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ahh_me2
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ahh_me2 said:
You might want to download the pdf I linked to above as it has a wealth of info on running Onan generators, servicing, troubleshooting etc.
It is about 68 pages and it is very comprehensive, probably a lot you might not understand, but I'm sure you can still learn lots from it.
Onan's are very good generators and usually very quiet as well.
B and C
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It sounds like the rounded thing is the air cleaner cover. Mine has that shape. The two shiny wire things holding in the air cleaner is actually one piece. The air cleaner cover goes under it too. It may take some doing to put it back on since you did not take it off. Glad to hear the metal cover is there too. It is easy to put back on and is also used to help cool the generator as a fan blows air through it. It will help with the sound too.lterry said:
Is it loud? These are one of a few that are approved for National Park use. They are not loud like the generators that contractors use. I don't remember what the db rating is. We went to Sturgis SD this last August for Bike Week and had to run the generator at night on the way there. The air conditioner in ours is louder than the generator is inside. Slept well
and cool. The generator burns about 1/3-1/2 gallon an hour under load.
My Roadtrek came with a 13k BTU air conditioner and a 700w microwave. You should be good to go with the smaller air conditioning unit.
There will have to be some kind of access from below to change the oil and for the exhaust pipe to exit. Yours is not mounted like mine. Yours being inside means that it is probably sitting in a cradle or hanging from straps with the bottom exposed underneath. My generator is harder to get to as it is mounted underneath with straps but draining it is easy if working on your back is easy. Mine is a little difficult to add the new oil as it is up pretty tight to the propane tank. I have to hold my finger over the quart bottle and let it drizzle in. Slow, but it works. Being able to access yours from above will probably let you use a funnel with a long hose on it. You will probably have to pour slow as air has to come out that filler as the oil goes in. When you first try to add oil, I recommend stuffing rags around the filler to catch any overflow.
Can you clean the tag enough to take a picture of it so we can get the exact model number for it? This would be tantamount to walking into an auto parts store and saying I have a 1969 Chevy. The parts guy will ask a lot more questions trying to find out exactly what Chevy you have. The model number will narrow it down to what parts are ever needed for it (fuel pump, air cleaner, etc.)
ahh_me2
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B and C said:Is it loud? These are one of a few that are approved for National Park use. They are not loud like the generators that contractors use. I don't remember what the db rating is. We went to Sturgis SD this last August for Bike Week and had to run the generator at night on the way there. The air conditioner in ours is louder than the generator is inside. Slept well
The published specs on Onan genny's is typically in the 66 to 71 db range, again, depending on which model.
lterry
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ahh_me2 said:
I looked at all the links you gave me. It's just that none of them list my model. The model and serial number is on the same line and it goes: e900321421 and KV-FA/26100A. Trust me, you can't see anything from the picture. It's not that it's dirty. It's very, very clean. So clean that the ink is gone. Only impressions are left. I had to scrape a pencil over it in order to get the impression, and these are the numbers/letters.
lterry
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It's a metal plate with the info on it instead of a sticker that's in that picture.
I've found my model # on other people's blogs/questions but I haven't seen it officially on any dealer/onan site.
I've found my model # on other people's blogs/questions but I haven't seen it officially on any dealer/onan site.
ahh_me2
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KV-FA/26100A
Is a valid Onan model number....
I'll see if I can find more info...
Is a valid Onan model number....
I'll see if I can find more info...
ahh_me2
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It's part of this particular series: RV QG 2800
Here is a link to a pdf on it:
http://www.advancedgeneratorservice.com/upload/a-1400.pdf
Your model is the first one listed, but this pdf isn't a service or user manual, more of a sales brochure spec/sheet.
I'll see if I can find an actual user manual.
Here is a link to a pdf on it:
http://www.advancedgeneratorservice.com/upload/a-1400.pdf
Your model is the first one listed, but this pdf isn't a service or user manual, more of a sales brochure spec/sheet.
I'll see if I can find an actual user manual.
lterry
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rvpopeye said:This thread is a wonderful example of why I a SO glad I found and spend so much time on CRVL.
I need lots of help.... :blush:
But I'm glad I have it!
ahh_me2
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I can't find the user/operator manual, but I have found the parts/service manual for that series.
http://yakimagenerator.com/generators/pdf/0981-0238.pdf
http://yakimagenerator.com/generators/pdf/0981-0238.pdf
ahh_me2
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ahh_me2
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Ok, so here's what we know:
Generator series is:RV QG 2800
Model number is:KV-FA/26100A
Sales brochure for the series:
http://www.advancedgeneratorservice.com/...a-1400.pdf
Parts Manual:
http://yakimagenerator.com/generators/pdf/0981-0238.pdf
Good overall Onan basic knowledge for any of their generators:
http://power.cummins.com/sites/default/f...123-EN.pdf
Now I guess it depends what you are trying to find out at this point.
The above is basic info to get you started and to give to someone that might be willing to help you out in person with the genset.
At the very least you can use the series/model info to google more info or to find some help on other forums that may be more familiar with this model.
I did find some older posts in other forums where they had the operator manuals, but the threads were 3-4 years old, so there should be more out there if you wish to search.
Are you looking to try and get this unit up and running?
Do you have some local help?
If you can post more, myself or others might be able to be of more help to you.
As for the pinching of the fuel line, it is probably a fault in the kill switch, which usually just grounds out the low voltage side of the spark system, causing it to stop.
Is there a stop/kill switch on a control panel somewhere, and do yo have a remote start panel somewhere in the vehicle?
The panel probably looks like this:
Generator series is:RV QG 2800
Model number is:KV-FA/26100A
Sales brochure for the series:
http://www.advancedgeneratorservice.com/...a-1400.pdf
Parts Manual:
http://yakimagenerator.com/generators/pdf/0981-0238.pdf
Good overall Onan basic knowledge for any of their generators:
http://power.cummins.com/sites/default/f...123-EN.pdf
Now I guess it depends what you are trying to find out at this point.
The above is basic info to get you started and to give to someone that might be willing to help you out in person with the genset.
At the very least you can use the series/model info to google more info or to find some help on other forums that may be more familiar with this model.
I did find some older posts in other forums where they had the operator manuals, but the threads were 3-4 years old, so there should be more out there if you wish to search.
Are you looking to try and get this unit up and running?
Do you have some local help?
If you can post more, myself or others might be able to be of more help to you.
As for the pinching of the fuel line, it is probably a fault in the kill switch, which usually just grounds out the low voltage side of the spark system, causing it to stop.
Is there a stop/kill switch on a control panel somewhere, and do yo have a remote start panel somewhere in the vehicle?
The panel probably looks like this:
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lterry
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There's a switch in the van on the wall and there's also a switch on the actual genny. I'm guessing neither work because if the PO had to take the panel off to pinch the gas line in order to make it cut off, then he would have seen the switch there and tried it also. I hate to take it to someone without even giving it a try myself. But I'm also concerned about not being able to get it off as I'm not sure about how to pinch the line nor sure how bad a thing it is to be pinching that line. I mean someone said above that it could be bad on the fuel filter (pump?) as well as wearing out the line.ahh_me2 said:
I did check the oil and it had plenty in it. I'd rather change it regardless.
And yes the label looked like that.
lterry
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rvpopeye said:This thread is a wonderful example of why I a SO glad I found and spend so much time on CRVL.
Yes! I'm so appreciative of all the helpful people.
ahh_me2
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Iterry, I will add some graphics to the picture you posted earlier once I get to my work and will post up a test or 2 for you to try.
We should be able to get some basic starting points to work off of from there.
I know you mentioned it has oil, but check the following in the meantime:
This is from the manual....
When I’m checking my oil, does the dipstick need to be screwed
in all the way?
A: In order to get the correct oil level reading, the dipstick must be screwed in
completely on all models with a screw-type dipstick, except for the RV QG
2800/2500 & RV QG 2800/2500 RM models; it sits on top of the fill tube.
Make sure the vehicle is level when checking oil level.
Just make sure there is an adequate amount of oil as there is a low oil level shutoff.
Don't worry about changing oil at this point
We should be able to get some basic starting points to work off of from there.
I know you mentioned it has oil, but check the following in the meantime:
This is from the manual....
When I’m checking my oil, does the dipstick need to be screwed
in all the way?
A: In order to get the correct oil level reading, the dipstick must be screwed in
completely on all models with a screw-type dipstick, except for the RV QG
2800/2500 & RV QG 2800/2500 RM models; it sits on top of the fill tube.
Make sure the vehicle is level when checking oil level.
Just make sure there is an adequate amount of oil as there is a low oil level shutoff.
Don't worry about changing oil at this point
lterry said:
Me too! If all goes according to plan, I'm about six months behind you so I'm watching with great interest
Hopefully next spring I'll be in the same position you are, working on a "new to me" van/RV and figuring out how it all works. It's nice to see all the helpful folks here who are so generous with their time and knowledge.Seriously, Lisa, you are an inspiration. It's great to see you tackling these issues, and I can only imagine the confidence you gain by learning your rig and how to maintain it. Rock on girl!
ahh_me2
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Iterry, the best thing to try at this point is a burp test.
Before you do what I have written below, check with my post above regarding oil level as we want to make sure there is an adequate supply of oil to prevent the LOL(low oil level) from preventing the generator from running.
If you look in the pic I added some text and lines.
I'm sure you know some of it, but it's to alleviate any confusion.
The air filter, the carburetor and the fuel line are identified.
You should see if you can pinch the fuel line by hand first, the hose might be
somewhat too stiff to fully pinch by hand, so you would need to find something to clamp it with.
You could use pliers that you hold and squeeze, you just have to make sure you don't have sharp edges that might cut the line.
Whichever method is used, you need to ensure that the gas line is fully pinched for the test.
Once you have figured out how to clamp it temporarily, even if it's just holding it manually, you will want to turn the power switch to "On" for a brief moment.
Here is what we are trying to accomplish:
-Is the battery hooked up to the starter.
-Is the Start switch functional
-Is the starter working
The reason for clamping the gas line is that we don't actually want the generator to start at this point, so if it does turn and starts, it will only run for a short period until the gas is used up from the line.
If it starts even briefly, then we know some of the basic parts of the system are working correctly.
If you want to try this and report back, we could then try a few more things to help you get going.
Before you do what I have written below, check with my post above regarding oil level as we want to make sure there is an adequate supply of oil to prevent the LOL(low oil level) from preventing the generator from running.
If you look in the pic I added some text and lines.
I'm sure you know some of it, but it's to alleviate any confusion.
The air filter, the carburetor and the fuel line are identified.
You should see if you can pinch the fuel line by hand first, the hose might be
somewhat too stiff to fully pinch by hand, so you would need to find something to clamp it with.
You could use pliers that you hold and squeeze, you just have to make sure you don't have sharp edges that might cut the line.
Whichever method is used, you need to ensure that the gas line is fully pinched for the test.
Once you have figured out how to clamp it temporarily, even if it's just holding it manually, you will want to turn the power switch to "On" for a brief moment.
Here is what we are trying to accomplish:
-Is the battery hooked up to the starter.
-Is the Start switch functional
-Is the starter working
The reason for clamping the gas line is that we don't actually want the generator to start at this point, so if it does turn and starts, it will only run for a short period until the gas is used up from the line.
If it starts even briefly, then we know some of the basic parts of the system are working correctly.
If you want to try this and report back, we could then try a few more things to help you get going.
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lterry
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mayble said:Me too! If all goes according to plan, I'm about six months behind you so I'm watching with great interest
Seriously, Lisa, you are an inspiration. It's great to see you tackling these issues, and I can only imagine the confidence you gain by learning your rig and how to maintain it. Rock on girl!
Now the you mention it, I am feeling a bit more confident. I can do this!
...with the help of my new friends
Ahh_me, I'm off to try that now. The oil dipstick is a screw on and it does have plenty of oil. It's a bit above the full mark.
