said knowledgeable. Please disqualify my post.
 
I prefer at least an 8 in a van.

I've had them with little 6s and the lack of power is a problem IMO particularly when one builds out the van and packs it with all our stuff.

it's not that I travel fast or that I overload the vehicle iit's just that at least a 3/4 ton van and an 8 cyl motor make more sense when one is wandering around the continent, at least to me.

I get about 16 mpg and don't have to worry if I'm carrying extra weight.
 
I have a 2000 f150 with 4.6 . I now have 305000 miles ant has puled a lot of trailers. I hope to be at the rtr puling a trailer. I did not do any thing other than regular mant for the first 250000 miles. then I changed some things not because I hade problems but just because I new it was coming and it is easer to change parts at home than beside the road.
 
If you look,  you may find a deal on a retired Ford Shuttle Van with a 7.3 Diesel V8 Diesel.  One of the best Ford engines.  Or possibly a 460 CI V8 Gasser.   (to avoid is the 6.0 Ford Diesel or the Triton series engines)   

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These tend to get better fuel mileage than the a regular Van.   They offer plenty of room to build comfortable living quarters in.

Here is what one owner has written about them.

You may want to look at this (if I replace my high top extended Ford Van in time, it will likely be with one of these)

http://www.fatherof11.com/shuttle_bus.html
 
I would go with the Chevy, Ford has had one engine issue after another. highdesertranger
 
Ditto on avoid Ford v8's from about 2005 on. Get a price on a 2005 Ford 5.4 engine used.
Because of the high demand for them, here they go for $1,800 with over 100,000 miles on them. And that is about when they seem to start failing.

Google Ford engine problems.
 
britendarkk said:
Hi everyone! My name is Lori and I'm a newbie. I am in the beginning stages of looking for a conversion van...to be a home away from home. I want to travel the Oregon Coast, Sedona, Canada, and anywhere else my heart desires. For those who are knowledgeable, what kind and type of engine should I be looking for? Strong, reliable, and cheap and easy to work on if it needs. I'm thinking a Ford or Chevy, at least a 5.8 liter, and a V8? Can anyone advise? Thank you!
Lori

If you have a range of years of vans that you are looking at it would allow us to give better, more specific input for you.
 
Iggy said:
I have a 6 cylinder Ford cargo van, the 4.2 liter. It has 206,000 miles on it and still running strong. I'm in Oregon most, but have been to the Midwest, Alaska, Canada, and the Southwest. It is a bit short on power when climbing mountains, but I just slow down some. With good maintenance, the engine might last me another 1-200,000 miles. I'm hoping! And I get 16 mpg around town, 18 on the highway.

Sent from my XT1528 using Tapatalk
That's great mileage. Yeah, I was thinking a higher liter for more power. The Ford engines seem to do really well. Thanks!
 
eDJ_ said:
If you look,  you may find a deal on a retired Ford Shuttle Van with a 7.3 Diesel V8 Diesel.  One of the best Ford engines.  Or possibly a 460 CI V8 Gasser.   (to avoid is the 6.0 Ford Diesel or the Triton series engines)   

192293-500x375.jpg


These tend to get better fuel mileage than the a regular Van.   They offer plenty of room to build comfortable living quarters in.

Here is what one owner has written about them.

You may want to look at this (if I replace my high top extended Ford Van in time, it will likely be with one of these)

http://www.fatherof11.com/shuttle_bus.html
Would you be able to take something like this into a campground? I'm hoping to find something that doesn't need much converting. I've also heard that while diesel gets better gas mileage, they are expnsive to fix...not everyone is qualified to fix diesals, so finding someone to fix it can be a challenge too.
 
highdesertranger said:
I would go with the Chevy,  Ford has had one engine issue after another.  highdesertranger

There seem to be a lot of Chevy Express vehicles for sale...are they good?
 
29chico said:
If you have a range of years of vans that you are looking at it would allow us to give better, more specific input for you.

I was told to stay away from those made in the 70's or 80's...so I guess I would look in the 90's years. My limit is about $6,000, so I probably couldn't afford anything in the 2000's. There a lot of 80's vans for sale I've noticed
 
Britendarkk wrote:


Would you be able to take something like this into a campground? I'm hoping to find something that doesn't need much converting. I've also heard that while diesel gets better gas mileage, they are expensive to fix...not everyone is qualified to fix diesels, so finding someone to fix it can be a challenge too.

I'd imagine any camp ground that would permit a Class C motor home (RV built on a Van chassis) to park there would allow one of these converted Shuttles to camp there.   The Shuttle is basically the same thing, only set up as a passenger vehicle.  What seems to make the Shuttle conversion to camper so intriguing for people is that there isn't a lot of demand for used shuttles except with Churches,  and small operations where they see marginal use. 

Conversion wise,  an empty Cargo Van only needs cleaned and built out.  The Shuttle will likely require the removal of the passenger seats which isn't that difficult.  (these can be sold and some money made on them)   If the Shuttle has a wheel chair lift it too can be removed and sold similarly.  Then you'll have money to build with.  What you'll have to determine is,  are you going to boondock and live in it, or travel. cook, and sleep in it. (spending time outside or away from it)

The Diesel engine's main difference is the fuel pump and fuel injectors.  Both expensive specialized parts.
Keeping the filters changed will extend the life expectancy of these. Shuttle Vans will have automatic transmissions which will make it easier to drive for a beginner as the shifting points are
already programmed.    

As for Diesel service,  there are probably more qualified mechanics than you realize.  Truck repair shops
would likely be your go to.   Find a moonlighting Diesel Mechanic where you live that you can have as you main service person.  On the road you can find them by talking to Truck Drivers.   A lot of service & repairs
to a Diesel Engine vehicle (other than the Diesel engine) can be done by every day mechanics.  Starters, alternators, brakes etc can be done by general mechanics.  

Others have mentioned Ford's engine problems and I have to agree that they have had their share.  So you could also look at Shuttles built by GM.    I've just seen too many Chrysler transmission problems in the past few years to want a Chrysler/Dodge vehicle. 

The 1996 and later vehicles have a plug under the dash by the driver where a hand held diagnostic computer can plug in and read the malfunction codes.  This is a quick diagnosis for the owner but the vehicle has to be a 96 or later to have this feature.   So bear this in mind when looking at older vehicles.

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This is a hand held diagnostic computer.  Auto parts stores generally have these and will read your codes for free to help you learn what the problem is.  With computers controlling engines and transmissions today
there are many "sensors" and control modules between them and the computer.  This
system of self diagnostics the vehicle has built into it can make service/repairs more accurate, quicker,
and less time consuming. (and possibly less expensive)

Again, a Diesel engine's main difference is the specialized fuel pump and fuel injectors,  but with an automatic transmission these vehicle's engines see easier service and have longer lives.
 
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