The most annoying thing about vandwelling

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I think I finally found the most annoying thing about vandwelling...critters...on my roof!  I usually try to park under trees for shade, but I feel like that invites whatever squirrels or birds are living in said tree to decide to explore my roof...very noisily.   Has anyone else had this problem, or is it just me?  It definitely annoys me...
 
Of course! It's not a one-way street, you must know. We get to play in their forest, and they get a temporary new playground! What's unfair about that? Well maybe nothing, but it does get loud and annoying, especially when the dogs join in barking their heads off because, "Hey, hey, hey, haven't you people noticed, there are squirrels right smack on our roof! Lemme, lemme, I'll take care of it, yah sure just let me out!" Et cetera.

I mind the wildlife a lot less than I mind the sap from trees like cottonwoods. I had to park under cottonwoods while they were dropping their horrid sticky seed pods and dripping corrosive sap all over my new to me Chevy truck. Might have eaten through the clear coat, dang it.

The Dire Wolfess
 
Birds on the roof are the least of your worries. It's the other 2-legged kind that are the real PITA. Wait till you're boondocking and some locals come with their semiautomatic weapons and proceed to blow beer bottles to smithereens 150' away. Wait till you're trying to negotiate your RV on the freeways in California, where the drivers are totally nuts.
 
Ye Gods! the horrifying sap here and elsehwere I've lived and worked is astonishing!  Sometimes all it takes is an hour or two to do permanent damage. It is a pretty discouraging thing, if you let it be.  A potentially pricey thing, either way.
 
I sometimes get woken up in the morning by birdies--they apparently see the reflections from my solar panel, think it is water, and come down to try to get a drink. Then I get to hear them clacking all over my roof.
 
Dingfelder said:
Ye Gods! the horrifying sap here and elsehwere I've lived and worked is astonishing!  Sometimes all it takes is an hour or two to do permanent damage. It is a pretty discouraging thing, if you let it be.  A potentially pricey thing, either way.
Yep yep yep, all of the above. This was in Kalispell, MT, at a $50/nt RV park. On my maiden voyage, having traded my van for truck/5er, trying to figure out how everything worked....that'll larn me, trying to slip in with the rich kids unnoticed!

The Dire Wolfess
 
lenny flank said:
I sometimes get woken up in the morning by birdies--they apparently see the reflections from my solar panel, think it is water, and come down to try to get a drink. Then I get to hear them clacking all over my roof.
Sometimes the hummies get attracted to the Reflectix in my windows....I can hear them out there and peek. They're so sweet!

The Dire Wolfess
 
QinReno said:
Birds on the roof are the least of your worries. It's the other 2-legged kind that are the real PITA.


Yeah, I can't criticize the wildlife. They're just doing what they do. We're sort of the intruders into their world. But other humans? They leave trash, garbage and appliances, hack on trees, shoot thing up, play loud music at all hours, run generators all night, argue, fight...
 
good thing it is a lowly critter and not a bear or mountain lion deciding to use your roof as a lookout tower :)
 
The bears don't climb on the roof, they simply roll the van over or tear the doors off, depending on whether or not you're cooking bacon inside. Bacon is dope for a bear. 

Mountain lions, however, are another thing. Their preferred mode of attack is to jump on prey from behind and sink their fangs into its neck and sever the spinal cord. So, when getting out of the van, always first "face" the roof and see if a cat is up there. They say that in places like India, people will wear a hat with a painted face pointed to the "back", which will tend to dissuade Tigers from sneaking up behind. Then, the 2nd thing to do on exiting the van is look underneath to see if any rattlesnakes have roosted overnight. I have a morning checklist, myself.

It also occurred to me that the birds and squirrels on your roof can be dealt with by throwing some food onto the ground away from the van. Then they will come down and eat it.

NOTE: of course, this is opposite to what the rangers all say about feeding wildlife, but might save your solar panels.
 
MrNoodly said:
Yeah, I can't criticize the wildlife. They're just doing what they do. We're sort of the intruders into their world. But other humans? They leave trash, garbage and appliances, hack on trees, shoot thing up, play loud music at all hours, run generators all night, argue, fight...
I scan over CaravanCarolyn's youtubes. A bit dramatic, but she travels to interesting places too. She is kind of the Queen of Ehrenberg in the winter. They were camping near Pike's Peak recently and happened to camp in a CG where local homeless tend to camp out. The guys there got high on booze and drugs, and came over 100-yards in the middle of the night to scream and make trouble around their camp. Better to stay further out from the places too near towns.
 
Sounds like Chisos Basin, Q. Loud but definitely interesting. ;)

Although no sign of those 20 buzzards you told me about!
 
You might watch the videos and see if you think "interesting" is the appropriate word, Liv.
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With a bit of due diligence, one might be able to determine whether the campsite is a good place to overnight. Too close to town. Lots of junk scattered around. Sizing up the current campers. Eg, if I see three 20-something dudes just hanging around doing nothing or drinking or carrying guns, I figure not a good place. Group behaviors tend to positive-feedback reinforcing.
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Too bad about the buzzards. It was really cool seeing them sitting on the outhouse in the evening, watching them flying through the CG at low level, and having a couple circling my picnic table 6-feet away.
 
I'm going to treat myself to a room, tonight.
I haven't owned a television in so long I never know what to watch so I'll watch these videos to pass the time.

Headed North, then East.
 
The only thing I've found worth watching on 500-channels of cable are movies.
 
Moxadox said:
Sometimes the hummies get attracted to the Reflectix in my windows....I can hear them out there and peek.  They're so sweet!

The Dire Wolfess


I once had a male Cardinal get into a fight with his own reflection in my side mirror.  :)
 
QinReno said:
The bears don't climb on the roof, they simply roll the van over or tear the doors off, depending on whether or not you're cooking bacon inside. Bacon is dope for a bear. 

Mountain lions, however, are another thing. Their preferred mode of attack is to jump on prey from behind and sink their fangs into its neck and sever the spinal cord. So, when getting out of the van, always first "face" the roof and see if a cat is up there. They say that in places like India, people will wear a hat with a painted face pointed to the "back", which will tend to dissuade Tigers from sneaking up behind. Then, the 2nd thing to do on exiting the van is look underneath to see if any rattlesnakes have roosted overnight. I have a morning checklist, myself.

It also occurred to me that the birds and squirrels on your roof can be dealt with by throwing some food onto the ground away from the van. Then they will come down and eat it.

NOTE: of course, this is opposite to what the rangers all say about feeding wildlife, but might save your solar panels.
Good heavens, my brain is making a very busy picture here....bears, lions, tigers, raccoons, squirrels....skunks.....Fantasia!

Seriously, if you want rattlesnakes in your camp, then definitely throw out food for the squirrels. And bunnies, and rats. Do rattlesnakes eat skunks?

I did have a bear outside my van one night, near Pagosa Springs. It bumped around out there for quite a while but thankfully did not tear the doors off.

The Dire Wolfess
 
lenny flank said:
I once had a male Cardinal get into a fight with his own reflection in my side mirror.  :)
They are such little Napoleons :-D

The Dire Wolfess
 
Moxadox said:
Good heavens, my brain is making a very busy picture here....bears, lions, tigers, raccoons, squirrels....skunks.....Fantasia!  

Seriously, if you want rattlesnakes in your camp, then definitely throw out food for the squirrels.  And bunnies, and rats.  Do rattlesnakes eat skunks?

I did have a bear outside my van one night, near Pagosa Springs.  It bumped around out there for quite a while but thankfully did not tear the doors off.

The Dire Wolfess
Of course, I "slightly" embellished things, but Edward Abbey did have rattlesnakes living under his trailer when he was living in Moab, mountain lions (and tigers) do prefer to jump on their prey from behind, and there was a guy on this forum a couple of months ago who mentioned that a bear broke the door of his car when he had bacon inside.

And the first thing I *always* do do every morning when camping is to shake out my shoes in case a Wolf Spider got in there in the night.
 
Awww, that spider is the most adorable little face ever. ;)

(FYI, I used to keep Black Widows, Wolf Spiders, Tarantulas, and Scorpions as pets.)
 
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