Do you fish for food?

[Raven+Squid]

Gave up fishing and hunting in California a long time ago. Cost's have skyrocketed and the restrictions are rediculous. It's become a catch and release state. I really feel like the department of fish and game doesn't want anyone fishing or hunting anymore. They've simply become mobile IRS revenue agents, writing citations at every opportunity.

We fish alot in the alpine in Cali. Never been fined.

Limiting factor is mercury in the fish (from coal burning) Seems like each time the people that are now running things show up they just reverse what progress has been made cleaning things up. 

Too bad they are so far up corporations ☆☆☆.

 

[Raven+Squid]

Btw these are pristine alpine lakes in the backcountry.

High mercury levels.

 

[Vagabound]

... They've simply become mobile IRS revenue agents, writing citations at every opportunity.

I couldn't agree more.

Tom

 

[WesternRailfan5181]

I avoid California at all cost. Too much traffic, idiots left and right, the police watching any opportunity to write you a ticket for something, and do not get me started on the criminals hiding everywhere in southern commiefornia. Let them bury themselves in their own regulations and avoid that state like the plague.

 

[user 13531]

https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=117095&inline

Need I say more.....

 

[bullfrog]

That is why I like fishing Lake Powell. Most tickets are for lack of a licence or over possession and you are allowed to eat as you fish. No limits on striped bass or walleye, they aren't even considered a game fish. No live bait except crayfish caught at Lake Powell. When striped bass fishing you can use artificial light, chum and even use a gaff on them if you want to. It's the only place I felt comfortable fishing with wild life law enforcement officers and that is saying a bunch.

 

[TrainChaser]

I think I already know the answer to this, but I'll ask anyway.

In my travels on YouTube, I ran across a couple of them where the people were out in some fishy-type water in smallish boats, minding their own business, when fish jumped into their boats.

I'm assuming that if that happens, you'd either better have a license or be ready to throw it back. I don't suppose that you could just keep it as a Gift From the Gods and eat it, right?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

We have Silver Carp (a subspecies of Asian carp) moving up the Mississippi, which when disturbed will jump 8 - 10 ft in the air and sometimes land in boats.  They have been classified as a undesirable fish in Minnesota (as are all species of carp) and as such it is illegal to throw them back into a lake or waterway.  I think that other states will have similar laws about invasive species.  If you don't have a license in the boat you will be OK, unless you have fishing tackle.  You will probably get a 'thank you' from a conservation officer if he finds you with them.

Some people like carp, some don't.  I've only had them smoked; it was OK.

 -- Spiff

 

[bullfrog]

What you would have is a slimy mess!

 

[Vagabound]

What you would have is a slimy mess!

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TrainChaser:
Yeah, just try to explain the gift from the gods concept to the fish and game guy. I like to be sitting in the boat listening to that story.

Tom

 

[bullfrog]

Carp are covered in a mucus like slime that protects them from bacteria and other organisms in the water, it covers any thing it touches and is almost like grabbing something covered in a 1/4" of snot.

 

[Vagabound]

Carp are covered in a mucus like slime that protects them from bacteria and other organisms in the water, it covers any thing it touches and is almost like grabbing something covered in a 1/4" of snot.

Different kind of carp than the one we're talking about in this case, but years ago scuba diving in the Colorado River, our main amusement was trying to catch common, bottom-feeding carp between our legs. During my Drift Diving certification class, we would float along the Colorado and drift right over the carp and try to grab them while they were busily focused on maintaining their positions in the current. Harder than it looked.

Tom

 

[bullfrog]

The kids here at Lake Powell in Halls Crossing in the summer time drop some soft serve ice cream off the dock which attracts tons of them on the surface. Love the looks on their faces when they see what is on their hand after touching one for the first time.

 

[Kathleen]

I think I already know the answer to this, but I'll ask anyway.

In my travels on YouTube, I ran across a couple of them where the people were out in some fishy-type water in smallish boats, minding their own business, when fish jumped into their boats.

I'm assuming that if that happens, you'd either better have a license or be ready to throw it back.  I don't suppose that you could just keep it as a Gift From the Gods and eat it, right?

Not if the wardens are watching. If you get LOST in your boat (in some huge waterway) you tell them immediately "I'm lost, thank goodness you found me." Can't fine you for survival fishing.

I watch fishing on Youtube too. Survival fishing, lost in the woods kinda deal. If you catch enough minnows you've got fish soup. Vid shows easy way to to get 20-30. Pine needles and a few berries add nutrition to the broth. There's people living out there that know mushrooms and edible plants, sap chewing gum, pinon nuts, cactus flower juice.

These people are a bunch of steps past boon docking. And you may never see them, because they know how to blend in with their environment.

 

[highdesertranger]

how can you be lost in the lower 48 in a boat? highdesertranger

 

[IanC]

I saw a work camping job at a fish hatchery in Oregon. I wondered if they let the worker take a salmon or two on occasion. Seems like it would be a good perk.

 

[Every Road Leads Home]

how can you be lost in the lower 48 in a boat?  highdesertranger

Some of the waterways in Bayou country can get you twisted and turned around pretty quick.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

how can you be lost in the lower 48 in a boat?  highdesertranger

Before GPS, two places I have been lost in a boat:

Little Saganaga, BWCA; large lake filled with islands.  One can get turned around real fast.
Lake Superior, MN; out of sight of land and the fog rolls in.  With a compass you will find land but you will probably not know where you are.

Been there, done that.  Spent some uncomfortable nights in the boat.

 -- Spiff

 

[Kathleen]

Before GPS, two places I have been lost in a boat:

Little Saganaga, BWCA; large lake filled with islands.  One can get turned around real fast.
Lake Superior, MN; out of sight of land and the fog rolls in.  With a compass you will find land but you will probably not know where you are.

Been there, done that.  Spent some uncomfortable nights in the boat.

 -- Spiff

Yup, Minnesota is where I was thinking about. Down in the bayou, another location, for sure.

 

[SalsaDog]

I throw in a few set lines whenever the missis and I have a taste for a fish or two, works great. My grandfather taught me
when I was old enough to carry a small bucket with some bait and tackle in. I know it's a little naughty, but the sky hasn't fallen
yet because I use moderation, discretion and COMMON SENSE.

He also taught me to smear the butter on the homemade bread BEFORE you cut the slice off. That was so cool the first time
I saw him do that. I still do that to this day and think of the man everytime. I'm trying to convince my daughter to bake bread,
so I can teach our two grand girls. For now, they get to do it when they visit.

Grandma taught them how girls go in the woods. Our daughter was less then impressed. Evidently the youngest was practicing
in the back yard. We stood our ground; take them camping or into the woods more. She is used to parents who have lived in
the woods all their lives.

I will stop derailing now.