North Dakota

[WriterMs]

Proud to "know" you Gunny... and your fellow vets who are still taking a stand for what is right. Just read the NY Times article. Be safe.

 

[jimindenver]

I justread up on it too. My hats off to ya Gunny. Be safe

 

[Every Road Leads Home]

Thanks for the updates, safe travels and stay warm.

 

[Gunny]

Beautiful, Bismarck. 28 and light snow. Motel cancelled our reservation but had empty rooms. The Casino in Cannon Ball is empty and not renting rooms. Cops are not all friendly. Big surprise. One of the tribe is going to arrange spaces for us. Tonight is my trusty sleeping bag.

If anyone is interested the unlicensed security firm using the attack dogs is Frost Kennels out of Ohio.

I don't have facebook but I am told they have the names and history of the handlers.

Might be a day or two before I get back on, be safe, Rob


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[VanGrrl57]

Will be arriving tomorrow, Gunny. I should be in Bismarck around 4 or 5 pm. I am working tonight but plan on leaving out after getting off work in the morning. Be safe.

VanGrrl57

 

[Txjaybird]

:s  It's times like this I miss the TV nightly news.  I think something is not right in ND?????  I have zero idea what and it's too late? early? to phone my SD friends.

Gunny whatever you guys are doing I wish you well.

Jewellann

 

[rvpopeye]

Pipeline protests.

 

[Wanderer]

Well, I'm only going to say Stay safe and that means to stay inside where it's warm.

 

[AngryVanMan]

To many, the "#vanlife" seems to be in part a homage to Henry David Thoreau's Walden, even to the extent that another (quite good) modern book on the matter and practice of living in a van was titled Walden on Wheels by direct reference.  Many forget that some of the most piercing and profound ideas from Thoreau did not spring from its pages, but rather the pages of Civil Disobedience and other Essays.  As Walden leads the reader to abandon the social accoutrements of wage servitude and the pursuit of wealth and riches, Civil Disobedience is a treatise, in some sense, on how to apply that newly recaptured resource of time for good effect to questions of moral reckoning.

“If the injustice is part of the necessary friction of the machine of government, let it go, let it go: perchance it will wear smooth--certainly the machine will wear out… but if it is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then I say, break the law. Let your life be a counter-friction to stop the machine. What I have to do is to see, at any rate, that I do not lend myself to the wrong which I condemn.”

"The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constables, posse comitatus, etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgment or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well."

“Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resigns his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward.”

“A very few, as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men, serve the State with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated by it as enemies.”

“I wish my countrymen to consider, that whatever the human law may be, neither an individual nor a nation can ever commit the least act of injustice against the obscurest individual, without having to pay the penalty for it. A government which deliberately enacts injustice, and persists in it, will at length ever become the laughing-stock of the world.”

― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays

It was by no great accident that these same words influenced people from Gandhi to Martin Luther King Jr., Tolstoy, John F. Kennedy, Hemingway and Yeats.

While we cannot readily discuss or debate any topics of substantive nature amongst ourselves here, I would offer only this: no matter what your predilections or judgements on the matters in North Dakota, let it inspire you to read or re-read Thoreau's work, being one of the most popular works of non-fiction and one that broaches a great many important topics - a great deal near and dear to the nature of  modern mobile living.

Good luck and Godspeed - and to quote one more author - once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more.

 

[ArtW]

I will only say that if your only source of information is the mainstream media, please take the time to do some fact checking and critical thinking before deciding your stance, there seems to be some discrepancy between reports coming from the area and the actual facts

 

[ArtW]

Aaaand it's political

 

[GotSmart]

Nobody is telling anyone what side to take.  

IMO that report just has the facts.  Sometimes OD has the unslanted facts, sometimes Fox.  You read and make up your own mind.

This thread is about the travel of one member and his adventures.  It does not matter what side he is taking, just the story. :shy:

 

[Gunny]

The mods can close this thread if they want, I am not "political " nor am I trying to influence anyone's opinion. It's just something I felt like needed doing, but what do I know?

Going to sleep in a yurt tonight, a first.

Stay safe, Rob


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[Gary68]

naw,keep the thread and delete the posts

keep those fingers and toes a moving and stay hydrated, take care of yourself rob

 

[GotSmart]

Dress warm, and do what you think is right.  That is what you fought for.  

Let us know you are safe.

 

[jimindenver]

I have some heavy winter gear I'd like to send up that a way instead of cramming it in the Goodwill box. Should someone know where to send it, PM me please.

 

[ArtW]

Hmmm, interesting
I guess I got fooled by the 'snopes highlights' part
Looks like I need to check my facts better

 

[GotSmart]

No I did not.  

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[ArtW]

I gotta look into this more

 

[GotSmart]

Not going there.  This should be kept non political.