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maki2

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Many of us on the road will be using coin operated laundry machines. I was just reading an article about the germiest public places that was posted on the weather.com website. They rate laundry-mats as one of the top of the list for germy. That does make a lot of sense when you consider everyone is bring in and washing dirty clothes including their underwear.

The inside of the washing machines have lots of bacteria in them unless the person before you used a ton of bleach in their wash and super hot water. Cold and warm water washing with regular laundry detergents removes a lot of the dirt but they do not kill all the bacteria that came from your own clothes or from the load washed by the last person to use the machine.

Even at home base I was having a problem during hot weather with my clothes that were just washed going rapidly bad smelling if they sat for even a short time before they got into the drier. It turned out the biggest cause of that was that the machine did not fully drain all the  water when the cycles were done so bacteria was staying in the machine and then getting recycled into the next load. I have resolved that issue by always adding a cup of white vinegar to each wash load and also putting a splash of vinegar into the machine after a load was done. It was not as if I could redesign the machine or buy a new one to replace it. Use white vinegar for your laundry, don't use apple cider, it has a lower PH and might also cause stains.


Some persons have complained about their clothes getting mildew while in storage and becoming musty. A preventative measure to take for that issue is to use Borax Washing Powder additive when you wash your clothes that need to go into storage. Borax kills mildew (mold) and it helps prevent its growth as well. They put borax into that blown in insulation products to prevent it from growing mold. It is also an ingredient in the newer, less toxic wood preservatives for the same reason. You can use vinegar as well as Borax laundry additive.

You do need to wash out and sanitize your laundry bags or dirty clothes bins as well especially if you are going to be loading your clean clothes back into them!
 
maki2 said:
Many of us on the road will be using coin operated laundry machines. . . .

I had wondered about bringing "Clorox" wipes to wipe down the inside of the machine when visiting a laundry mat. I use vinegar at home now occasionally, and my homemade laundry detergent has borax. I'm hoping to continue using my own laundry detergent---but I do need to rethink the storage container and just how I'm going to make it (usually only once a year).
 
Yet during my seven years on the road, using laundromats regularly, I've rarely been ill -- far less than back in my "normal" life. I suspect that's because I spend way less time around the prime germ spreaders: people, especially kids.
 
I use laundromats from time to time but along with my laundry soap and fabric softener sheets for the dryer I carry a bottle of white vinegar to add to the wash water.  Generally 1/4 to 1/2 Cup if it is a large load.  I even do this at home as it helps keep the washer clean of soap scum.

There are a couple of books titled "The Vinegar Book 1 & 2" where I picked up this tip  

The Vinegar Book
 
There are nasty places no doubt! There are also places that with care on your part you can likely leave with clean clothes!

I tend to choose places with a bit of care. I also tend visually examine and then smell test the washer before I use it. Maybe strange, but it’s saved me a few times!

I don’t use their dryers as often (My circumstances), but choose dryers the same way!

My clothes aren’t stacked, set on or folded on their tables! They go basket to machine and back to the basket.

My clothes also never sit after they’re finished! I set a timer (I go walking!) and am back by the machine (Usually before it stops!) within a minute of it stopping!

There are lots of bad ways of getting this done, but if you do your part you can have good results!

SD
 
I’ve been traveling and using public laundromats all over the country for 17 years, and have not been ill nor apparently contracted any clothing borne anything because of this.

Some are nicer than others, but almost all have done the job.

I use a homemade laundry detergent that contains Borax, as well, and insure my clothing is completely dry before storing, but don’t do anything else to prevent possible germs from the washers and dryers transferring themselves onto my clothing and then to me.

I don’t think this is necessary, tho certainly harmless if one wishes to do it.

Rather than our clothing causing us problems from laundromats, I think a bigger concern is the usual from touching any oft-used surface and then not washing hands.

Reasonable precautions should keep one safe.
 
On personal machines that get intermittent use, leaving the lid open to let the innards dry is good. Public machines get enough use that mold is not normally an issue. I do the sniff test before using a machine though. Sometimes people wash their oily rags in them and you can usually smell it.

I use some vinegar and baking soda along with the normal detergent when washing loads either at home or on the road. As long as the folding tables look clean, I use them. I have cramped quarters and folding things inside the van is not easy. If the tables are a little dirty, I will use one of my baby wipes on them first.
 
interesting thoughts, definately a lot of places to meet up with the iky nasties out in the world

i also try and work towards supporting a healthy and robust immune system to fight off these pesky critters i dont manage to avoid. cause in order to avoid all the iky nasties i would have to live like john travolta in the boy in the bubble. and we all know how that ended...
 
At one time Dryers commonly had a light bulb in them.  What most folks didn't know was that they were a special kind of light bulb that emitted OZONE as a purifying function for the dryer.  But they made an odd smell that women seemed to notice more than men. (keener sense of smell)  Eventually those special bulbs burnt out and got replaced with a regular bulb....most folks thinking the light was just for making it easier to see the clothing.  

I think that today a lot of commercial dryers have them but they are now long tubes inside where you can't see them.

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These "germicidal tube lights" are used still today in a variety of commercial equipment.  You just don't see them.

This may be part of the reason laundromats still endure today.

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Gypsy Freedom said:
i also try and work towards supporting a healthy and robust immune system to fight off these pesky critters i dont manage to avoid. 

Right, and we build antibodies by being exposed to germs. Big historical example: European explorers/settlers carried diseases Old World people had become immune to. The indigenous New World people had never been exposed to those diseases so they caught them and many populations were wiped out.

Our obsession with germ killing only wipes out the weaker strains, leaving disinfectant-resistant strains behind. We create super-germs and less-prepared immune systems.
 
At first I was like, ok I'll stop licking the washing machines. But then MrNoodly made a good point about building up immune system. So now I'm torn. Do I stop licking the washing machine because of the strange looks? Or keep licking them to build up immunity? I think a good rational compromise is to just lick every other washing machine.

P.S- Don't lick the drying machines. That's disgusting.
 
I figured I’d mention that the only real issue I’ve run into is some idiot washing a fuel soaked load of something right before I got there. It just about ruining my clothes since I hadn’t learned to smell the washer before I dumped my clothes it yet!

SD
 
I am not so concerned about immunity to germs, I would be unlikely to get ill from going to a laudramat unless the persons who were there had active cases of flu, colds and such and were spreading germs around by touching surfaces or by coughing and such.

I am more concerned about keeping the fabrics smelling fresher for a longer length of time as it is going to be inconvenient to just pop things into the washing machine several times a week.

The vinegar and borax is a great help with that as I don't want to use perfumed detergents or dryer sheets.
 
i gave up on trying to smell pretty. turned out boonedocking with a group of van dwellers that made me the weird one...


lol, incase someone is way to serious...
 
I appreciate the thought... especially as I just got done doing my laundry in one of the worst laundromats ever. Sad to say, it is in my hometown of Happy Camp, California where a family bought the tire shop and laundromat about seven years ago, then apparently resented having to take care of the laundromat.

Fourteen years ago I rented the little room in the corner of the laundromat for my webdesign and news business... I shared the space with the Chamber of Commerce. Now that room is messy, the desk is gone, there are greasy car parts on the floor.

The laundromat that used to be well-maintained with all machines working is in a sad state of disrepair. The showers there are now closed - they won't let anyone use the showers or bathroom. The washers - more than half of them are broken and taped shut. The other 4 are despicably dirty. The dryers... also half are not working any longer.

I manage the town's online facebook group and occasionally see a member of this family griping about the public's misuse of the laundromat. But apparently they've used the money for other things and won't put any back in to even clean the place! In a small (tiny) mountain town like Happy Camp, a laundromat is an essential public service.

I'm so sad to see this. I'm only happy there's a for sale sign in front of the property. Maybe someone will come who is willing to fix the place and make it work again. I knew the two previous owners and I know George (sweetest guy ever) would be rolling in his grave to see the mess they've made of the place. George used to come into my office to show me pictures of his late wife, telling about how much he loved her. He brought me a heater when it got cold. Very thoughtful guy who built a great laundromat to help out the people of this community.

Anyhow, thanks to this post I invested in a fresh bottle of white vinegar. Makes me feel cleaner already.
 
unfortunately these days tiny mountain town laundromats need to be money makers before most folks will invest in and keep them up. sad to see so many going away
 
maki2 said:
...I am more concerned about keeping the fabrics smelling fresher for a longer length of time...


Since I tend to travel and camp in areas with very low humidity, that's not a problem for me. Neither are other moisture-related problems.
 
Two things:

1. Portable UV wand. Sterilizes all surfaces within, say, 10 or 15 minutes. So flexible how you use it.

2. Hydrogen peroxide. Spray or wipe. Kills everything, residual is oxygen and hydrogen, harmless. 3% is enough concentration; dilute as needed.

3. Countertops, folding surfaces of any kind: Maybe it is not even washers or dryers that are the problem. Clean any countertops you fold your laundry on too. I bet you might get someone asking for a cleaning cloth or to use your spray bottle.

On another note, watch your stuff like a hawk. I have found people throwing in pissy diapers into my wash, making the whole thing smell like urine, and take off. Once when the kiddy shirts, pants, diapers and etc. were still in the machine and they were too lazy to take them out before they got caught. Those got tossed randomly around the neighborhood in a fury. Needless to say the piss smell took another washing -- somewhere ELSE -- to get out. I didn't want to bleach my dress shirts.

Anyway, watch your clothes like a hawk in a laundromat. Don't go away and come back later. SIT THERE. Or you could be ****ed.
 
I have to wonder how the average living space would rank for germiness.
 
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