WARNING TO ALL

[DannyB1954]

About the only way to stop it is to make it cost them more than they receive, (as in lawsuits ).

 

[vagari]

If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you

This statement is very disturbing to me.

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

I read awhile back that the Feds were doing away with the incentive that let's the local police keep 80%  Found this article that relates to it.  Maybe why Oklahoma Police decided to cut out the middle man?  The middle man being the fed's

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m-that-lets-cops-take-your-stuff-and-keep-it/

Actually, they only suspended it temporarily.  They restarted it a few months later.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/...haring-program-months-after-shutting-it-down/

 

[shadow]

We all know this is BS and the cops are stealing money from people good or bad because they think they can, and most people don`t have the means to fight it in court.

If you want to protect your credit cards, make a foil sleeve and put your credit cards in it, the cards will be unreadable by anyone using a scanner or what ever is used to steal your credit card information.

 

[Cheli]

I feel the same way vagari.  Why should anyone have to prove why they have cash on them?  This makes me insanely mad!

My legitimate reason is I worked, got paid, cashed my check and din't deposit it into blood sucking banks.  
My legitimate reason is I'm traveling across the country and want a good amount of cash set aside in case of emergency and can't get access to my money electronically.
My legitimate reason is that it's my money and I can carry it however I want to.

Seriously.....so now we have to worry about the law stealing from us?

 

[IanC]

My legitimate reason is that it's my money and I can carry it however I want to.


 

LOL. It's not your money - it's money you might have earned but it goes into a pile and insurance companies and government takes what they think is theirs and if there's anything left you can take that , but of course anything you do with it will be taxed some more and whatever is left after THAT, you better be able to justify why you have it.

 

[Gunny]

Pretty clean cut guy here, Only took two lawyers and a year or so to get his money back.

 

[Cheli]

LOL. It's not your money - it's money you might have earned but it goes into a pile and insurance companies and government takes what they think is theirs and if there's anything left you can take that , but of course anything you do with it will be taxed some more and whatever is left after THAT, you better be able to justify why you have it.

Yes, you are correct.  Me and my silly delusions.  lol

 

[Richard]

Why should anyone have to prove why they have cash on them?  This makes me insanely mad! ... My legitimate reason is that it's my money and I can carry it however I want

Exactly right. In principle. In practice, though, the slow and steady encroachments upon our presumed innocence march on.

How have things gotten to this point? To me, it seems that too few seem aware. Of those, even fewer seem to care. And of those who care, fewer still appear willing to do anything about systemic injustice.

Individual injustices can be dealt with individually but systemic injustice requires consensus and solidarity--pretty unlikely of this current dominant culture. I can't help wondering whether the window of opportunity to right the systemic wrongs has closed. And, if it has, then the future feels pretty bleak to me.

 

[Cheli]

Individual injustices can be dealt with individually but systemic injustice requires consensus and solidarity--pretty unlikely of this current dominant culture. I can't help wondering whether the window of opportunity to right the systemic wrongs has closed. And, if it has, then the future feels pretty bleak to me.

Sadly, I think you're spot on here.

 

[Ella1]

I just looked up an Arizona's forfeiture link
https://fee.org/articles/arizona-takes-asset-forfeiture-to-a-despicable-new-low/

 

[DannyB1954]

You probably really don't want to know what the patriot act can do to you.
Hitler got his power from removing civil rights under the guise of stopping Communism.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005204

 

[TrainChaser]

I don't know how this isn't a violation of the 4th amendment. Why are the Feds not stepping in?

It was the Feds who started it. 

It started under the Clinton administration in 1994 to search the home of CIA spy Aldrich Ames without a warrant, backed by the Dept. of Justice (Just-Us).

In 2002, President G.W. Bush signed a presidential order allowing the monitoring of international phone calls and e-mails, ostensibly to search for terrorist activity.

In 2005, President G.W. Bush authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on domestic calls to/from Americans to search for terrorist activity as part of the 'War on Terrorism'.

In 2006, the Bush administration gave permission to pay AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth to collect call data on Americans, and it was authorized by the US Patriot Act.

For years, local authorities have raided innocent people's home and confiscated their homes, bank accounts, vehicles, boats and aircraft based solely on anonymous tips.  There was never a warrent, the victims were never charged, and their belongings were never returned.

Most people don't worry about it until it happens to them.  And then they get all upset for some reason.