Morgana
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Am I missing something, or are we arguing about statistics and making big-picture conclusions based on two randomly cherry-picked job announcements, out of a field that probably contains thousands of jobs, without any real sense of what the field involves, and zero knowledge of salaries or expectations for comparable jobs in other fields?
These may be some of the most beautifully crafted Titanic deck chairs I have ever seen, but that does not mean they will float.
Everybody already knows that the ratio between executive salaries and line-staff salaries is absurdly inflated.
Anyone who thinks that this problem does not extend to the nonprofit sector, or that people in the nonprofit sector are all idealists who've taken a vow of poverty, should take a closer look at reality.
These jobs probably recruit from a broad candidate pool, and thus must be competitive nationally not just locally, so local salary statistics are not too meaningful.
More importantly, in this entire long thread, I have not seen ONE SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE that any person in any of these jobs has done anything to sabotage them. You can play with statistics all you want, but the post that started this line of conversation made an ugly accusation that no-one has done anything to back up. "Moral hazard" is a clever sounding phrase, but if everyone did everything they were tempted to do, then we'd be living in Mad Max land, not USA 2023.
No doubt there is wrongdoing in this field as in every other. Whether that takes the form of sabotage (unlikely imo; there are a lot better ways to skim much more money out of this thing), and whether it makes up 50% or .05% of the problem, none of us here know. A couple random job ads don't shed much light on this. Easy to make dramatic accusations against people you don't know; harder to try to understand the problem, and even harder to try to fix it.
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These may be some of the most beautifully crafted Titanic deck chairs I have ever seen, but that does not mean they will float.
Everybody already knows that the ratio between executive salaries and line-staff salaries is absurdly inflated.
Anyone who thinks that this problem does not extend to the nonprofit sector, or that people in the nonprofit sector are all idealists who've taken a vow of poverty, should take a closer look at reality.
These jobs probably recruit from a broad candidate pool, and thus must be competitive nationally not just locally, so local salary statistics are not too meaningful.
More importantly, in this entire long thread, I have not seen ONE SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE that any person in any of these jobs has done anything to sabotage them. You can play with statistics all you want, but the post that started this line of conversation made an ugly accusation that no-one has done anything to back up. "Moral hazard" is a clever sounding phrase, but if everyone did everything they were tempted to do, then we'd be living in Mad Max land, not USA 2023.
No doubt there is wrongdoing in this field as in every other. Whether that takes the form of sabotage (unlikely imo; there are a lot better ways to skim much more money out of this thing), and whether it makes up 50% or .05% of the problem, none of us here know. A couple random job ads don't shed much light on this. Easy to make dramatic accusations against people you don't know; harder to try to understand the problem, and even harder to try to fix it.
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