Buying Land

[twomountainlions]

I adapted to mosquitoes on Kauai pretty quick. Still got bit... constantly... but they quit leaving welts. I haven't experienced that anyplace else I've lived though. Don't think I'd want to count on it!

People live in rural Maine, Minnesota, lots of mosquitoes there but many seem to not be bothered by bites. Some say there is no real outdoors without mosquitoes... Nice not to have them though. But waterless places aren't a solution for me. The worst case of being eaten alive happened to me in arid Arizona, no see ums came from a farm pond

 

[Gr8ful]

I had my spot in the grass to sit by the river near my camp, was afraid to leave it for a short time even, saw some fishermen making a beeline for it, they hauled off quick once they saw me rushing back to claim the spot, some crazy circu

It's public property that you don't own or control. You're only free if you're debt free and own property. We can see only 1 house from our house or yard & none from the cabin on the back of the farm or the rest of the farm.

 

[twomountainlions]

there were some state land sales in remote plbut few have developed them, as its rather expensive flying, river boat,snow machining in and out and getting materials and supplies flown, river transported or snow machined in, and few people truly realize what remote living is until they step into it.

I'm from the cold North and there is always love hate relationship with the North (lower 48 are the South).
In Alaska people sometimes built from materials available on site and lived the old way, so not that much heavy hauling was needed. But yes hauling 100 miles by the river, it can be dangerous. Some wanted that danger precisely

 

[twomountainlions]

It's public property that you don't own or control. You're only free if you're debt free and own property. We can see only 1 house from our house or yard & none from the cabin on the back of the farm or the rest of the farm.

Well private property by the river is hella expensive these days. Not like in Alaska during homesteading days, also they just built cabins on public land in Alaska right by the river and lived there full time even just 40 years ago. Now land by the river is very pricey

 

[twomountainlions]

And pricey land has pricey land taxes. I've seen some parcels by rivers including with homes, now its like winning a lottery to buy a moderately priced one. Even in 2023, I know that any land with even the tiniest creek or pond that wasnt a pure slope of a mountain and had no big problems like pipeline through was pounced on with multiple offers over asking in many the Eastern states including WV within 2 hours of being listed. Worst time to buy land in history!

 

[Gr8ful]

Land has almost always been a good investment especially farm & tree farm land at least for us. As they say "They're not making anymore"

 

[twomountainlions]

Land moves in cycles, there had been farmland busts in the past, there will be another one probably (real estate is said to have 18 year cycles that correllate with drought cycles) but there will not be old days of cheap or free abundant good land, not until major socioeconomic events of the war or collapse type.

 

[Gr8ful]

I know that any land with even the tiniest creek or pond that wasnt a pure slope of a mountain and had no big problems like pipeline through was pounced on with multiple offers over asking in many the Eastern states including WV within 2 hours of being listed. Worst time to buy land in history!

The best way I've found is find what you want and find the owner &see if they want to sell. I wanted a runway lot in Gaylord near the bridge &picked the one I liked, tracked the owner down & bought it right. The owner inherited it & didn't even fly. Win-Win for us both. You have to do lots of homework sometimes.

 

[twomountainlions]

The best way I've found is find what you want and find the owner &see if they want to sell. I wanted a runway lot in Gaylord near the bridge &picked the one I liked, tracked the owner down & bought it right. The owner inherited it & didn't even fly. Win-Win for us both. You have to do lots of homework sometimes.

That works well when someone has a homebase so they are not pressed for time in their search. Good to buy some homebase and then use that for more extensive search, may be I will use that tactics once I relocate overseas.

 

[rruff]

The worst case of being eaten alive happened to me in arid Arizona, no see ums came from a farm pond

IME that is very seasonal... like a couple weeks in the spring at mid elevations in AZ. But they bite the crap out of me also. I don't think I've experienced then at lower or higher elevations.

Where I live now there are no mosquitoes ever, and it's a high mountain pine forest in S NM with plenty of summer rain. No biting bugs of any kind. No cockroaches or rattlesnakes either.

When I was camping full time in the west I didn't have trouble finding mosquito free areas, or nearly free of them.

 

[bullfrog !]

After living years in Arkansas, visiting Michigan during black fly season and being caught by a swarm of sand fleas on an island off the coast of Georgia the south west is wonderful even though every drop of rain has a bug in it, it doesn’t rain very often!

 

[rruff]

But waterless places aren't a solution for me.

Drill a well, catch water off the roof, have water hauled or haul it yourself.

Well water is pretty awful (hard, sulfurous) and deep to access many places, but not all. States (NM and AZ at least) keep an online data base of wells so you can check the depth and flowrates of the ones that have been drilled.

 

[LargeMarge]

What Satellites Can See..., a keyhole saw...

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AI-generated content issuing *!!! WARNINGS !!!* about AI-GENERATED content?
Oh, yeah, I am totally 'UP' for that...

 

[Gr8ful]

AI-generated content issuing *!!! WARNINGS !!!* about AI-GENERATED content?
Oh, yeah, I am totally 'UP' for that...

It may be but the technology is in use just look at Google Earth

 

[Happy Camper]

It may be but the technology is in use just look at Google Earth

The technology was in place 30 years ago

 

[rruff]

The technology was in place 30 years ago

Ya, they still gotta look through at least 120 miles of atmosphere, which greatly reduces their ability to see fine details, even with super expensive hi-res cameras.

If they don't have anything better to do than spy on me... then I hope they are amused.

 

[twomountainlions]

It's also not just the crowds but how nuts many people are now.
I normally don't camp in campgrounds but decided to stay in NFS camp last summer, because it was free, in very remote part of North Cal, little used and well dispersed huge sites, you dont have to see others from any of them. Really just dispersed camping by the creek wihere NFS put a couple of restrooms. There were 10-11 big spots.

Took a spot on the end of the camp, the most isolated one. Entire camp was empty, no one in any sites for the entire week. One day I came up from the creek below and found a pickup truck right in the middle of my site, 2 big dudes. No cell signal, I'm on my own. I was wearing camo and got a weapon on me. They jumped back into the truck and hauled arses pronto after seeing me come out of the woods looking mad and drove out of the area.

After that I blocked the site driveway and put up wildlife camera in the middle of it too.
Another day, RV trailer pulls by my site. Next, at least 2 off leash barking dogs of that nutjob run all over my site. Then the dude of boomer age, not a newbie, comes up right up to my rig in my isolated site. My windows were open, and I actually was changing clothes. He says, and not in a friendly/smiley way, but in a pissy entitled tone: aaaare you peeeeeople going to have this biiiiig site to youuuurself?
I just said: This is ONE camsite. Without exiting the rig to meet that nutcase and pulled the curtain.
He had mumbled something sarcastic and left, luckily, without confrontation. The nut case did not chose to stay in any other sites, I walked the entire area and al was empty. I guess it was his favorite spot and he hoped to either run me off or camp next to me like in his Sacto condo parking lot.
That's Kalifornia, the krazyland, but still this stuff is too much. I had some other incidents of people pulling right into my isolated sites. Sometimes they asked weirds questions like if I know some dude...wtf. They leave once they realize no one is up for chit chat and all locked and loaded. A dude camping in Montana just got hacked up with and axe by a stranger.
Looking forward to be in the cabin full time soon and start some farming.

 

[twomountainlions]

What can make someone pull into very isolated occupied site and ask: do you know "John Doe" or similar?? Never really figured that out. Seems like scoping the rig for robbery to me

 

[rruff]

^They were expecting to meet "John Doe" there...

My approach is always "wassup?" and be friendly, especially if they are acting scary... like have guns out and pointed in my direction. Never had any problems. Aholes generally get confused if you treat them like a friend and aren't afraid.

 

[rruff]

Looking forward to be in the cabin full time soon and start some farming.

What's it like there?