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Hi everyone!  My name is Karen, user name Firedancer because I LOVE Dave Matthews Band!  I'm probably about a year out from full timing it-but I have my camper ready to go-Lance 855 Truck Camper.  Next step is to buy a truck,so here is my question:
Diesel or Gas?
I've read up so much about pro's and con's of both.  My biggest concern is cost of upkeep of a Diesel.
 I plan on buying used, and plan on putting a lot of miles on the sucker! :D

What do you experts out there think?
 
Welcome Karen to the CRVL forums! To help you learn the ins and outs of these forums, this "Tips, Tricks and Rules" post lists some helpful information to get you started. We look forward to hearing more from you.

I like the older non electric diesels they are very simple and straight forward. but I work on my own stuff. the newer diesels are vey complicated and expensive to fix but then so are the gassers. big help.

highdesertranger
 
A diesel motor will last longer, have more power, and get better fuel mileage than a gas engine, but cost big $$ to initially buy, and to maintain. My 6.0L Excursion takes 14.5 quarts of oil, but still knocks down 18 mpg fully loaded with people, and gear. If I didn't have a #9000 TT to pull, I would have a gas truck.

-EVERYTHING on a diesel truck costs more to fix, and is much heavier than it's gas counterpart (I spent $1600 on having 4 new injectors installed).
-Diesel fuel costs more, and is harder to find in rural areas
-They are sometimes tempermental to get started in cold weather.
-They will pull anything you can hook up to (often pull two full hay wagons #14000 each), also pull a mini excavator with ease.
-Unless you are towing a big trailer, buy a gas truck.
 
Ckelly, please bring excavator to my house.


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I'm a Karen also :) HI!

diesel is best. They are the workhorse of trucks. Also, are you doing a lot of hills? Like out west?

Hills, big grades etc. means a diesel is far superior to a gasser. But if staying more in flat travel areas then a gasser will be easily ok. But my hubby point blank says a if you have an option before buying, always buy a diesel :) I hate to say that the upkeep of a diesel might be a tad more but what you are buying is more power, more strength, more longevity of that motor....so...

We had a TC on a diesel, it handled it beautifully.
 
From my personal experience, like HDR stated my '95 Dodge Ram 5.9 I BOUGHT 5 YEARS AGO FOR 7K WITH ABOUT 100.000 MILES Its second gen. 12 valve common rail mechanical. so my advice would be to get a 97 or earlier Cummins they won't come in 1/2 ton. get a one ton if you can. Don't let the inline 6 fool you every piston is about a liter in size, that said fix the "killer Dowel Pin" issue usually about 300 bucks. Good to go. Don't let higher milage scare you its all about maintenance. welcome to the forum. P.S I carry a 1978 8 ft. Alaskan camper on a 3/4 ton.
 
Thanks for the welcome and opinions all! I've been restricting my search to Ford F250's-should I include Dodge as well? Yay for the Karen's of the world Roamer! Yes, LOTS of hills-I love the mountains. I'm so ready to get out there-my little camper is sitting all alone about 1.5 hours away from me just waiting to hit the road. First planned extended road trip is set for September.
 
Hi Karen, welcome aboard! As far as your choice of trucks for your camper, you may want to visit the Lance Truck Camper forum on the Lance Owners of America site. The forum is invaluable for modifications, customization and helpful hints and troubleshooting. You ask your question there and you will likely get dozens of responses from members who have your model.

Congrats and happy travels,
Ted
 
ckelly78z said:
-They are sometimes tempermental to get started in cold weather.
maybe newer ones are better i'm sure but i had to use a block heater to keep my
Mercedes diesel going in the winter. i agree the engines last pretty much forever but 
the fuel is dirtier and more involved to produce,so it is more expensive and may be much
more so in the future. my $0.02
edited to add; oh, and welcome to the forums!!
 
Karen, if you were looking to buy new, I would recommend a gas engine truck for personal, average mileage use.

Slide-in truck campers don't stress a good sized gas engine like towing an 8000 pound travel trailer does. 

And the new trucks with large displacement V-8 gas engines have plenty of power, and the cost-per-mile overall will be less than diesel. Sometimes a LOT less. Gasoline fuel is available just about everywhere that people can be found, and is often a lot cheaper, so the MPG cost usually balances out.

Brand new diesel engines are crammed with emission control systems and devices..and those are known to reduce power, economy, and reliability...in general. Out-of-warranty repairs can be scary expensive.

Now, having said all that about NEW engines, if you are looking for used, consider both. Keep an open mind.

If looking at used, the options are many, although finding a nice low mileage diesel at a reasonable price is a bit harder, and often the history of the truck with very high mileage on the clock is unknown. Plus, some major problems can be hidden...of course that's also true with a gas engine but they don't cost as much to replace if it ever came to that.

Often you can buy a nice 4WD gas engine truck for the same price (or less) as an equivalent 2WD diesel engine truck. And most earlier model 3/4 and 1 ton diesel pickups do NOT have engine or exhaust braking....a real detriment to safety when towing or hauling heavy campers in the mountains. 

If you were looking to pull a large travel trailer, all over the country, I'd surely suggest a diesel (with auxiliary braking). But a slide-in truck camper is not a problem for a newer gas engine, as long as the truck chassis is 3/4 or 1 ton rated.
 
Footnote: After I posted the article above, I looked up the Lance 855. That's a large, heavy camper.

You will need to look at 1 ton pickups, maybe even dually pickups, and the choice in those is usually limited to diesel engines, although there are many older dually pickups with that big ol gasoline 454 size V-8 engine. The fuel mileage on those WAS pretty low.
 

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