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 I'm interested in having a tiny sink in our van with just a few gallons of fresh water and then a small hodling tank for dirty water.  I'm not exactly sure how this works though, is there some sort of pump system for the fresh water to come out the faucet?  Explain? And any links to things I would need to buy? 
 
There are several ways to do it, but I think the best is a small, battery powered shower pump. It does two jobs, washes your dishes and then use it to shower. Here is a good one on Amazon that costs $27:<br>http://www.amazon.com/ZODI-Outback-...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1321828754&amp;sr=8-1<br><br>Just get two 5-gallon jugs for water, one fresh water and the other gray water. Put the pump into the fresh water jug, use the sprayer to wash, and have a hose go from the sink to the gray water jug. It really is that simple. You will have to build a cabinet to hold the sink and have the water jugs underneath it. If it is true gray water, it can be dumped anywhere, even out on the ground. Bob <br><br>
 
<P>That's an interesting idea.&nbsp; I originally had thought I would get a 5 gallon watter jug with a spout, then get a huge bowl and cut a hole in my desk for the bowl to sit in.&nbsp; Then I could just turn on the spout to wash my hands and dump the water in a bucket for grey water or dump it&nbsp;outside.&nbsp; Now I'm trying to decide what would be better.&nbsp; </P>
 
A bar sized sink works well, and it uses conventional hardware and supplies available at any home depot or lowe's or hardware store. Walmart sells a 12v bilge pump in the boating area, about $ 20-$25. You can cut a small hole in the lid of a 5 gal pail for the hose so it can pump fresh water out , through the sink drain, back into a grey tank. Hint- 1 1-2" slip joint plumbing pipe and fittings fit right in and on a 5 gal blue walmart water jug. Many Rv places also sell replacement hand pump fixtures
Les
 
I think this is the route I am going to go.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>I envision the 5 gallon jug under the sink, the jugs are easily filled and can also be swapped at any home depot and most wallmarts.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Of course the spigot will be over the sink bowl.</div><div>Has anyone designed a sink with this??</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...g&amp;field-keywords=TRPMW300&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...g&amp;field-keywords=TRPMW300&amp;x=0&amp;y=0</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
 
Two 5.5 gallon Reliance Rhino Paks, 5 ft of 3/8" vinyl tubing, a Valterra Rocket hand pump and a Rubbermaid container.<br>I run the hose into the SPOUT of the Rhino Pak container.<br>Moving, sliding, securing and adjusting 41 lbs of sloshing water creates splashes with un-covered containers &lt;---something to think about.<br><br>
 
Any thoughts on this?<div><br></div><div>It has built in battery for pump and instant hot water?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><a href="http://www.coleman.com/coleman/cole...&amp;categoryid=24015&amp;brand=#.Tsr0ULKBqU8" target="_blank">http://www.coleman.com/coleman/cole...&amp;categoryid=24015&amp;brand=#.Tsr0ULKBqU8</a></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="http://www.coleman.com/coleman/images/products/2300-700_500.jpg"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><h1 id="watch-headline-title" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 1.1363em; max-height: 1.1363em; line-height: 1.1363em; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: left; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 27px; "><br></span></h1></div><div><br></div>
 
I'm kinda low tech- 12x15 plastic dish pan (WM- $1.69) 2 gallon refrigerator dispenser jug with spout (WM- $2.50 or less including water)&nbsp; box or crate/tote to set jug on to pour ,&nbsp; discretely dump water and biodegradable detergent from dish pan back on Mother Earth. Re fill dispenser jug at favorite location.<br>
 
karl said:
I'm kinda low tech- 12x15 plastic dish pan (WM- $1.69) 2 gallon refrigerator dispenser jug with spout (WM- $2.50 or less including water)&nbsp; box or crate/tote to set jug on to pour ,&nbsp; discretely dump water and biodegradable detergent from dish pan back on Mother Earth. Re fill dispenser jug at favorite location.<br>
<br>What?&nbsp; No gray water containment "system" (LOL)?&nbsp; Even Moby has one:&nbsp; an empty cat litter jug with a canning funnel for easy pour off from the dish pan or other plastic tub.<br><br>I used to have a narrow plastic three-drawer cart.&nbsp; With the bottom drawer properly weighted for stability, the top drawer made a great sink!&nbsp; It was just the right height for sit down use, and the top of the unit made a good surface for a jug or spray bottle, grooming or even a little dish drainer.&nbsp; The drawer doubled as storage, of course, and could be removed from the frame for draining into the collection "system."&nbsp; I might reinstate that set-up, come to think of it.<br><br>Another thought is collapsible camping sinks...<br><br>Vickie<br><br>
 
Collapsible camping sinks work great, and take up very little room. You can also place a cutting board on top for prep work.<div><br></div>
 
Journeyman said:
Collapsible camping sinks work great, and take up very little room. You can also place a cutting board on top for prep work.<div><br></div>
<br>Is there a particular style/make that you've had good experience with?&nbsp; Thanks.<br>Vickie<br><br>
 
<p>Hello. Great sight great info. Great People. I have that Coleman hot water on demand unit. It works GREAT. Has built in electric pump that is easily charged w. solar panel. You can adjust the temp. from warm to Holy Crap hot. Fuel is the small propane cans that hooks up right in the unit. OR you can hook it up to your larger propane tank. Has an attachment hose w. shower head. Go to sights and check out their info. An excellent compact workhorse unit.</p>
 
Ress said:
<p>&nbsp;Has built in electric pump that is easily charged w. solar panel. <br></p>
<br><br>Just a quick note: Your thinking that a sink pump will work if "hooked" directly to a solar panel could and probably will kill the pump... Remember that solar panels only charge/recharge 12V deep cell batteries... You would then run from the battery (12VDC) or through an inverter (110VAC) to get the power... Never hook a solar panel directly to anything unless like those small laptop/cell phone solar units used to recharge the small units...<br><br><br><br><br>
 
<div><br></div><div><font face="Arial"><b>This is how I did it in my tiny little 5x8 cargo conversion where space is definitely at a premium! Thanx to Curtis Carper for this&nbsp;</b><b>great, simple solution, ideal for really small quarters like mine!</b></font></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">This is the stainless mixing bowl after cutting the drain hole &amp; mounting the drain hardware:</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">
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</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">Actually almost looks like a sink!</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">
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</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><font face="Arial"><b>After cutting hole in counter top, a bit of silicone glue under the lip of the bowl (after countertop was painted), &amp; PVC&nbsp;</b><b>drain pipe running through floor:</b></font></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">
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</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">A 2 or 3 gallon jug (I forget) with spigot, &amp; a cutaway which matches curvature of "sink", and the end result:</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">
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</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><font face="Arial"><b>Nice &amp; simple, no moving parts, no power required! One slight downside, however. Since the bowl doesn't have the little recess in the bottom like a real sink, there's always a small amount of water in the bowl which won't drain. Easily sopped up with a rag if it's a bother though.&nbsp;</b> </font></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><font face="Arial"><b>If I'm in a location where draining grey water on the ground is inapropriate, a 6-gallon gas&nbsp;</b><b>tank placed under the trailer, makes the perfect grey-water holding tank. Even has a built-in handle:</b></font></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">
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</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">And a gauge to show when it's full:</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">
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</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><font face="Arial"><b>I can replace the cap &amp; it won't leak, enabling me to haul it off to a suitable dump&nbsp;</b><b>location!&nbsp;</b></font></div><div><b><font face="Arial">Incidentally, I've had this tank for years, &amp; it's always been a grey-water tank, never a gas tank!</font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="Arial">Food for thought. Hope this helps!&nbsp;<img border="0" align="absmiddle" src="https://vanlivingforum.com/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif"></font></b></div><div><b><br></b></div>
 
I like the gas can idea. I wonder if anyone who saw you dumping it thought you were pouring out gas? IV given half a thought to getting one of the wheeled blue portable storage tanks I've seen.
 
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