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<div>salami, gouda cheese, and a baguette.&nbsp;</div><div>vichyssoise</div><div>bag salads w/nuts and craisins</div><div>green apples and peanut butter</div><div>wraps</div>
 
<FONT size=3>I'm almost ashamed to admit this because I generally abhor canned foods.&nbsp; However, living so far from a store I keep plenty on hand for when I run out of fresh produce.&nbsp; Like now, my trucks in the shop, I have no way to get anywhere. Guess what's for dinner?</FONT><BR><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT size=3>Canned green beans and salmon or&nbsp;tuna fish (Dollar Tree sells the 1 serving/foil pack) with Italian salad dressing (always ask for extra salad dressing at McD's, Taco sauce at Taco Bell, Parmesan at Pizza Hut,&nbsp;etc.) You get your veggies, omega-3, and protein in one cheap, fairly tasty&nbsp;meal ($2.25ish, less if you buy cheap green beans, also at dollar tree).&nbsp;If you buy Italian dressing,&nbsp;some don't have to be refrigerated; check the label.&nbsp; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT size=3>Also, Family Dollar sells single servings&nbsp;of chicken and tuna fish with crackers for $1.00. Add a vegetable and you've got a meal.</FONT><BR><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT size=3>Pasta, ramen noodles, cous cous, quinoa&nbsp;and rice can be soaked instead of boiled. It does change the texture, but it's still edible. Be aware that hi carb foods are subject to salmonella without refridgeration!</FONT><BR><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT size=3>Uncooked ramen noodles are tasty in a salad for extra crunch and filler.&nbsp;&nbsp; This stuff , however, is horribly unhealthy (fried, high sodium content!)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><BR>
 
Cyndi ... Not sure where you're at right now (not asking that either) but I've always been curious if you or any other boondockers ever plant veggies. I mean if you stay there long enough to harvest them.<div><br></div><div>Oh and the ramen is really only bad for you if you use the flavor packet. Without it, it's as healthy as any other store bought noodles.</div>
 
twokniveskatie said:
can you boil water?
<br><br>Nope<img src="/images/boards/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"><br>
 
cyndi said:
<br><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;<br><font size="3">Pasta, ramen noodles, cous cous, quinoa&nbsp;and rice can be soaked instead of boiled. It does change the texture, but it's still edible.</font><br>
<br><br>Really? That's awesome! That could make life so much easier...<br>
 
i've "cooked" alot of stuff in my smartmug that plugs into my cigarette lighter, and with one of those little 12V heating coils in a mug......it doesn't really boil, but gets up a good simmer pretty quickly, to hasten the prep of ramen, coucous, cup-a-soup, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Mug-Temperature-Control-Red/dp/B000F1Q24M" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Mug-Temperature-Control-Red/dp/B000F1Q24M</a></div><div><br></div><div>i've seen these cheaper:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://safetycentral.com/12volheatelh.html" target="_blank">http://safetycentral.com/12volheatelh.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>also great for coffee, tea, hot chocolate.....</div>
 
There are people following something called a "Raw Food Diet." I don't really know anything about it, but it might be worth researching.<br><br>Meg<br><br>
 
MargaretA said:
There are people following something called a "Raw Food Diet." I don't really know anything about it, but it might be worth researching.<br><br>Meg<br><br>
<br><br><font size="3"><font face="Georgia">I actually tried that for a very short time, but I just couldn't eat that many carrots... I'm sure it would be easier with a blender<img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"><br></font></font>
 
twokniveskatie said:
i've "cooked" alot of stuff in my smartmug that plugs into my cigarette lighter, and with one of those little 12V heating coils in a mug......it doesn't really boil, but gets up a good simmer pretty quickly, to hasten the prep of ramen, coucous, cup-a-soup, etc.<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Mug-Temperature-Control-Red/dp/B000F1Q24M" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Mug-Temperature-Control-Red/dp/B000F1Q24M</a></div><div><br></div><div>i've seen these cheaper:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://safetycentral.com/12volheatelh.html" target="_blank">http://safetycentral.com/12volheatelh.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>also great for coffee, tea, hot chocolate.....</div>
<br><br><font size="3"><font face="Georgia">Toys! That's such a cool idea</font></font><br>
 
I was a raw foodist at one time - hard core, vegan and all... then I moved to Central America and lived in an Indigeous village w/a refridgerator etc... and later built a palapa off-grid - completely - no cell, no elect no nada! &nbsp;Over my 50ish (yikes) years I have learned many tricks for preparing food - and especially love challenges .... &nbsp;(ask me, I'll help if I can, look up stuff, give ya ideas - just try and K.I.S.S. -keep it simple)<div><br></div><div>I bought a handcranked blender (GSI - Vortex Blender if you can buy it from LLBean b/c of their wonderful return/warrentee policy)</div><div>I learned many different ways of 'cooking' - sunfired (GREAT), solar, wood, dehydrating...</div><div>My favorite tools are actually a clean rock(s) for crushing spices (who needs a pepper mill, garlic press or coffee grinder after you practice and learn this?) &nbsp;</div><div>a good hunting style knife (multi-purpose), a sharpening stone, cutting 'board' - actual scrap of wood or one of those plastic sheet thingys b/c they are light for carrying and yes you can wash a new rock anywhere if you have water)... I do love a saladacco for making zucchini or other veggie 'pasta'</div><div><br></div><div>If I make a farmers cheese or saurkraut or mexican style salsa it just goes in recycled glass jars - keep it in the shade as much as possible</div><div>I grow sprouts anywhere and everywhere, even when I hiked. &nbsp;they need to be rinsed a couple times a day and I prefer to eat them young, around 3 days or so. &nbsp;Lentils are one of my favs. &nbsp;Garbanzos sprout good though they spoil rather quickly so I choose not to mess with them until I really want them or save them for a cooking item.</div><div>You can buy a solar dehydrator - but you don't need it with the roof on your van or rv and a good sunny day! &nbsp;flax crackers, sunflower &amp; flax almost bread, kale chips, bananas and fruits and veggies --- all dry wonderfully and yes, they take time and require a flip or two and occasionally more than one day. &nbsp;</div><div>Milk - nut milks are sooooo simple - if you are a blender person just whirl a handful of any kind of nut or seed with about a quart of water in a blender...strain (use a coffee sock - ask me if you need to - or a dollar store strainer or your bandana which we all have <img src="/images/boards/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"> . &nbsp;Without a blender - cut nuts up with your trusty knife or a nut chopper jar thing again dollar store, or crush them with a rock tho not so productive a method (I tried) then soak the chopped nuts/seeds in water a few hours or over nite. &nbsp;You can sweeten it or use as is.... Oat milk was an old explorers standard - one way to ease into the idea of alternative milks is to try Overnite Oatmeal for breakfast sometime. &nbsp;Put oatmeal (old fashioned long cooking is best though all the other kinds work, instant takes minutes and is mushy and on the other end of the spectrum steel cut takes a full day &amp; nite or two) &nbsp;in a container add raisins and cover with 2ce as much water, let soak over nite and enjoy in the morning. &nbsp;You can refridgerate for cold, tho I personally prefer mine room temperature... add other stuff, apples or bananas or other fruit, cinnamon (I love raisins &amp; cinnamon only in mine), or even honey and nuts - while hiking I just tossed in a portion of trail mix with almost twice as much oatmeal and a lot of water before going to bed...</div><div><br></div><div>Okay - I can go on and on.... so feel free to ask me more q's and I'll help - I think that sharing is part of how I can 'the the change' I want to see in the world!</div><div>Simply,</div><div>Lesa<br><div><br></div></div>
 
<FONT size=3>Lesa!&nbsp; That's some great information!&nbsp; Thanks!&nbsp; </FONT><br><FONT size=3></FONT>&nbsp;<br><FONT size=3>One of the things I ponder, on an almost daily basis, is how I am going to survive without my juicer and smoothies.&nbsp; Maybe the hand cranked blender will solve half of that dilemna.&nbsp; anyy ideas for juicing?</FONT><br>
 
Yup - if you choose to get a blender - blend the fruits or veggies with a little water then strain the liquid through a bandana/strainer....your choice... it's usually not a bad thing to drink more water - tho your juices won't be as 'pure' as run through a juicer alone..but you don't have to clean the darn machine! &nbsp;And there are hand operated juicers out there - I would have to look one up that is especially recommended by my wheat grass loving friends - they use a little patience and arm power (but that is our choice when we switch from one energy source - electricity to another - our arm).<div>Juicing greens is more difficult -- they don't smoosh so easily... get the pieces small enough and soak in water a little or whirl in the blender and you will get more benifit than not eating greens at all -- or think sun-tea!<br><div>Another juicing thought - always pick fruits and veggies that are really ripe, very watery (melon or oranges or tomatoes for example)... I have cut chunks of watery fruits up and squished them through a bandana and into a bowl before. &nbsp;I also heard (ya I experimented and tried this too) of a woman who didn't want any machines in her life - she was squishing bananas with her hands/fingers and mixing it in a bowl with water to make a smoothie style drink - it was lumpy - still tasted good - just lumpy and of course no ice.</div><div>The indigenous women had old tree root blenders - sort of a naturally grown handle with 5-6 'fingers' they would put in a container and then roll the long handle between their palms. (might be hard to envision - sorry)</div><div><br></div><div>I find it helps me to become clear about my favorite foods or fruits and veggies - as you would when you you are downsizing your clothes closet - because those favs become your routine foods, learn how to simply use them for everyday and you will be miles ahead on the simplicity factor. &nbsp;</div></div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps some.</div><div>Simply,</div><div>Lesa</div>
 
<P><FONT size=3 face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have purchased a years supply of powdered&nbsp;All Day Energy Greens <A href="http://www.ivlproducts.com" target=_blank target=_blank>www.ivlproducts.com</A> which has an awesome ingredient list beginning w/ alfalfa.&nbsp; An 11.36 oz can is $30&nbsp;...&nbsp;the&nbsp;years supply&nbsp;"deal" is $300 but you get 4 free cans&nbsp;(16 cans total) plus free shipping.&nbsp;this brings the cost down to $18.75 per can.&nbsp; If you know a few others who'd share the cost,</FONT><BR><FONT size=3 face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">this is another option.&nbsp;</FONT><BR><FONT size=3 face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></P><P><FONT size=3 face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">It can be mixed w/ water but is tastier in choc milk imo.&nbsp; I'm using 1/3 scoop so my can is lasting way longer than 30 days. the lable says 1tablespoon exceeds 5 servings of vegs &amp; fruits.&nbsp; </FONT><BR></P>
 
<P>Thanks Butterfly. I am an incredibly lazy eater. Yes fresh everything is better but I know myself. I practically live off protien smoothies berries&nbsp;and coconut milk (lactose problems). I didn't even realize you could get powdered veggies.</P>
 
butterfly said:
<p><font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3">I have purchased a years supply of powdered&nbsp;All Day Energy Greens <a href="http://www.ivlproducts.com" target="_blank">www.ivlproducts.com</a> which has an awesome ingredient list beginning w/ alfalfa.&nbsp; An 11.36 oz can is $30&nbsp;...&nbsp;the&nbsp;years supply&nbsp;"deal" is $300 but you get 4 free cans&nbsp;(16 cans total) plus free shipping.&nbsp;this brings the cost down to $18.75 per can.&nbsp; If you know a few others who'd share the cost,</font><br><font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3">this is another option.&nbsp;</font><br><font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3"></font></p><p><font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="3">It can be mixed w/ water but is tastier in choc milk imo.&nbsp; I'm using 1/3 scoop so my can is lasting way longer than 30 days. the lable says 1tablespoon exceeds 5 servings of vegs &amp; fruits.&nbsp; </font><br></p>
<br><br>That is amazing! I have to say that I a meat and potatoes kind of girl and might have some trouble with nonstop smoothies/liquid meals. But could always supplement once in&nbsp; while<br>
 
Soy lecithin should be no concern to anyone who consumes decaffinated coffee.
 

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