covid-19 (new corona virus)

[B and C]

Chill people. I keep hearing chicken little in my head. We lived through the swine flu, the bird flu and sars. What makes this so different? Sometimes the heard gets thinned. If it is me, so be it. We don't get out alive anyway. I think driving is far more dangerous.

 

[user 423]

We lived through the swine flu, the bird flu and sars.

On top of that you did survive your recent trip to Costco!

 

[maki2]

I went today to get a prescription refilled in Seattle. I actually risked going inside of the pharmacy at rush hour when it is normally pretty busy. I was one of 3 customers in the whole of the store. Rush hour traffic which is usually pretty jammed up was today about the level of traffic at 10:00 am on a weekday. Lots of places were closed with signs on their doors saying see you eventually...

 

[Ticklebellly]

"And it's good to know that Medicare will pay for the test. "
From where does Medicare get that magic money?

Money is not the problem.    Not enough test kits to meet the demand is the problem.    Without sufficient testing, no one knows how many infected people there are out there.   Sources of accurate and valid information on the situation are hard to find.    And No, I am not in a panic and am minimising my contact with the herd.    Blood bank is pleading for us regular blood donors to keep our appointments.   Donors are not being tested, just screened on recent travel and current health status.

 

[maki2]

Chill people.  I keep hearing chicken little in my head.  We lived through the swine flu, the bird flu and sars.  What makes this so different?  Sometimes the heard gets thinned.  If it is me, so be it.  We don't get out alive anyway.  I think driving is far more dangerous.

what is different? 

SARS in the United states, 148 cases ZERO deaths. You are remembering that there was a scare but you have forgotten what the actual real life situation was.

USA , swine flu, only a few people caught it, one woman died the others who caught it from her were her husband and some of the hospital personnel....there was a scare but again you have forgotten what the real life situation was.  They did find it in some pigs in the USA, they were destroyed.

USA Bird flu....there was no outbreak in the USA, no reported cases in humans, scare only, never a reality in this country.

USA Covid 19, it is a very fast spreading virus with the number of deaths and cases  rapidly increasing every day. It is highly contagious unlike the virus you mentioned. Not a scare, it is reality, it is happening, it is a worldwide pandemic and the fight is on to slow it down with the only tools we have, isolation and hand washing and cleaning of surfaces. The reality is there is nothing else that can be done and that is what scares people about it.


"Sometimes the herd gets thinned" this is one of those things that is better left unsaid in public, especially in the present situation.  You might be saying it to someone who will lose a loved one or a co worker, or a neighbor or a family member or it might happen to members of this forum which has plenty of seniors in the high risk category. We are not an uncivilized country even though it sometimes seems that way.

 

[hugemoth]

I just double checked. They have pickup. In fact, all the pickup slots are taken until Sunday. I would post a link but I'm in my account on their site and I doubt that would work.

The first time I looked into it a few days ago. Parker didn't come up in pickup locations. I think Parker has three zip codes so I used a different zip the second time I searched and it did come up. I'm pretty sure I saw the pickup sign when I was physically at that store a few days ago which is why I double checked..

Parker Walmart does have "Pickup" for online non grocery orders but you need to go in and wait in line at the customer service desk. I used that service for a new camp chair 3 weeks ago. At that time they did not offer grocery pickup in the parking lot. I use the Walmart grocery app to order geoceries and pick up at the Redmond Oregon store. Works great!

 

[notsosure]

My Landlord is threatening eviction because I am refusing an open house.  I will be said to be uncooperative.  The States schools were just closed. Be happy your not dealing with a tyrant.  They threaten when they know full well it takes two months to evict and it would impede a sale.  All the while I am paying half their mortgage.  Who buys now with potential job loss, and when they cannot sell their own at at a below market price?  I cannot say that I have a good experience in 30 years of renting.  Then I had to listen to Mr. realtor repeat himself, to convince himself of his views.  He said he knows nothing of Landlord Responsibilities, or Laws. I already went to the State for illegal entry procedures and pressure to show without proper notice.   I had to fluff the narcissist to show him how being ethical could make him look good to buyers, by implementing caution during this process.

 

[maki2]

Evictions are going to become an issue very quickly with many people loosing their jobs in this health issue crisis..  Fortunately in Seattle the mayor wants to do something to help keep people in their current housing for at least the next few months.  Hopefully this will set an example for more areas that become hard hit by this situation...... "Due to the novel coronavirus pandemic, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan plans to sign an emergency order temporarily halting residential evictions, she said Friday (that was yesterday March 13). She didn’t immediately share details about how exactly the order would work."

there could be a compromise that both you and the Real estate could live with. Such as the real estate company agrees to have a professional cleaning service come in after the open house...maybe even also before the open house as well. It is a little disruptive to you but it does mean a less work to do when you do move out. Free carpet cleaning, the walls are all nicely washed, windows too Just bend a bit and by doing so get something back of real value for bending. It can be a win/win.

 

[maki2]

oh and don't forget to bargain for a written agreement that you will not be charged for any damage or cleaning fees when you move out. That is also a critical thing to negotiate for. You are in a great position to make sure they don't hang onto your damage deposit which they might do if you don't cooperate. You could even negotiate with the real estate agent to get some free help to bring some boxes and packing material and come over and help you pack up some of your stuff so the place looks better for the open house.

 

[B and C]

Sorry your feelings got hurt Maki2. I have never been politically correct. I call a spade a spade.

 

[maki2]

You knew it was socially inappropriate but you did it anyway and you did it because you don't want people to discuss this subject so you were trying to get it stopped. You want to ignore it so you are trying to make it go away by not being politically correct. You can't make it go away and that is all there is to that. It is here and will be here for many more months of time if not longer.

 

[notsosure]

The realtor claims it will be sold in three showings.  I got him to agree to scheduled individual parties, but for how long? 
This is an old dump on the river though, and with flooding?  This keeps happening which is what drew me to the forum.  I hope I am not stealing time with these issues.  It is funny how the Landlord is told not to talk to people, it will tell too much? :idea:   There are scary issues here, and repairs monthly.  They don't fill people in on that.  It is built into a hill and rotted under the siding, animal problems, frozen pipes, etc... Shameful, the profit you can make with a nonstop mouth and pretense.  The tin shack is listed as a garage.  The surrounding nature romanticized it for me, again.  
I am planning a car escape if needed.  It is nice to have this resource.  Some of us can't move back home.

 

[B and C]

OK Maki, you win!

 

[ByeBye]

Death, I fear not...it's other folks' fear of death that causes more situations for me.

News flash: none of us are getting out of here alive . Only change I will make is making resupply last longer and wiping off shopping cart handle.
I already avoid large groups of people and boondock 95% of time. Part of the reason I chose this way of life

 

[tx2sturgis]

(Duplicate of an earlier post)

New Mexico has closed the state parks to overnight camping:

http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/SPD/

 

[Stargazer]

"Death, I fear not...it's other folks' fear of death that causes more situations for me."  MaTaLa

Well said!

We are so afraid of death and it is almost forbidden to speak about it in all but hushed tones.  We don't say someone "died", we say they "passed".  I don't understand this.  Dying is a natural event.  Fight it as long as you can, it's gonna happen, Covid19 or not.  Nature will always win.  Why is it so bad to talk about it? Why is such a natural and inevitable event so offensive?
Someone dies and someone is sad and misses them.  That is part of living. 

As for "culling" (ok, maybe that is a strong word), we have so overpopulated this planet that it is inevitable that such an event will occur.  Is it Covid-19?  I strongly doubt it.  Too many people survive it.

Be more afraid of the panic and crowd hysteria, of the "protective" laws that may be passed in overreaction to this natural event.  In a few years, will we be talking about the freedoms we lost during the good ole days pre-Covid-19?

 

[tx2sturgis]

Meanwhile, Happy 'piday'...

3.14...


https://www.piday.org/

Celebrate math, OR....go eat some 'pi'.

 

[user 423]

You can't make it go away and that is all there is to that. It is here and will be here for many more months of time if not longer.

Some people just can't handle a little gallows humor. "Sometimes the herd gets thinned" is merely stating a fact.

 

[fantym1]

Oh my, getting a bit hysterical there ? Not to mention, omniscient, re: motivations of others.

& yes, crowd panic/hysteria & those "protective" measures which will be enacted is WAY more scarey.

Perhaps defunding CDC wasn't such a good idea after all

 

[Ticklebellly]

Perhaps defunding CDC wasn't such a good idea after all

I'm still waiting for the 15 cases to "Go away as if by a miracle".

Two public meetings I went to this week; declare your travel history, whether you have been in contact with a confirmed case, and current health status is Good.   Wife's sewing group is doing similar online before their meeting next week.   Strikes me as a sensible approach without hiding away in a panic.