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Thanks QinReno I thought that was a good vid. on what to expect out there. Whew a lot more people around than I was thinking.
 
RoamerRV428 said:
Thanks QinReno I thought that was a good vid. on what to expect out there.  Whew a lot more people around than I was thinking.
RTR has been growing every year. The estimates for 2018 were about 4,000 people. Also there supposedly are 100,000 RVs in the Quartzsite area in the winter (hence my $5-billion estimate), but they are scattered all over the place between the La Posa CGs and boondocking on BLM land. So it doesn't seem like too much of a crunch when in town. 
- https://www.outdoorsy.com/blog/quartzsite-big-deal-world-rvs

I hope the pictures don't make you too ill - I didn't get into any huge crowds when I was there. You can avoid the crowds. You can also go to the surrounding areas, like Parker, Bouse, Ehrenberg, and you may like Lake Havasu City. Also, Yuma is popular with RVers in the winter, and also warmer than around Quartzsite.
 
Holy crap...just thinking about the rivers of human waste from that many warm bodies!

The Dire Wolfess
 
I'll be looking for those outlying areas of solitude, or at least, relative solitude. I'd be happy to walk an extra mile or two, just to have some privacy.

Oh, while I was writing this I got a notification that Bob just posted a WRTR video. Well, I'll go look at that. . . . .
 
Moxadox said:
Holy crap...just thinking about the rivers of human waste from that many warm bodies!
Which is probably why the BLM doesn't want everybody just pooping on the ground, and otherwise making a big PITA out of themselves. Let's see, 100,000 RVs at dump stations costing $10 apiece can add up to a big business. I wonder if the stuff from the dump stations just goes into some landfill on the sly.
 
La Posa South LTVA has a dump station if you are staying there you can get water and dump for free.
 
Cammalu said:
La Posa South LTVA has a dump station if you are staying there you can get water and dump for free.
Yeah, it was more of a rhetorical comment. There are like 100,000 RVs in the Quartzsite area in the winter, and a few 1000 or so in the LTVAs and RV parks, but most are apparently boondocking north of town, so they need emptying. Thinking about Moxie's "rivers" comment. Where does it all go? The town of Quartzsite itself only has a few 1000 residents.
 
QinReno said:
RTR has been growing every year. The estimates for 2018 were about 4,000 people. Also there supposedly are 100,000 RVs in the Quartzsite area in the winter (hence my $5-billion estimate), but they are scattered all over the place between the La Posa CGs and boondocking on BLM land. So it doesn't seem like too much of a crunch when in town. 
- https://www.outdoorsy.com/blog/quartzsite-big-deal-world-rvs

I hope the pictures don't make you too ill - I didn't get into any huge crowds when I was there. You can avoid the crowds. You can also go to the surrounding areas, like Parker, Bouse, Ehrenberg, and you may like Lake Havasu City. Also, Yuma is popular with RVers in the winter, and also warmer than around Quartzsite.
You avoid those big crowds do ya?
YES that would be us also :)

whew on all those packed in there.  I don't know if I could handle that so you mentioning the surrounding areas is key for us.  We are more loner types.  Very small state campground types, avoiding the 'touristy' thing at every turn mostly.  I did hear a lot about Yuma on many of my research posts.  Appreciate your posting some info on this big 'ta-do' for me to check out!!
 
RoamerRV428 said:
You avoid those big crowds do ya?
YES that would be us also :)
Just for the fun of it, I found some truly amazing pictures. Mind boggling riot.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tjco624aECk/UQgSK5TkRrI/AAAAAAAAQ_I/uOrplPSmo-0/s1600/Quartzsite+05.jpg
http://www.usaadventuregear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Quartzsite-AZ1.jpg
http://kbuxradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Quartzsite-from-above.jpg

Here is the scene from google maps 3D looking south, if it works for you. Hold down the "Ctrl" key and pan around.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Q...998648bdd0b32!8m2!3d33.6639137!4d-114.2299486
 
Moxadox said:
I have to describe this link, so it seems...OH NOOOOOOO!

I saw one little tiny patch of desert where you could wedge your 5th wheel into, LOL. 

Actually, I've been checking out Plomosa Road out near Bouse, which I didn't know about last winter, and there are some nice large open areas. Not sure how many RVs go there in the winter. WRTR will be somewheres out there, but being a boy, they don't tell me where. 13-miles from downtown Quartzsite. See if this works in 3D mode on your whateveryouhave.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Q...998648bdd0b32!8m2!3d33.6639137!4d-114.2299486
 
Ugh, I get the heebie-jeebies looking at the Quartzsite crush. Bouse looks doable. I'm prolly going to mostly stick to my nice open range land south of Tucson this winter. Not as cheap as Q, but much more relaxing!

The Dire Wolfess
 
Moxadox said:
Ugh, I get the heebie-jeebies looking at the Quartzsite crush.  Bouse looks doable.  I'm prolly going to mostly stick to my nice open range land south of Tucson this winter.  Not as cheap as Q, but much more relaxing!

The Dire Wolfess
I believe that SueAnne mentioned in the video that there were only 200 (??) women at WRTR last year. So much better peoplewise than even RTR with 4,000, let alone Q in general.

You probably know this, but RV-Sue spent a lot of time boondocking in the area south of Tucson, especially Las Cienegas NCA (see her campsite list), and ended up buying a place in one of the small towns there. I did go through the area last winter, stopping in Tombstone, etc, and liked it quite a bit too, but hot in the summer.
http://rvsueandcrew.net/
http://rvsueandcrew.net/our-camps/camps-in-2018/
 
I just found out that my favorite place, Empire Ranch, was burned by a fire started by an office duty Border Patrol agent firing exploding targets!!! The fire department just barely managed to save the historic buildings by starting back fires. Last winter I stayed at Cieneguita on and off, two weeks on/two off to be specific. I guess it'll be good for the grasslands in the long run but now I have to change my plans.

Let me guess: Arivaca? Aside from the new crop of vigilantes over there, it's a great little town. La Gitana Cantina rocks! I don't know why, but I love that part of AZ. The Santa Rita mtns are just so beautiful. Spent a couple weeks on the Buenos Aires Wildlife Preserve, also very gorgeous, but the Air Force decided to train low altitude strafing runs with their dang Warthogs right over my camp. Closest I've ever come to actually freaking out--they were so low I could look right through those huge cylindrical engines.



The Dire Wolfess
 
I would like to point out that in those pictures Reno posted what you are actually seeing is the city itself, the RV parks, and the swap meets. you are not seeing the LTVA's or the area where the RTR is held. well you can see them on the horizon but there is no detail. highdesertranger
 
Yeah, for latecomers, the link back in post #17 had a drone's eye view of the RTR area.
 
Moxadox said:
Let me guess: Arivaca?  Aside from the new crop of vigilantes over there, it's a great little town.  La Gitana Cantina rocks!  I don't know why, but I love that part of AZ.  The Santa Rita mtns are just so beautiful.  Spent a couple weeks on the Buenos Aires Wildlife Preserve, also very gorgeous, but the Air Force decided to train low altitude strafing runs with their dang Warthogs right over my camp.  Closest I've ever come to actually freaking out--they were so low I could look right through those huge cylindrical engines.


I did like the area quite a bit, but don't intend to get that far east this winter. You got to see the A10s doing what they were designed to do - very low level, high-impact attack. Good thing they were not armed.


Much of the area to the west of there is shown on the maps to be military bombing and target practice range. In his books, Edward Abbey talked about hiking through the restricted zones and flipping off the fighter pilots.
 
I spent considerable time around the Tombstone area, last Summer. It did get awful hot. No humidity. However, I liked the people - a lot. I'm thinking about spending next Spring in that general area. I wonder how the boondocking might be...?
 
LivGolden said:
I spent considerable time around the Tombstone area, last Summer. It did get awful hot. No humidity. However, I liked the people - a lot. I'm thinking about spending next Spring in that general area. I wonder how the boondocking might be...?
Moxie might know. From what I found it was pretty miserable. From Sierra Vista to Tombstone to Bisbee to Douglas to Chirachua, the only place was Whitewater Draw, and then all the spaces in the tiny fenced in area around the only toilet were filled by large RVs. 
- https://freecampsites.net/#!Tombstone, AZ, United States
https://freecampsites.net/#!2650&query=sitedetails

Or maybe the Charleston Rd spot which I didn't go to - it is in the Riparian Zone and the people in the visitor center did tell me no camping anywheres in the zone. Dragoon Mtns look better.
https://freecampsites.net/#!8091&query=sitedetails
 
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