Lesson Learned NF Time Limit Ticket

[RVFreeDa]

yes I am now a criminal! After 72 years of no crime or tickets I finally did it! Loading up my screen tent and scooter I pulled a muscle and stayed past 14 days to recover in the NF. Along come a ranger and gifted me a $105.00 ticket. No mercy on his part. But I was in the wrong so I deserved it. Just wanted to share my criminal activity! ? I feel like a complete person now!

 

[CityWoman]

What does NF stand for?

 

[user 423]

^
National forest. Where there are rangers and 14 day maximum length of stay limits.

 

[highdesertranger]

I feel bad for you but we must remember to fallow the rules. remember it is illegal to live on public land. the is a zero day limit if you tell them you live there. highdesertranger

 

[rayrey]

Where were you?

 

[sephson]

So you've decided to become a criminal. 

Before you know it, you'll be robbing liquor stores, after which you'll be all over the evening news in a high speed chase. :dodgy:

Poor Mikey and Seesmic will be thoroughly corrupted by your criminal mastermind example!  :angel:

 

[tx2sturgis]

Next time, wrap your knee in bandages and douse it with ketchup.

:angel:

 

[RoamerRV428]

ahhh, sorry for ya, the dreaded costly ticket! no one ever wants those!

but yea if you went past the rules and a ticket could be issued for doing just that, it stinks but it is what it is, pay up and move on!

Hope your doing better and improving, a bad pulled muscle can slow one down big time!

 

[LoupGarou]

Sounds like they knew just how long you had been there. That tells me their watching. Fine aside, I’d be more concerned that I was on their radar and the violation would put me in their database.

 

[Kaylee]

Did they warn you, at all?

remember it is illegal to live on public land. the is a zero day limit if you tell them you live there.

Citation, please.
Seriously, I'm not yanking your chain, I want to know the exact wording of this alleged statute.

I have told multiple gov workers that I'm "living" on public land, and they've all been chill about it. Granted, I also explain what I'm doing (very useful volunteer work), so that must help.

P.S. Yes, we've already established that I'm stupid about many things.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

The citation you want is: 36 CFR 261

     Code of Federal Regulations 
          Title 36: Parks, Forests, Public Lands
               Part 261: Prohibitions

Warning is not required
Do not need to establish intent
Class B Misdemeanor

 

[Kaylee]

Spiff: thanks!
261 has a bunch of sub stuff, some rather vague.
Could you narrow it down even more?
You Beagle peeps have the innate skills to do so.


My first guess was:
"261.10 Occupancy and use" part "b" but it doesn't appear to prohibit "living" just prohibits disobeying the duration rules.

I'm not contesting or confused by the duration rules.
They're often fairly well spelt out, though some individual Forest sites use unsafe techniques that make it hard for the cybersafe to view their dispersed camping time limits.

 

[LoupGarou]

If you’ve established Domicle somewhere, you’re not living on public lands. You’re just a recreational user there to enjoy the area for 14 days.

It helps to have addresses match on your drivers license, vehicle registration and proof of vehicle insurance.