mini wood burner could it work & be save in a van

[wagoneer]

I picked this up at the last RTR at a vender in town wieghs about 50 pounds handmade of thick steel plate, nice ash box and burn grates not being a fan of propane heat was thinking the same but perhaps not having it inside the rig rather develop a system to transfer the heat into the space without having the fire in the truck

 

[wagoneer]

OK will try again with a smaller image

 

[Spirituallifetime]

Mine are a different model, but I found these on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...0&_nkw=kerosene+firewheel+camp+stove&_sacat=0

I looked at these stoves and I think I like them, just might have to get one, would go well with my karosene lantern so I would only need to get one kind fuel instead of buying propane and karosene.

 

[Txjaybird]

Mine are a different model, but I found these on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...0&_nkw=kerosene+firewheel+camp+stove&_sacat=0

Mine is an older model which uses a single flat wick on it's side, like the kerosene heaters use.  These use 8 smaller round wicks.  These are what we're putting in the camper vans we build for the homeless, two of them.  The description says they'll run on either diesel or kerosene, and you can go to any dollar store and buy a mop for a dollar and have a lifetime worth of replacement wicks.

I like having the two separate stoves, so if I'm using big pots, they can be placed far enough apart to accommodate them.  Not so easy if both burners are in a single unit.

I know a lot of people who use these and love them.  Simple, safe, and reliable, I like that.

Thank you for the ebay link. some of them look like they may be a little more stable with a big pot on them than others.  Is there a specific model  that you guys use on your van builds?

  I started to say I needed to get the " biggest bang for a buck" but I reckon I better not go there!  I do want the safest stove at the most cost effective price [cheapskate alert] .  The tip on the mop was choice, that is a cotton mop right?

You have mentioned before the vans some of you guys build to help folks get a safe roof over themselves and their families,  I would really be interested in learning more about this if you would like to tell me/us. or maybe there is a web site or blog?

Thanks again, Queenie and I are off to the library IF it's quit raining

                                                        Texas Jaybird and the Queen

 

[akrvbob]

Is there a specific model  that you guys use on your van builds?

You have mentioned before the vans some of you guys build to help folks get a safe roof over themselves and their families,  I would really be interested in learning more about this if you would like to tell me/us. or maybe there is a web site or blog?

There is only one person on the forum who claims to use Kerosene heaters in his van, and he's never provided any photos of his in his van. In fact he has never provided any photos of any of the things he claims no matter how much we ask him to. He's posted lots of photos, just none of the things he has and uses.

There is also only one person who claims to help the homeless do builds, again, he has provided no photos at all. I'd sure love to see some photos of him actually doing these things!!

Maybe you can talk him into it!
Bob

 

[SoulRaven]

I'm confused...  What is this gadget you have?  A stove or a heater?  Do you have a link and/or photo of it?  

I don't actually plan to run my heater day and night, just when I'm getting out of my sleeping bag in the morning and such, so I've been thinking about the Little Buddy system, but I'm open to other options.

When searching for some pictures, I came across a capture of a post I made elsewhere about my equipment, since a picture is worth 1,000 words, I'll attach it.

One additional thing to note, is how nice it is to run the kerosene heater in cold weather.  It's like having your own little campfire, or fireplace in your camper van.  Nice and warm and cozy.

 

[GotSmart]

Still batting 0  

 

[Spirituallifetime]

I found this site for kerosene stoves:
http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=73

 

[highdesertranger]

off grid we request in a good way, that you show us pics of your equipment in use. not a pic from an ads like the ones in post #27. ads are good sometimes, but a lot of us are curious of how you set this kero equipment up in a van. hell, I would like to see a pic of you van interior set up. highdesertranger

 

[akrvbob]

When searching for some pictures, I came across a capture of a post I made elsewhere about my equipment, since a picture is worth 1,000 words, I'll attach it.

One additional thing to note, is how nice it is to run the kerosene heater in cold weather.  It's like having your own little campfire, or fireplace in your camper van.  Nice and warm and cozy.

So you carry around in your van all the time:

1) two of the cookers, 
2) the heater, 
3) the lanterns and the brooder 
4) 14 gallons of kerosene 
5) a home-built generator, 
6) gas for the gen
7) a home-built air conditioner with an external heater core
8) a regular cooler with ice.
9) room for a shower inside
10) swivel rocker recliner

Ripleys Believe it or Not needs to hear from you and your magical  van. I need to see pictures of it all in your van, or I simply do not believe you and I think any reasonable person would think the same.

The idea that you carry all that around with you is so ludicrous that I beieve there is at least a 80% chance it's all fiction and you've never slept a night in a van in your life. 
Bob

 

[akrvbob]

So you carry around in your van all the time:

1) two of the cookers, 
2) the heater, 
3) the lanterns and the brooder 
4) 14 gallons of kerosene 
5) a home-built generator, 
6) gas for the gen
7) a home-built air conditioner with an external heater core
8) a regular 48 quart cooler with ice.
9) room for a shower inside
10) 2x7 gallon jugs of water (14 gallons total)
11) swivel rocker recliner

Ripleys Believe it or Not needs to hear from you and your magical  van. I need to see pictures of it all in your van, or I simply do not believe you and I think any reasonable person would think the same.

The idea that you carry all that around with you is so ludicrous that I believe there is at least a 80% chance it's all fiction and you've never slept a night in a van in your life. 
Bob

 

[highdesertranger]

I want to hear this. or better yet see it. highdesertranger

 

[Gary68]

the consensus say a mr.buddy will do in most cases but living in the north and using wood heat most my life i think having one of these for redundancy and cold spells would be nice if you have the room

 http://www.fatscostoves.com/

http://www.amazon.com/TMS-STOVE-2346-Portable-Military-Camping/dp/B002XNWC8A

 

[Txjaybird]

When searching for some pictures, I came across a capture of a post I made elsewhere about my equipment, since a picture is worth 1,000 words, I'll attach it.

One additional thing to note, is how nice it is to run the kerosene heater in cold weather.  It's like having your own little campfire, or fireplace in your camper van.  Nice and warm and cozy.

Thanks for all the information and the links too on this subject...did you mention your van is uninsulated?....if you spend time in cold country I don't see how you stand it.........one early spring in SD inside a house that had a busted furnace and had been empty for 8yrs taught me to appreciate HEAT......being from TX the lack of it had never been a problem.   

Hope you had a goood Easter........Texas Jaybird

 

[ggwoman]

Not sure about a woodstove fire in a small space. Wouldn't it get hot? Seems like in a small space you wouldn't need much to heat it up. I'm with Bitty, woodsmoke, sparks, ash, holes in rugs and nearby fabrics and bugs? erm, no thanks. I much prefer an outdoor fire and a kero lamp. I like the smell of kerosene.

Used one like this for two years - I loved it.  Super sturdy, no danger, light weight and easy to fill and clean.   https://www.lehmans.com/p-3571-alpaca-kerosene-cooker.aspx?show=all

But now I am thinking something like this baby would be great for evenings - heat, light and make soup too.  https://www.lehmans.com/p-8147-dietz-oil-lantern-cooker-black.aspx

 

[Txjaybird]

Thanks to everyone for sharing your thoughts  both pro and con on the little mini keg stoves and various other heat sources...it's been very informative in so many ways...looks like my calm and restful Easter has been shot all to hell without me ever leaving home.........I'm done now.

                                                                   Tjb

 

[Spirituallifetime]

This is a stove designed for wood or charcoal. Its made for use in small spaces on boats.
http://dickinsonmarine.com/product/newport-solid-fuel-heater/

 

[VJG1977]

When searching for some pictures, I came across a capture of a post I made elsewhere about my equipment, since a picture is worth 1,000 words, I'll attach it.

One additional thing to note, is how nice it is to run the kerosene heater in cold weather.  It's like having your own little campfire, or fireplace in your camper van.  Nice and warm and cozy.

Not the exact image but the same stove, here is a link to the stove on the left.
http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=226
10-WICK 7000 BTU KEROSENE STOVE
Entry-level stove produces 7000 btus. This one is already assembled.
Low cost, good for making coffee or frying with small skillet.
If you are preparing for an occasional power outage of short duration, this is a good choice.
Does not work well with the oven.
Approx 7,000 btus
Comes fully assembled
Holds 2.6 Quarts of fuel. Burns 5 ounces of fuel per hour on high.
Burns up to 14 hours per tank
Multi-Wick stoves have multiple cotton wicks, arranged in a circle, that can be raised or lowered to control the heat output. More wicks = more heat.
Stove comes with one wickset - extra wicksets available at very competitive prices
Another link about this stove ([font=Arial, sans-serif]Butterfly #2641[/font])  http://milesstair.com/bf-2641.html

Here is a link to the heater shown, second image from left. It is the exact same image even down to the flames.
http://www.builderdepot.com/browse.ihtml?step=5&prodstoreid=10596&pid=876838
HEATER KEROSENE 10.5K BTU / EA
One touch ignition. Automatic reset. Requires no electricity. Omni radiant burner provides both convection and radiant heat. Radiates in a 360 degree radius. 1.1 gallon fuel tank. Burns up to 15 hours. 

The image of the red lantern is the exact one that Walmart uses in its web site.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stansport-127-Kerosene-Lantern/21799095

The last image can be found at
http://www.milesstair.com/Mini_Kerosene_Heaters.html
....I kept looking for a viable off-the-shelf chimney...and found one literally off-the-shelf.  At right is a photo of a mini-heater before expanded metal was put on as a cooking grate, as illustrated below.  Notice the beautiful chimney that fits perfectly?  It is a family-size Campbell soup can.  Now there is no excuse for anyone to have a brooder heater without a chimney!  In fact, it is of thicker and stronger steel than the original chimney, and should last for decades.  Click on photos to enlarge them.
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[VJG1977]

Not the exact image but the same stove, here is a link to the stove on the left.
http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=226
10-WICK 7000 BTU KEROSENE STOVE
Entry-level stove produces 7000 btus. This one is already assembled.
Low cost, good for making coffee or frying with small skillet.
If you are preparing for an occasional power outage of short duration, this is a good choice.
Does not work well with the oven.
Approx 7,000 btus
Comes fully assembled
Holds 2.6 Quarts of fuel. Burns 5 ounces of fuel per hour on high.
Burns up to 14 hours per tank
Multi-Wick stoves have multiple cotton wicks, arranged in a circle, that can be raised or lowered to control the heat output. More wicks = more heat.
Stove comes with one wickset - extra wicksets available at very competitive prices
Another link about this stove ([font=Arial, sans-serif]Butterfly #2641[/font])  http://milesstair.com/bf-2641.html

Here is a link to the heater shown, second image from left. It is the exact same image even down to the flames.
http://www.builderdepot.com/browse.ihtml?step=5&prodstoreid=10596&pid=876838
HEATER KEROSENE 10.5K BTU / EA
One touch ignition. Automatic reset. Requires no electricity. Omni radiant burner provides both convection and radiant heat. Radiates in a 360 degree radius. 1.1 gallon fuel tank. Burns up to 15 hours. 

The image of the red lantern is the exact one that Walmart uses in its web site.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stansport-127-Kerosene-Lantern/21799095

The last image can be found at
http://www.milesstair.com/Mini_Kerosene_Heaters.html
....I kept looking for a viable off-the-shelf chimney...and found one literally off-the-shelf.  At right is a photo of a mini-heater before expanded metal was put on as a cooking grate, as illustrated below.  Notice the beautiful chimney that fits perfectly?  It is a family-size Campbell soup can.  Now there is no excuse for anyone to have a brooder heater without a chimney!  In fact, it is of thicker and stronger steel than the original chimney, and should last for decades.  Click on photos to enlarge them.
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The heater is also on Amazon, same image
Heater Kerosene 10.5k Btu

 

[Txjaybird]

Not the exact image but the same stove, here is a link to the stove on the left.
http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=226
10-WICK 7000 BTU KEROSENE STOVE
Entry-level stove produces 7000 btus. This one is already assembled.
Low cost, good for making coffee or frying with small skillet.
If you are preparing for an occasional power outage of short duration, this is a good choice.
Does not work well with the oven.
Approx 7,000 btus
Comes fully assembled
Holds 2.6 Quarts of fuel. Burns 5 ounces of fuel per hour on high.
Burns up to 14 hours per tank
Multi-Wick stoves have multiple cotton wicks, arranged in a circle, that can be raised or lowered to control the heat output. More wicks = more heat.
Stove comes with one wickset - extra wicksets available at very competitive prices
Another link about this stove ([font=Arial, sans-serif]Butterfly #2641[/font])  http://milesstair.com/bf-2641.html

Here is a link to the heater shown, second image from left. It is the exact same image even down to the flames.
http://www.builderdepot.com/browse.ihtml?step=5&prodstoreid=10596&pid=876838
HEATER KEROSENE 10.5K BTU / EA
One touch ignition. Automatic reset. Requires no electricity. Omni radiant burner provides both convection and radiant heat. Radiates in a 360 degree radius. 1.1 gallon fuel tank. Burns up to 15 hours. 

The image of the red lantern is the exact one that Walmart uses in its web site.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stansport-127-Kerosene-Lantern/21799095

The last image can be found at
http://www.milesstair.com/Mini_Kerosene_Heaters.html
....I kept looking for a viable off-the-shelf chimney...and found one literally off-the-shelf.  At right is a photo of a mini-heater before expanded metal was put on as a cooking grate, as illustrated below.  Notice the beautiful chimney that fits perfectly?  It is a family-size Campbell soup can.  Now there is no excuse for anyone to have a brooder heater without a chimney!  In fact, it is of thicker and stronger steel than the original chimney, and should last for decades.  Click on photos to enlarge them.
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WOW you sure know your kerosene stoves!   Thank you so much!  It's a rough day in my neighborhood so I've only read the info on the link at the bottom of your post.......BECAUSE  you made a chimney out of a soup can!   I am always roadside shopping  and any small metal objects or usable wood planks...... plywood.. 2x4s      always come home with me    I know it's a strange hobby for a solo female in a apt.....however as I said to a dear friend the 1st...2nd....and 3rd time he inquired " why are you buying paint  you know you will be in trouble if you paint the walls in your apt" the first 2 times I replied  " I will not always be in a [damn] apt....I will again be in my own  place whatever it may be and I'll paint/decorate as I please "....the 3rd time  I said " what the hell did I tell you the last 2 times   We are riends for 35yrs and we talk like that sometimes to each other & it's ok.

I think a lot of new things are " built to break " :huh: do you sell any of your refurbished items?  please PM or Email me if you do....or just post it here

                                               Thanks again!                               Texas Jaybird