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blueberry

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I have a lead acid battery in my van but the fumes are becoming a problem (headaches, etc.) and I want to get a sealed AGM battery as soon as I can afford one. Any suggestions on the best kind to get? I need it to power my laptop, ipod, hotspot and cell phone, as well as a blender for my breakfast smoothies. I have a 100w solar panel and plan to add more in the future, if needed.
 
Optima used to be the smart way to go. Then they were bought out by a new owner, who moved the production to Mexico and re-engineered them to make them cheaper to produce. Now they're crap.

Lifeline batteries are probably the best AGM batteries being currently manufactured. They are pricey. I've read that our military uses them.

I've heard good things about Sears Diehard Platinum AGM batteries. If, God forbid, you have a problem with one, you can get them waranteed at any Sears you happen to be near.

Regards
John
 
if you are having that much off gassing from vented batteries, you should have your charging systems checked.
 
@Blueberry...I have similar problems with chemicals. I bought a cheap brand of AGM's, made in Taiwan, but they are good and heavy (means lots of lead and strong.) So far I'm happy with them, they were cheap for my marketplace with a one year exchange warranty. As for your blender...I used to have one that was a single size and had a 4AA battery option that I used for years...most conventional blenders will suck up 1000 - 1500 watts and even in a few minutes that is a lot of power burn with your current solar gain. No matter how big your batteries are they need charging and at 100w you will only keep about 100aH of battery happening in good weather about half of which is useable.

A question - Without refrigeration how do you keep ingredients for smoothies viable? Or do you use a dry mix and if so which one if you don't mind sharing...I'm always gleaning for info... I live on smoothies practically and really only have my fridge for fresh ingredients.
 
I'm using "Full River" AGM Golf cart batteries. They have an excellent warranty and have been great for 2 years now. Several dealers here in Quartzsite sell them. But AGM golf carts are VERY expensive. $250 each. Discount Solar sells another brand name which are 12 volt so you would only have to buy one for about $230 so you will spend half as much but it should be all you need. It's a good battery and you will probably be back here every year if you need warranty work. If you want to go and look let me know and I'll drive in with you.

Optimas are way overpriced for what you get, I don't recommend them.
Bob
 
Optima's, besides their recent quality reports, were never a great choice for a deep cycle battery as their capacity is 25 to 33% less due to the spiral cell design. CCA is not capacity.

Odyssey/ Sears Die Hard platinum are excellent AGM batteries, but when cycled deeply, they want to be fed a 40% charging rate until 14.7v is reached, and then hold 14.7 for 4 hours before reverting to float at 13.7.

So the group 31 Odyssey want 40 amps initial bulk current minimum, when cycled deeply to perform properly on the next cycle at full capacity/energy density. Not good for a primarily solar recharged system.

Other AGM batteries do not require such huge recharging currents, full river wants 20%. Lifeline says feed them as much as you possibly can at no more than 14.5v, and this could be 400 amps on a 100 amp hour battery, or more.

Many Asian AGM batteries say not to exceed 20% charge rate, probably more suitable for those who use solar as the main charging source, and whose alternator charging circuit is not seriously upgraded.

Sears die hard gold AGM is a rebadged deka intimidator series that says no more than 14.5 and no more than 20% and these are kinder to one's budget. My alternator will do 14.9v though, so I ruled these out.

While seeking a perfect charging regimen for any battery is hardly manditory, with AGM's and their greater investment, one should make more effort to meet the manufacturer recommendations as to charging amps and voltages to get the most out of their investment.

Also one should check the maximum voltages their alternator will feed the battery. If it exceeds the manufacturer recommendations, then find an AGM battery which can handle your system's maximum voltage, or meet the minimum acceptance voltage.

But you can also just slap any AGM in there and then it just hurts a little more when it fails earlier than it would if it were fed the manufacturer recommended recharge regimen.
 
Why not get a battery box with a sealing lid and vent your present battery to the outside?
 
Thanks everyone. Bob, I will take you up on your offer to go to Discount Solar with you. I should have the money in a day or two.
 
I believe, without proof, that these batteries are "Universal" brand batteries with a fancy sticker.

Asian AGM.

Many people report good usage from them
 
That isn't a great price, just average and they don't list a warranty period, unless I missed it.

I would suggest buying a name brand from a reputable dealer with a known and stated warranty. In three years if it fails who's going to make it right? probably no one on this battery and if they do you will pay shipping both ways.

If it was a tremendous price it might be worth the risk but I can buy one locally here for less and I know for certain the dealer will be here in 5 years to back up the warrranty. Granted, I am in Arizona where solar dealers are everywhere, but no matter where you are there is a battery dealer who handles high-end agm deep cycles for about that same price who will back-it up. Go with them!!
Bob
 
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