Well, I suppose it's all part of a person's experiences. I've seen more than a few Chinagirls around here (actually, here means the area between the Okanagan & Vancouver) and the people didn't seem to have any problems with them. Yup, there's the question of legality but, aside from that, a lot depends on the owner. As a straight bolt-on proposition, a Chinagirl is a recipe for disappointment, if not disaster but, with a few modifications (for reliability) and proper matching between bike & engine, they can be a viable proposition. If a 'career drunk' or a 'meth-head' gets behind the wheel of a car, with the often consequent ugliness, can the vehicle itself be held to blame? I have a friend who's a 'functional alcoholic' and his truck is a horror show (F-250). I personally wouldn't condemn Ford trucks on the basis of his vehicle. <br> Aside from that, there are many people who can't leave well enough alone and feel the 'need' for more power/speed. That often leads to rather regrettable outcomes, regardless of the vehicle. Anyone buying a Chinagirl should be aware of exactly WHAT they are buying and what is entailed by it's use. Out of the box, it's generally substandard and a person has to work from there. <br> Personally, I think a 4 stroke kit would be the better option when it comes to reliability and could be the better long term option, despite the price. Still, the cheap 2 strokes have their appeal, especially if one is mechanically inclined (like me).<br> I have a question though.. have you ever tried/studied a CVT setup? I'm thinking about a rackmount CVT setup with my HS 4 stroke. As far as I'm concerned, a top speed of 30 Km/H is plenty fast and am looking at hill climbing and load carrying ability. Converting my recumbent into a delta trike and thinking of having one side powered (with a freewheel sprocket) and the other side pedaled. ..Willy. <br>