Tips on training a dog to be around other dogs?

[Yogidog]

Her history is, I got her from the shelter at two months, she ran wild with a Labrador for three years in new Mexico, she and I traveled for two and a half years and no socialization. She did fine with my dad's dog.  I am talking nice to her when she starts barking at other dogs petting her both relaxing telling us they are good dogs. Works sometimes if not I say down and make her lay down til they pass.

She is doing great with going in places, people hardly know she is there. Couldn't do this a couple of weeks ago.

In past she has been nice till dog gets close then lunges and scares the other dog and us!
Thanks so much
Wishing alla good day

 

[steamjam1]

My dog Zia was also not too keen on ANYTHING getting within 30 feet of her or me for a long time. Its been alot of work, and going out of my way to socialize her with other dogs and more importantly other people. She still has her moments, but they are becoming few and far between. I've learnt that for Zia all I had to do was play with her along with other dogs at the same time. At first it was touch and go, then I let my coworkers play with Zia (playing fetch, tug o war etc) and nowadays its rare that she barks at anyone.

Cept for squirrels. Zia is a jerk to squirrels. I don't know why. My last border collie didn't care about them.

 

[Txjaybird]

HEY YOU,  Glad to hear Dog is getting to accept others sometimes.

Queenie is 6ys old now.  I got her when she was 5wks old, her brother came with.  The friend I was staying with had picked him out.  They came from his niece who raised Chihuahuas.  They had 2 big yards to run and play in and one was fenced.  Then Queenie and I moved to an apt. and it was leash city.  ..sometimes I feel like I'm leashed right along with her!
 
Queenie was great until the same dog did a quiet sneak attack 3 times.  Always going for her throat.  The last time I still had a foot in my doorway!  Her vet sez she growls and barks to both dogs and people to let them know she does't want to be messed with.

One of her alias is "Killer" given to her by one of the guys that works for my apt. complex.  I've worked hard,  keeping always on the alert for anyone or thing that may approach us.  For our safety and theirs too.

We had a break thru about 3wks ago.  Here the heat index was a little over 100.  No air in the Ranger.  A long wait at the vets.   It's a 40 mile round trip and I needed to go into a thrift store and a big hardware store and couldn't leave her outside.   I put down a shirt in a cart, sat her on it and away we went!  She never barked or growled once.  At both places I just said it was too hot to leave her outside and there wasn't a problem.  One lady gave me treats for her.  Late last night in was cool enough for her to sit in the truck.  At Dollar Tree and Wal-Mart she helped me return the baskets to the inside of the stores.  She was short leashed and never fussed at anyone!   YAY  

Have you ever seen those pics where married people look like each other?  Or where animals look like their Humans?  Maybe I've been wrong about some of her aggressive behaviors...I have been known to growl and snap at others my own self    

Stay safe ...........I enjoy hearing about your travels.............Jewellann

 

[Odyssey]

Have you tried dog parks? What do you think of them?

We sometimes go after a vigorous walk, before her nap time when she is less likely to fail. At the DP I show up with my giant dog and before we get out of the van, I ask if owners or their dogs can handle a huge dog. Sometimes they say sure, and sometimes the other dog people say no and leave. Or we don't stay if it doesn't feel right. It's always different. 

The ones that do stay get a laugh out of the comedy of size difference and that's all cute fun until mine decides to stand on their dog or they develop a toy ownership issue. I carry a small pocket water gun, spray my dog, corral her and we pack up to go home. Not every time, sometimes no negative issue at all. 

I'm watching these types of threads to get all the help there is. I can't keep paying dog trainers to tell me how lousy I am to have so little control over my animal. I don't respond well to belittling criticism nor will I pay for it. At home we do just fine. Commands are followed, we train in tiny time increments, lots of praise for obeying me and we quit when she doesn't. Or the squirrels and rabbits arrive. 

It's when we put the training to the test in the real world and suddenly she's dumber than a sack of rocks. I get embarrassed and frustrated.

We spend a lot of time with her just sniffing the DP while I seem to use up a large supply of doodoo bags picking up after the previous visitors. Yuckamadoo and we don't go very often.

 

[DannyB1954]

I am talking nice to her when she starts barking at other dogs petting her both relaxing telling us they are good dogs. 

Sorry but your dog didn't major in english. They learn key words like eat, walk sit stay. Petting them talking nice really tells them to keep doing what they are doing. Try saying NO or leave it in a stern voice. 
Many places have dog parks where dogs can run loose and play with each other. Try to find one and take them there.

 

[Yogidog]

My dog Zia was also not too keen on ANYTHING getting within 30 feet of her or me for a long time. Its been alot of work, and going out of my way to socialize her with other dogs and more importantly other people. She still has her moments, but they are becoming few and far between. I've learnt that for Zia all I had to do was play with her along with other dogs at the same time. At first it was touch and go, then I let my coworkers play with Zia (playing fetch, tug o war etc) and nowadays its rare that she barks at anyone.

Cept for squirrels. Zia is a jerk to squirrels. I don't know why. My last border collie didn't care about them.

I think you are right on the playing with both dogs, I know she is taking her cues from me, yeah squirrels are advanced practice for sure!


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[DannyB1954]

Cept for squirrels. Zia is a jerk to squirrels. I don't know why. My last border collie didn't care about them.

May be instinct. For many years dogs were bred to hunt rodents, ( a squirrel is a fuzzy tailed rat). Border Collies were raised to herd sheep. 

So a border Collie isn't interested in rodents, and Zia probably wouldn't be interested in sheep.

 

[Yogidog]

Absolutely on the leashed right along with her!
Great feeling of competence to be able to bring them and both of us behave congratulations! I never used the option of bringing her in until this heat, like u there is sometimes when there is little choice. And there has been a rash of dog thefts around Reno, that is the main reason, other wise I would park in the shade and leave windows down. People ruin everything!

Yes the owners and dogs simulating each other, anyone who saw us traveling the first time, kept their distance, nervous nellies doesn't begin to describe it. We scared gangsters and that was how we wanted it. Now trying to undo that, neither of us have to live in fear anymore.


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[Yogidog]

That is really nice u ask about the big dog. I took her when she was little and she was fine but then we travelled and I am sure she followed my fear and now I have been afraid to try.

I am getting a water gun tonight, that would work to like you said corral her and get moving.

I hear u on the belittling critism, gets no where with me, I leave do the time increments also in morning when rested. Hehe on the squirrels and rabbits arriving.

Thanks for picking up everyone's poop! Your a better woman than I!

Wishing us all and our doggies well!


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[Yogidog]

Sorry but your dog didn't major in english. They learn key words like eat, walk sit stay. Petting them talking nice really tells them to keep doing what they are doing. Try saying NO or leave it in a stern voice. 
Many places have dog parks where dogs can run loose and play with each other. Try to find one and take them there.

Probably the biggest part of this issue is my fear fueling her so if I stay relaxed and really feel the other dog is a good, sweet dog she relaxes, so it is not the words themselves, of course, but my tone and demeanor, I am surprised it is working about 75 percent of the time. The other 25 I am saying no and down and she is reluctantly doing it. Progress not perfection!


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[Yogidog]

Sorry Tjaybird and Odyssey learning tapatalk thought I hit the reply to you bottom.


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[rvpopeye]

Stick with the program , it won't happen overnight but it will happen..........

 

[dragonflyinthesky]

I have to agree with dannyB. If all else fails, ignore the behavior. A few things can happen. If you are stern when she is aggressive, she may associate the punishment with the approach of the other dog. I would try the stern approach first though as danny b suggested. As soon as she quiets, praise is given. If that doesn't work then ignore the behavior and lead her away. Do not pet the other dog until she from guess out not to be aggressive.

You know she may lunge. Be ready, yanking her isn't good. Turn and walk the other way, she gets praised when she looks up at you. You talk to her to get her attention on you and use a high value treat.

I have a potentially aggressive dog. It takes a lot of cunning with some of them.

Diane and Ivy and Cricket

 

[dragonflyinthesky]

This is my Ivy. She's a handful.

 

[Txjaybird]

Have you tried dog parks? What do you think of them?

We sometimes go after a vigorous walk, before her nap time when she is less likely to fail. At the DP I show up with my giant dog and before we get out of the van, I ask if owners or their dogs can handle a huge dog. Sometimes they say sure, and sometimes the other dog people say no and leave. Or we don't stay if it doesn't feel right. It's always different. 

The ones that do stay get a laugh out of the comedy of size difference and that's all cute fun until mine decides to stand on their dog or they develop a toy ownership issue. I carry a small pocket water gun, spray my dog, corral her and we pack up to go home. Not every time, sometimes no negative issue at all. 

What kind of dog do you have?  My very petite sister's harlequin 14yr old great dane died this year.  It was a real treat to watch Hooch walk Suzy.  My brother has for years worked at the only boarding kennel in town.  He handles a lot of aggressive dogs.  Due to new ownership some of the dogs will no longer be allowed there.  I've never had to kennel Queenie however I don't want her attitude to be an issue in case of an emergency.

I do wish I had taught her sit and stay.  She has mainly been spoken to like a child and it's surprising how much she does understand. 

 She has also learned to alert to my very high blood sugar levels and extreme mood swings.  She also knows when she is going into a seizure and comes to me.....she has taught me to alert to her pre-seizure actions. 

 At the DR.s yesterday I asked about the high blood sugar and was told that some dogs naturally sense it and that our skin will taste sweet and that's why she will suddenly come after me and insist on licking my legs if I'm standing up or arms if we're on the bed or sitting in a chair or couch. 

 I sometimes think dogs are smarter than us in some situations.   OH YEAH....... IMO

Jewellann

 

[Yogidog]

This is my Ivy. She's a handful.

Hi diane, when I tried the first link on my phone, it said webpage not available my be my phone though. I was prompted to ask this question today after reading yesterday that your all's camp was dog friendly and I know bob has said many dogs are off leash at rtr, I thought I better pick up the pace in us learning! But if all else fails I will just avoid, I won't risk mine or another's getting hurt.  No one needs that!

 

[dragonflyinthesky]

Hi diane, when I tried the first link on my phone, it said webpage not available my be my phone though. I was prompted to ask this question today after reading yesterday that your all's camp was dog friendly and I know bob has said many dogs are off leash at rtr, I thought I better pick up the pace in us learning! But if all else fails I will just avoid, I won't risk mine or another's getting hurt.  No one needs that!

 

[Yogidog]

Beautiful dog and beautiful cards!

 

[Gunny]

If I may interject one (to me) very important command to teach your dog is STOP or STAY. I let my cat out on a short leash, always with me present, and enjoy the fresh air and occasional visit.

 

[steamjam1]

May be instinct. For many years dogs were bred to hunt rodents, ( a squirrel is a fuzzy tailed rat). Border Collies were raised to herd sheep. 

So a border Collie isn't interested in rodents, and Zia probably wouldn't be interested in sheep.

I really don't know what it is with Zia and squirrels. When I first got her I couldn't let her off lead because she would try and take off in pursuit of ANYTHING that could run/fly or otherwise scurry away. I eventually got her to obey commands like FORGET IT, and she won't run off anymore in pursuit of >insert animal here<.. I can walk her off leash in 90% of places now without a single problem... UNLESS she sees a squirrel.

Anyways what helped me some was Youtube. I watched alot of Zak Georges dog training videos over the last year and something and got some good ideas and methods for getting Zia to mellow out some. Its worked out well. Doesn't help with the squirrels, but I figure its just a weird quirk of Zia.. Just like my previous border, Abbey would be ok with all peoples UNLESS he/she was wearing a hoodie. She would growl and bark until they took the hoodie off, and then suddenly Abbey loved them...